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190. "This law doesn’t protect gun owners; it protects gun manufacturers, distributors, dealers, and

Mon Jun 15, 2015, 01:52 AM

Jun 2015

importers." As it should be!

Should Ford, Chevrolet, Dodge, Honda, Toyota, BMW, Jaguar, Volvo, etc., etc., be held liable for every person killed in an automobile accident?? How about just the ones who decide to use their vehicle as a weapon to deliberately run someone over, or crash through their house??

Don't even try the "but guns are made for one purpose only... TO KILL!!!" line on me either. I know people who own guns that have never shot at anything but skeet, paper targets or cans/bottles. PEOPLE decide to use them to kill other people with, just like they decide to use vehicles, ball bats, hammers, knives, fire, poison and even their bare hands. Should the manufacturers, distributors, dealers, and importers of all of those products be held liable?? If not, why not?? Can you sue GOD for making hands??

I don't have an issue with this, and I consider myself about as far to the left as you can get! I'm a gun owner myself, and I supported Dennis Kucinich, even though he was "anti handgun". I am definitely NOT a "one issue voter".

Peace,

Ghost

On edit: Sorry, sheshe2... I usually don't look at the author of an OP, just read the headline and click if I want to read it. I changed the word "bullshit" to "line", as I respect you and we agree on many things. I will just have to politely disagree with you on this issue.

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Bernie Sanders Voted for the Most Reprehensible Pro-Gun Legislation in Recent Memory [View all] sheshe2 Jun 2015 OP

I really hate hearing this. I know a Senator must cater to their constituents but....... leftofcool Jun 2015 #1

The NRA gives Bernie an F rating: beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #5

The NRA put $18,000 into defeating Peter Smith, Bernie's opponent. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #41

But he did vote for gun control MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #2

Hillary was hoodwinked by Dubya's cunning wiles, faced with a smooth talker like that who wouldn't? Fumesucker Jun 2015 #10

Yer bad! L0oniX Jun 2015 #34

Either she's modern history's biggest dupe -- right up there with George Romney in the KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #238

lol! Nah, she was DLC. They pushed for war. Lots of quick, easy money for war profiteers, banksters, Zorra Jun 2015 #261

Very lame treestar Jun 2015 #252

hmmm? wildbilln864 Jun 2015 #368

I wonder which vote resulted in the largest body count. Bernie's gun vote or: NewSystemNeeded Jun 2015 #3

That should headline every Sanders spot heading into Iowa and New Hampshire. If the KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #241

You know this is a dupe because you posted in the original thread: beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #4

They get paid per post? NightWatcher Jun 2015 #36

And he's white! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #62

Lousy optics! WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2015 #88

Optics! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #96

I hear he doesn't care about immigrants, either. WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2015 #132

And they completely ignored his record. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #135

"The Bernie supporters tell me he attended a rally 50 years ago for MLK." WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2015 #150

I'm surprised smartypants hasn't questioned his loyalty yet. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #154

Give 'er time. WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2015 #161

Using poc as human shields so she can slander a Dem candidate. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #166

Oh, I heard the equivalent on here not long ago after I posted about Sanders having marched cui bono Jun 2015 #204

You know it, I know it, and they know it. WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2015 #205

Bernie can't afford better optics, he's only a thousandaire. SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #139

Well, it's certainly not going to custom-tailored suits and $600 haircuts! WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2015 #172

And has scary white hair, oh my! n/t Oilwellian Jun 2015 #258

"They get paid per post?" That's what you say when you have nothing to offer but ignorance. Cha Jun 2015 #226

If DU ever folds, I hope the site owners give us ample notice... WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2015 #306

Well, you know... her other OP about Bernie went over so well... cui bono Jun 2015 #178

She was so proud of that op too. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #182

To wish that... cui bono Jun 2015 #186

And now she's blaming Bernie for the dead children at Sandy Hook. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #187

Despicable. cui bono Jun 2015 #202

I agree. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #203

... SixString Jun 2015 #270

And now the alerter is on a 24 hour time out from making any more alerts. GGJohn Jun 2015 #273

+1 cui bono Jun 2015 #280

Can you share that thread please? brer cat Jun 2015 #257

Just look through the HC group. You'll find an OP about jury block lists for sure. cui bono Jun 2015 #275

Jury block lists have nothing to do brer cat Jun 2015 #292

Yeah, you do that. cui bono Jun 2015 #296

I didn't say I thought you were lying. brer cat Jun 2015 #297

Plotting? okasha Jun 2015 #339

Attempts at ridicule don't make you correct. cui bono Jun 2015 #345

There's a thread in there now calling Sanders supporters a "mob" and "dangerous and unbalanced". beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #346

omg... see? Hypocrisy at it's best. cui bono Jun 2015 #348

No, I agree, they should be called out for that kind of behaviour. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #350

Care to quote and link to what you just said? William769 Jun 2015 #351

I'm just glad I don't see that sort of thing in the Bernie Sanders group. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #352

Oh so now you are admitting what you just said was disingenuous. William769 Jun 2015 #353

Nope. The honourable thing to do is not post shitty threads like that to begin with. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #354

Well I guess you just gave everybody your answer. William769 Jun 2015 #355

Yes, I was defninitely talking about my threads. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #356

There's no reference at all to Sanders or his supporters in that OP. okasha Jun 2015 #358

I didn't alert on anything in there, okasha. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #359

& 7 jurors didn't. Yes that right, all 7. William769 Jun 2015 #360

Like I said, I'm just glad I don't have to read stuff like that in the Sanders group. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #362

Oh really now? William769 Jun 2015 #363

Maybe because classy people realize when they're being offensive and self delete? beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #365

self deleted after they were told it was sent to a jury. William769 Jun 2015 #366

Also because the host said that they didn't want threads like that in the group. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #367

Only one small problem with your theory, no Hosts posted in the thread. William769 Jun 2015 #369

What are you talking about? A host posted #3. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #370

No one said you did. okasha Jun 2015 #371

No, but truth does. okasha Jun 2015 #349

I won't forget. 840high Jun 2015 #303

A desperate cry for attention? NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #232

Could be. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #233

I think we know why n/t arcane1 Jun 2015 #283

Breaking; desperate clinton supporters desperately post the same article cali Jun 2015 #6

Bernie supporters would never ever ever do that!!! sheshe2 Jun 2015 #12

Didn't you post this disgusting hit piece?: beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #24

^^^this^^^ Nailed it! L0oniX Jun 2015 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jun 2015 #60

I will forever associate sheshe with that thread. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #66

Yep, that thread was a real eye opener, and not in a good way. eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #71

and she said it again marym625 Jun 2015 #80

Not as clever as she thought, nice catch guys! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #87

Not sure why I am here marym625 Jun 2015 #94

I had just read her posts in the other thread when I noticed this dupe. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #103

completely agree. marym625 Jun 2015 #118

wow sheshe2 Jun 2015 #109

Sorry sheshe marym625 Jun 2015 #130

They see you! sheshe2 Jun 2015 #133

What? marym625 Jun 2015 #136

Figure it out. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #138

I really hope that you can get rid of all your anger marym625 Jun 2015 #143

Lol. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #148

They see you Lancero Jun 2015 #196

"We surround them." WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2015 #201

"Hypocrisy is the tribute vice pays to virtue." - La Rochefoucauld - nt KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #245

Some people "see" you too, sheshe: beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #179

sheshe you shouldn't even ever talk about Bernie ever after that vile OP of yours. cui bono Jun 2015 #184

She actually said the children of Sandy Hook died because of Bernie: beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #185

The point was not "plotting" BainsBane Jun 2015 #316

I'm not a big fan of the jury rigging theory davidpdx Jun 2015 #317

^^^ THIS ^^^ beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #319

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #324

There may indeed be bad behavior on both sides BainsBane Jun 2015 #325

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #326

"If you should decide you care what some people of color think about these discussions" beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #341

Excellent post. This is spot on! leftofcool Jun 2015 #322

Links? cui bono Jun 2015 #336

I'm not the one targeting, I'm merely calling out bs when I see it. cui bono Jun 2015 #331

Still pissed off about being blocked from the HillaryGroup okasha Jun 2015 #340

Nope, not at all. I just call out bs when I see it. cui bono Jun 2015 #343

Bernie's supporters are "dangerous and unbalanced" according to one thread. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #347

You're funny. okasha Jun 2015 #357

I don't understand one thing you wrote here, but okie dokie. leftofcool Jun 2015 #321

I'm not surprised you don't understand. cui bono Jun 2015 #344

He attended a rally fifty years ago, so you heard? AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #188

If the only reason you know that Bernie has been fighting for PoC for DECADES cui bono Jun 2015 #206

What a loathsome, exploitative post you made here Scootaloo Jun 2015 #308

Past FreeRepublic Scootaloo Jun 2015 #101

To their credit other Hillary supporters were all over her for that. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #104

Hell, further down thread, GGJohn Jun 2015 #110

Classy as always. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #115

Blatant hypocrisy on display. eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #119

You forgot the infamous OP attempting to link Sanders with a racist pic. cui bono Jun 2015 #191

That was the one I meant, associating him with racist cops and slavery. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #193

It's easy to do, there's so much of it being posted on here. cui bono Jun 2015 #194

They already alerted on one of my posts linking to that thread. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #199

She's one of a few posters who I sincerely believe to be automated Scootaloo Jun 2015 #111

Learn? She revels in it. WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2015 #134

Wow. Mocking people in need. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #147

Yep, yet another truly ugly OP. (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2015 #168

That OP was so vile, lowering the bar to FREEP is being kind Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #236

I was alerted on for referring to it as "associating him with racism". beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #237

"War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength." Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #239

Nicely done. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #240

That is some serious fucking slime and reflects so well on the person who KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #242

And she's complaining about hit pieces on Hillary downthread. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #244

Daaaaaang. Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #301

What?? SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #328

Yep, that was one of the worst hit pieces I've ever seen. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #342

i can't speak for others, but i post about Clinton in relation to issue i cali Jun 2015 #25

This is disgusting. 840high Jun 2015 #304

You may be very effective treestar Jun 2015 #254

Maybe you can explain why firearms manufacturers GGJohn Jun 2015 #7

We have held tobacco companies responsible for lung cancer leftofcool Jun 2015 #13

Boom! sheshe2 Jun 2015 #26

Your Boom! turned out to be a dud. eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #54

Tobacco companies lied about the dangers of their product, GGJohn Jun 2015 #28

Like Ford, gun manufacturers are held liable for defective products. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #33

Seems certain posters 'forgot' about the Remington 700 friendly_iconoclast Jun 2015 #50

This was all explained in the first thread, they're being deliberately obtuse. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #58

It works a treat on those unfamiliar with consumer law and/or guns... friendly_iconoclast Jun 2015 #76

Have we held the banking/finance industry responsible for 2008? NewSystemNeeded Jun 2015 #38

These are very different situations Scootaloo Jun 2015 #48

You've ruined a perfectly good appeal to emotion with some inconvenient truth friendly_iconoclast Jun 2015 #55

Great points, but logic has nothing to do with this re-post. merrily Jun 2015 #77

People drink drain cleaners? Jumpin Jack Flash Jun 2015 #83

And htye are clearly labeled so, with warnings to not ingest them Scootaloo Jun 2015 #98

They were sued for hiding the science behind the dangers. Paka Jun 2015 #128

The Pinto was a defective model. They are not held responsible for all deaths caused cui bono Jun 2015 #189

And in relation to other cars made at the same time the Pinto fell in the upper third. GoneOffShore Jun 2015 #264

No, we didn't SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2015 #282

Gungeoneer fail, as usual. onehandle Jun 2015 #20

And that pertains to the PLCAA in what way? eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #30

Because GUNS, that's why. Inquire further and you'll be insulted again: friendly_iconoclast Jun 2015 #42

What's the purpose of a trumped up war? merrily Jun 2015 #120

What's wrong with using a gun for self defense? Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #160

No because a car's sole purpose isn't to harm or kill, while that is the only purpose of a gun. Fla Dem Jun 2015 #271

What fucking difference does that make? GGJohn Jun 2015 #274

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jun 2015 #8

He's not running as the President of Vermont leftofcool Jun 2015 #21

He didn't have anything to do with Sandy Hook and he doesnt pipoman Jun 2015 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jun 2015 #47

Then Hillary should answer to the families of our military men and women who died in Iraq Autumn Jun 2015 #81

And all the Iraqis too! cui bono Jun 2015 #207

Re-read Nick's assessment of Tom and Daisy Buchanan and then you'll KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #246

Disgusting! TM99 Jun 2015 #105

Blaming Bernie for Sandy Hook? beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #107

Not everything is about Bernie. It is about children! leftofcool Jun 2015 #223

What children? What does the PLCAA have to do with Sandy Hook? beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #224

Amazing. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #162

Wow are you really linking Bernie Sanders to Sandy Hook? aikoaiko Jun 2015 #256

Bullshit. X_Digger Jun 2015 #305

vermonter here. vermont is so far from being libertarian. cali Jun 2015 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jun 2015 #37

I grew up on one of the Champlain Islands. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #64

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jun 2015 #79

Cool! I dated a guy from Richmond. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #90

Northeast Kingdom in.the Hardwick Greensboro area cali Jun 2015 #99

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jun 2015 #116

Voting on the side of the gun manufacturers and dealers is not voting for his constituents, it would Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #9

Explain how the PLCAA prevents someone from suing the manufacturers GGJohn Jun 2015 #14

Why are you making shit up? The PLCAA exempts lawsuits for defective products. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #17

It does no such thing... pipoman Jun 2015 #22

This is not true. aikoaiko Jun 2015 #78

I can admit I am wrong but Bernie's vote was wrong. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #149

What kind of moron calls Sanders a "gun nut"? beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #11

The guns were legally manufacturered and did not malfunction. Wilms Jun 2015 #15

Nice desperation OP. Over 50% of DU members own a gun according to the last DU poll on the subject. L0oniX Jun 2015 #16

+1000 nt Mojorabbit Jun 2015 #23

It only makes me like him more Autumn Jun 2015 #18

He was correct to support the PLCAA: manufacturers (of any product) should not he held petronius Jun 2015 #19

I guess the tobacco companies should have had Bernie in their corner. leftofcool Jun 2015 #29

Tobacco flat lied about the effects and dangers of their products. eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #35

I guess the Military Industrial Complex already has Hillary in theirs... Indepatriot Jun 2015 #44

Oh Feel the Bern! on that. Autumn Jun 2015 #49

BOOM! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #52

Mahalo! think4yourself Jun 2015 #124

LOL WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2015 #153

Ouch beevul Jun 2015 #284

Gun control is a loser issue. PeteSelman Jun 2015 #32

You are 100% correct, It is a lost cause it this point! Nt Logical Jun 2015 #39

Yep, I really don't think splitting the party pipoman Jun 2015 #51

Agree 100% and Howerd Dean understood this perfectly. With a name like Quixote you would think I Quixote1818 Jun 2015 #221

I agree with his vote on PLCAA. tammywammy Jun 2015 #43

The NRA rates Bernie Sanders F. Besides, merrily Jun 2015 #45

This again? It was a fine vote. aikoaiko Jun 2015 #46

K'n'R ucrdem Jun 2015 #53

Lol~ sheshe2 Jun 2015 #97

You are misinformed. SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #56

Lol~ sheshe2 Jun 2015 #59

LOL all you want, GGJohn Jun 2015 #61

Nice flattering pic of Bernie you posted. SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #67

Oh, she wants to play, trust me. WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2015 #156

Thanks. Rough intro. SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #159

You'll do fine. WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2015 #173

It was the picture in the article. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #175

Go on sheshe2, give us some substance Scootaloo Jun 2015 #219

Tough to win in Vermont if you vote for the Brady Bill. Sometimes pragmatism is needed (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #57

So, let me see if I understand you. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #86

What utterly shameless bullshit. GGJohn Jun 2015 #102

The poster said. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #123

You responded with an utterly blatant lie about Bernie. GGJohn Jun 2015 #126

Please respond. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #152

You claimed that Bernie's vote was responsible for the dead children of Sandy Hook, GGJohn Jun 2015 #155

Actually, no read it again. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #176

Nope, lied again. You actually said: "Sandy Hook Children died because of his vote." beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #183

That one does this all the time. Marr Jun 2015 #249

Totally. Reminds me of Glenn Beck. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #320

Yes, you lied then and now you are lying again about your other lie. cui bono Jun 2015 #215

No kidding. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #222

I would like to suggest some reading material for her break Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #230

YOU SAID THIS, GGJohn Jun 2015 #330

Perhaps you don't understand what representative govt is. cui bono Jun 2015 #214

What lie? sheshe2 Jun 2015 #218

This one: "SANDY HOOK CHILDREN DIED BECAUSE OF HIS VOTE" beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #220

"Sandy Hook Children died because of his vote." NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #243

Maybe I'm remembering it wrong, but the guy who killed those children didn't buy a gun. ladyVet Jun 2015 #315

You are correct, he murdered his mother, stole 3 of her legally purchased firearms GGJohn Jun 2015 #364

Oh well, gun nuts have their candidate. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #63

Ok, so explain why it's proper GGJohn Jun 2015 #65

Gun manufacturers have a responsibility to make sure their products stay out of criminal hands. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #69

Firearms manufacturers are by federal law, forbidden to sell directly to the public, GGJohn Jun 2015 #74

You seem to be confused. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #82

Those lawsuits were about the gun control org., particularly the Brady org., GGJohn Jun 2015 #89

It's the ATF's job to supervise the dealers, not the manufacturers' friendly_iconoclast Jun 2015 #91

Fortunately, you guys have thoroughly kneecapped them, too. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #95

That was a self-inflicted injury. Got "Gunwalking"? friendly_iconoclast Jun 2015 #100

So the answer to a regulatory agency fucking up.... NuclearDem Jun 2015 #113

That's the second strawman you've attempted to use against me. friendly_iconoclast Jun 2015 #181

Had nothing to do with us, it was a self induced kneecapping through the program, GGJohn Jun 2015 #106

Should this apply to baseball bat manufacturers as well? SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #84

Let me know when you can play baseball with a S&W. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #92

The failure is calling Sanders a gun nut, that's absurd. SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #108

I didn't call Sanders a gun nut. I don't believe Sanders is a gun nut. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #112

Dead is dead. Should cutlery and cookware manufacturers be held as responsible? friendly_iconoclast Jun 2015 #127

Baseball bats, pots, and knives aren't uniquely designed as weapons. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #140

Posession of cookware and sporting goods isn't Constitutionally protected friendly_iconoclast Jun 2015 #158

Speech invoking imminent lawless action isn't protected by the Constitution. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #167

Um, no- it's you trying to plant the "let violent criminals have guns" flag on *me* friendly_iconoclast Jun 2015 #170

And all those things are punished *after the fact* friendly_iconoclast Jun 2015 #171

Uh, speech inciting imminent lawless action is illegal before the person even opens their mouth. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #174

We don't try to restrain what people say beforehand, or tape their mouths shut. friendly_iconoclast Jun 2015 #177

Uh, we put laws against inciting riots and libel on the books. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #235

wrong, check it out discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2015 #288

"All of these are perfectly acceptable compromises between the Bill of Rights ..." beevul Jun 2015 #291

So what? beevul Jun 2015 #285

Insecticide is a poison, first and foremost designed to kill. jeff47 Jun 2015 #209

Yes, you're right, I forgot how when used for target practice NuclearDem Jun 2015 #234

If "destructive" is your new criteria, you're gonna have to add a lot more activities. jeff47 Jun 2015 #265

Are trucks uniquely designed to crush other vehicles? NuclearDem Jun 2015 #266

Some are. Monster trucks, for example. jeff47 Jun 2015 #267

"So the gun jams if you point it at a deer?" NuclearDem Jun 2015 #276

You're the one claiming they can only be used to kill humans. jeff47 Jun 2015 #279

I take it all these Remington 700 lawsuits didn't happen in your world? friendly_iconoclast Jun 2015 #75

People are in fact reading the same post I wrote, right? NuclearDem Jun 2015 #85

And they are here to divide us. onehandle Jun 2015 #129

Exactly. nt SunSeeker Jun 2015 #197

You fell for that? GGJohn Jun 2015 #268

Wrong. It's gun nuts who talk about gubmint conspiracies. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #281

I'll give you this, GGJohn Jun 2015 #295

And tasty, as well: friendly_iconoclast Jun 2015 #298

LOL, perfect description. eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #300

Wow, you figured it out. GGJohn Jun 2015 #251

Got any evidence for this "vast, right-wing conspiracy"? friendly_iconoclast Jun 2015 #262

Hel-lo, we're waiting here... friendly_iconoclast Jun 2015 #299

The Amtrak bill was a good one and I'm glad he supported it. Recursion Jun 2015 #68

It's not so much that some post deceitful hit pieces like this, it's that the same posters Marr Jun 2015 #70

Homo Sapiens Hypocritus. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #72

What is deceitful about his voting record? treestar Jun 2015 #255

I see you got no answers. leftofcool Jun 2015 #323

Same crew posting the same shit. Then complain when it gets handed back to them. Katashi_itto Jun 2015 #73

Of course it is the same crew. TM99 Jun 2015 #121

Agree! Katashi_itto Jun 2015 #125

Yeah! And what about the optics?!! n/t RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #93

And remind me again why dealers and manufacturers should be sued. Paka Jun 2015 #114

While I find this disappointing.... Takket Jun 2015 #117

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jun 2015 #122

You don't say. Kalidurga Jun 2015 #131

Not every DUer is super pro gun control Omaha Steve Jun 2015 #137

Sen Sanders is not just running in the Dem Primary on DU, either. These are facts that the OP is Cha Jun 2015 #225

Thank you Omaha Steve Jun 2015 #277

Thanks for posting this. i strongly support gun control hrmjustin Jun 2015 #141

But Sanders DOES support gun control. TM99 Jun 2015 #142

Yet he has voted against it. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #144

Yes, look at his record. TM99 Jun 2015 #157

Boom! sheshe2 Jun 2015 #163

It's mixed. jeff47 Jun 2015 #211

Why? beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #151

You will never get an honest answer to that question. beevul Jun 2015 #286

Enough people. Just really enough. ScreamingMeemie Jun 2015 #145

They like their guns in Vermont. Emily Grierson Jun 2015 #146

Interesting how many poster who posted in this thread have no problem dishing out criticism of hrmjustin Jun 2015 #164

"legit criticism"? The op called Sanders a "gun nut" and lied about the PLCAA legislation. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #169

"Legit criticism." beevul Jun 2015 #289

Are we getting this low so soon? Well if that's all you got, go for it. rhett o rick Jun 2015 #165

Hey Rhett. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #192

You're complaining about hit pieces on Hillary in one you posted about Sanders? beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #195

Last sheshe2 Jun 2015 #208

Hit pieces like, "Why did none of these deeply held core beliefs show up in 2008" jeff47 Jun 2015 #210

Hey Jeff. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #212

Were you comatose in 2008? jeff47 Jun 2015 #213

As pointed out, he is still rated F by the NRA mvd Jun 2015 #180

"This law doesn’t protect gun owners; it protects gun manufacturers, distributors, dealers, and Ghost in the Machine Jun 2015 #190

oh drat. ucrdem Jun 2015 #198

Let's see, the Iraq AUMF passed on Oct 2, 2002. At 3 OPs per day on average ucrdem Jun 2015 #200

Only posters who are Loco keep count so there's the answer to your 'who's counting eh? Autumn Jun 2015 #259

Don't mind me. romanic Jun 2015 #216

hmm CTBlueboy Jun 2015 #217

Tsk, she! Isn't GD suppose to be all positive Sen Sanders and negative Hillary all the time!? Cha Jun 2015 #227

Hey Cha~ sheshe2 Jun 2015 #290

Your underwear is showing. Scuba Jun 2015 #228

This is the 5th time this 5 week old "Gun Nut" hit piece has been posted on DU. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #229

Reminds me of when Howard Dean ran in 2004 JonLP24 Jun 2015 #253

Yes, that's exactly what they're doing. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #294

No, "your underwear is showing". Cha Jun 2015 #302

Good for Bernie! NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #231

This topic seems to drive the Hillary-bashers completely insane. DanTex Jun 2015 #247

Because Hill Bashers mostly claimed their candidate could throw stones... uponit7771 Jun 2015 #334

Arms trafficking should be included in gun control ratings JonLP24 Jun 2015 #248

I agree wholeheartedly with this statement from your OP. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #250

Actually, Bernie is to the left on HRC on gun control, too. aikoaiko Jun 2015 #272

Remember when Obama called her 'Annie Oakley' for pandering to gun owners? beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #293

This is the story that turned me from a Hillary supporter. ileus Jun 2015 #260

Well, I see this OP went over like a lead balloon AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #263

As anyone who wishes to accurately represent Vermont should have whatthehey Jun 2015 #269

Kick and highly recommended! nt William769 Jun 2015 #278

This message was self-deleted by its author whatchamacallit Jun 2015 #287

He has an F from the NRA Report1212 Jun 2015 #307

So how'd this OP work out for you, Sheshe2? Scootaloo Jun 2015 #309

She's vying for the lowest view/rec ratio. Bonobo Jun 2015 #310

Oh, just wait for her to rev up the ol' antisemitism engines. Scootaloo Jun 2015 #311

That requires a certain finesse. nt Bonobo Jun 2015 #312

This coming from someone who started a thread about Hillary's laugh. R B Garr Jun 2015 #337

Actually, it worked out great, Scoot. Thanks. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #313

If your goal is to make yourself look ridiculous, I agree, this thread worked out well for you Scootaloo Jun 2015 #314

Now she's speaking against Sanders for Gabby Giffords. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #318

FYI Sissyk Jun 2015 #338

+1, none of these candidates can throw a stone no matter how much we'd like them.... uponit7771 Jun 2015 #335

Helped me establish the fact that NONE of the dem candidates can throw stones... uponit7771 Jun 2015 #333

No, he didn't. Orsino Jun 2015 #327

And HRC voted for the most reprehensible war in recent memory. hobbit709 Jun 2015 #329

The economy is the most important issue to me. lovemydog Jun 2015 #332

. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #361