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Scootaloo

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6. And US foreign policy is usually reprehensible and ethically void.
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 05:18 AM
Jun 2015

So we come to a question, when we look at the people who are tasked with promoting policy that is openly destructive to vast swathes of the world.

is there a breaking point? a moment where the person in that position has to make a decision between being an ethical, decent person... and "doing the job"? Very likely. How many Secretaries of State have favored ethics and tendered their resignation when policy demand they promote something ethically repugnant?

To my knowledge, none. There is a deep level of sociopathy that seems necessary to hold the position. Where you can facilitate the giving of US weapons and "experts" to a bloody despot who then uses them to crush people seeking democratic reform, knowing full well that his police enjoy raping female protesters without batting an eye. Where you can stare at men and women getting chopped to pieces and say "not our problem." Where you look an interviewer in the eye and say half a million dead children are "worth it" to prove a point. Where you can hold hands and share dinner with a guy who is, right at that moment, conducting mass executions of political opponents, holding mass trials in absentia, all with foregone death penalties. Where you can sit in front of the United nations and with a straight face, lie about anthrax with a bottle of craft glitter and the need to annihilate another nation. Wehre you can pat yourself on the back for spewing napalm on villages and leaving a trail of coups and mass-murdering juntas in your wake.

Now, I know, international politics is a nasty place and there are no saints. This sort of job, and thesort of people who can do it effectively are probably necessary, as much as i wish they weren't.

But they should never bee in charge of any nation.

Never.

Not Kerry, not Clinton, not Rice, not Powell, not Albright, not Christopher, none of them.

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In fairness her job as SoS was to promote current US policy Recursion Jun 2015 #1
That is not the point BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #2
What is the point? That we want to promote environmental and labor regulations with trade agreements Recursion Jun 2015 #3
Then she should be clear about that BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #5
And US foreign policy is usually reprehensible and ethically void. Scootaloo Jun 2015 #6
+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #10
We've had some decent Secretaries of State in the past Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #18
This should be an OP. Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #44
That's a very lame excuse. It's the SOS's job to Exilednight Jun 2015 #12
+1 BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #14
Yep. Pretty much rpannier Jun 2015 #25
In fairness, she wrote a book saying the same thing after she was SoS. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2015 #32
If she didn't agree with the policy or thought it bad she could have stepped down. cui bono Jun 2015 #55
Well, at least she wasn't pandering... RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #4
Hillary Clinton didn't resign; she promoted the TPP Sienna86 Jun 2015 #7
Yep, and now ... crickets instead of even talkin' bout the TPP...Go Bernie! drynberg Jun 2015 #13
Yet now she's on the fence regarding the "gold standard" of trade deals. How can one trust her? Scuba Jun 2015 #8
This sort of campaigning might have worked in the days before the internet BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #9
...! KoKo Jun 2015 #37
Have you noticed the difference in her delivering this speech and the one she gave Saturday madokie Jun 2015 #17
New world order, rah rah rah! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #11
The rich are different BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #15
There We Have It - Proof Positive - American Workers Be Damned cantbeserious Jun 2015 #16
More Negative attacks,,,,,,, geeez Cryptoad Jun 2015 #19
Yes people, Hillary's *own* *words* are now negative attacks Fumesucker Jun 2015 #20
Glad you finaly realized Cryptoad Jun 2015 #22
Hillary's extensive record of public service cannot be spoken of? Fumesucker Jun 2015 #23
You still don't get,,,,, Cryptoad Jun 2015 #30
How is it being spun? It's a video of her speaking. cui bono Jun 2015 #56
Keep it up Cryptoad Jun 2015 #59
It is until you bring it up madokie Jun 2015 #40
Oh,,,, it is not happenstance Cryptoad Jun 2015 #60
Her memoir was released 370 days ago. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #29
Thank You rpannier Jun 2015 #28
You should really stop conflating criticism of Hillary's policies with "negative attacks". djean111 Jun 2015 #31
+1 L0oniX Jun 2015 #36
There is no commentary in the OP BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #42
Are you saying her position on the TPP is a net negative for her? grahamhgreen Jun 2015 #47
Everybody knows why this was posted Cryptoad Jun 2015 #50
You don't seem to understand what was posted. cui bono Jun 2015 #57
Im voting for Bernie,,, Cryptoad Jun 2015 #58
. stonecutter357 Jun 2015 #21
She was for it 2 months ago !! Seperate what she does & says, on Trade . orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #24
She sounds more like a defense secretary than a diplomat. Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #26
And remember when both HRC & Obama played us in 2008 re: NAFTA RiverLover Jun 2015 #27
Indeed ...and she is still playing some gullible Dems for fools. L0oniX Jun 2015 #34
Thanks for the Video...and reminding us of Goolsbee Comment which was posted on DU KoKo Jun 2015 #39
So she was for it before she was against ...uhm er undecided about it. L0oniX Jun 2015 #33
Singapore needs no pitch to sell them TPP, Singapore is one of the 4 originating signatory nations Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #35
Singapore is a dictatorship, is it not? grahamhgreen Jun 2015 #48
Sooner or later Hillary will have to come out of her bubble and start answering questions Autumn Jun 2015 #38
I thought for sure it would end with the "kickoff" BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #45
"This TPP sets the gold standard in trade agreements to open free, transparent, fair trade, the kind grahamhgreen Jun 2015 #41
Yes BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #43
See? Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #46
Most definitely BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #49
Who says Hillary can't stake out a clear unequivocating position? pa28 Jun 2015 #51
TPP is not for me ! CTBlueboy Jun 2015 #52
I see..the Secretary of State promoted a policy of the Administration she worked for. brooklynite Jun 2015 #53
Yes, you see what you want, she takes more responsibility for being 1st Lady orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #54
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