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82. So now there are import minimums in the TPP?

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"Why has President Obama been willing to spend so much political capital on the TPP??" [View all] kentuck Jun 2015 OP

Because he won't be running for a third term ann--- Jun 2015 #1

Future speaking fees will be higher depending on who he will be speaking to. L0oniX Jun 2015 #2

He might be disappointed if he's going for a target audience of Cleita Jun 2015 #5

All the more reason to make them happy with corporate trade deals. L0oniX Jun 2015 #7

Then he'll really be disappointed. Cleita Jun 2015 #10

And many probably see him as a tool to achieve their goals. Most super wealthy are interested in RKP5637 Jun 2015 #52

Public financed campaigns as Bernie is advocating will take the corruption out of the system, Cleita Jun 2015 #54

Exactly what we need! We call ourselves a democracy and then let people buy elections. How inane. RKP5637 Jun 2015 #66

no, I don't think so. And many, many of the richest and most influential cali Jun 2015 #11

In the South, it's still a concern. Look at Congress at how he's been Cleita Jun 2015 #12

Blaming The South is easy, and habitual. bvar22 Jun 2015 #35

Not the discussion. The Congressmen and Governors that are the worst enemies of Obama Cleita Jun 2015 #40

Quick...Turn Away , Turn Away from the lying map. bvar22 Jun 2015 #63

All the more reason to have sulphurdunn Jun 2015 #36

I know people who are more politically savvy than me and who are Obama Cleita Jun 2015 #3

But as I have said before: Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #9

he wants to do like bill elehhhhna Jun 2015 #4

I hope that is not true...? kentuck Jun 2015 #18

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Phlem Jun 2015 #48

. Baitball Blogger Jun 2015 #6

It could be that he can afford to take the heat drray23 Jun 2015 #8

Point is, Hillary or Obama, the Rubin club is in charge. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #22

Right on! I don't give two cents for Hillary's poll numbers or her "inevitability!" Dustlawyer Jun 2015 #28

THIS! +1000 Kip Humphrey Jun 2015 #31

But I'm sick of Warren's self service. She earned tankloads of dough as a Corporate consultant Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #41

She is an outsider because she is opposing the interests of the corporate insiders JDPriestly Jun 2015 #62

Firmly on Bernie's side! And by the way, brilliant post! K&R PatrickforO Jun 2015 #43

Exceptionally well said! We need to get away from the SOS! I would like to see Bernie as president! RKP5637 Jun 2015 #53

I am so grateful to Bernie for stepping azmom Jun 2015 #59

One thing dpatbrown Jun 2015 #64

+1 cui bono Jun 2015 #70

As usual Robert Reich has a good understanding that a lot of us do not have. He knows the workings jwirr Jun 2015 #13

So nailed it. Wellstone ruled Jun 2015 #37

Bluntly, the payoff must be substantial Puzzledtraveller Jun 2015 #14

and THIS: Triana Jun 2015 #15

Froman only became USTR two years ago shawn703 Jun 2015 #16

I think Obama has some, "wink, wink" future investments that will skyrocket if TPP... StarzGuy Jun 2015 #17

You didn't seem to answer your own question. Are you saying that President Obama politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2015 #19

12-dimensional chess... kentuck Jun 2015 #34

From your post #19 bvar22 Jun 2015 #42

Duh!!! I said that i DIDN'T BELIEVE that the would sell out the working class. politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2015 #60

I don't see the Obamas as money-hungry sellouts either. calimary Jun 2015 #47

I respectfully disagree. Phlem Jun 2015 #50

Yea, here's what that 'sellout' says he'd be interested in doing... babylonsister Jun 2015 #84

3 possibilities: 1) He's clueless; 2) He's corrupt; 3) He believes TPP is a good policy. pampango Jun 2015 #83

Obama WILL get the blame, bvar22 Jun 2015 #89

A statement that cannot be repeated often enough BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #20

My personal opinion is that he sees it as necessary. The Chinese are literally taking OregonBlue Jun 2015 #21

China is expected to drag the world's economy away from America. But that's no excuse.... AZ Progressive Jun 2015 #26

Gee. bvar22 Jun 2015 #65

Exactly. China. A country that will never, ever sign a free trade agreement with us Recursion Jun 2015 #74

Yeah, that horse has already escaped from the barn Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #76

You're the one pushing for all of our trade to be like our trade with China Recursion Jun 2015 #80

What the hell are you talking about? Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #81

So now there are import minimums in the TPP? Recursion Jun 2015 #82

I think you just nailed it. leftofcool Jun 2015 #29

I think you are right. I am still very uncertain of this whole deal SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #30

Welcome to DU, SaranchaIsWaiting! calimary Jun 2015 #85

Thanks for the welcome and reply, calimary. SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #87

Hi Sarancha. Yes, I agree too. I don't believe the Obamas are greedy insiders. I don't OregonBlue Jun 2015 #88

Exactly. At the same time, the opposition shows the failure of our education system. We are in Hoyt Jun 2015 #33

How does giving more power to corporations "lift people up all over the world?" Maedhros Jun 2015 #55

TPP takes power away from corporations. Trade without an agreement gives you Bangladesh Recursion Jun 2015 #75

What utter, sheer nonsense Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #79

Have you seen the Chinese-built port in Colombo? Recursion Jun 2015 #73

My opinion, too, OregonBlue. What I've seen and learned about Barack Obama is that calimary Jun 2015 #86

Yes. Obama and Clinton are playing the long game. I believe that they genuinely love people and not OregonBlue Jun 2015 #91

Either you forgot the sarcasm smilie or you really believe that the giant corporations, Wall Street, Elwood P Dowd Jun 2015 #92

I didn't forget the sarcasm. I believe that Obama believes that good trade agreements will OregonBlue Jun 2015 #93

Agreed, OregonBlue Hekate Jun 2015 #90

one macroeconomic explanation I heard yesterday was that a financialized MisterP Jun 2015 #23

So it's the people of America vs Michael Froman? AZ Progressive Jun 2015 #24

Another explanation I've seen: Obama is motivated by the protections for intellectual property Jim Lane Jun 2015 #25

Why? Because he believes his stated reasons. nt Hekate Jun 2015 #27

He doesn't want to be "dead broke" when he leaves the white house? tularetom Jun 2015 #32

Lots of people here without the first clue of what Obama is all about BeyondGeography Jun 2015 #38

If Obama sees the TPP (and final destruction of our Working Class) as his "legacy", bvar22 Jun 2015 #45

People will debate that for years BeyondGeography Jun 2015 #49

There is no good reason, no upside for Obama's promotion of the TPP. ananda Jun 2015 #39

I just chalk it to he is doing as he believes, what has he done since becoming President TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #44

OR, to put it in simplier terms, bvar22 Jun 2015 #46

Yup, yup TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #57

Don't forget "moderate '80s Republican"-- Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #77

Because he will be getting a huge contribution towards Library if he pulls this off INdemo Jun 2015 #51

The beauty is right in the middle of the OP. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2015 #56

Let's ask him: ucrdem Jun 2015 #58

"will help level playing field for U.S. workers/businesses by ensuring trade partners play by rules" Beartracks Jun 2015 #68

Businesses definitely prefer Bangladesh and China to countries with free trade agreements Recursion Jun 2015 #72

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #61

here is why! TimeToEvolve Jun 2015 #67

First, he has no "political capital". that should be obvious by the TPP disaster. The only way he Doctor_J Jun 2015 #69

Because he knows the job losses happen with or without the TPP Recursion Jun 2015 #71

Exactly. Comprehensive trade reform is not identical to free trade ucrdem Jun 2015 #78