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jeff47

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4. What about when the post is making a political argument?

Mon Jun 15, 2015, 10:51 AM

Jun 2015

For example, many here were claiming there would be record crowds to Clinton's launch. This was supposed to supply evidence that Clinton actually has vast numbers of excited people.

When turnout is lower than expected, isn't that relevant to their discussion? The posters wanted to use crowd size as a proxy for popularity and excitement. When it doesn't happen, they should not expect the metrics they brought into the discussion to be ignored.

Now, if the OP is just "It was awesome to be at this event", then there's no political discussion to be had - the person is sharing their experience. Dumping snark onto their experience is poor form.

But when the poster turns it into a political discussion, then a political discussion should be expected. Along with all the disagreements that come from that.

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Just food for thought when someone makes a positive post about an event for a Dem Candidate [View all] LynneSin Jun 2015 OP

You noticed..... Historic NY Jun 2015 #1

I happen to like the free-for-all. Those who don't probalby don't belong on a discussion forum. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #33

I certainly like an open debate hfojvt Jun 2015 #59

I usually ignore the statements that don't have nay substance. They are just boring. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #71

Not every thread needs to be a free-for-all LynneSin Jun 2015 #62

Huh? 2008 was awesome on DU. Dawgs Jun 2015 #43

A good request mythology Jun 2015 #2

Snark and nastiness aside, when is criticism of a Dem's speech ok? leveymg Jun 2015 #3

Start your own thread. onehandle Jun 2015 #5

I did that as well. It hit the top of the Greatest yesterday. But, sometimes, leveymg Jun 2015 #11

This is Democratic Underground, not Dissident Underground. onehandle Jun 2015 #21

I respectfully disagree. Dissident voices is part of what makes this Democratic Underground and not leveymg Jun 2015 #49

I didn't see your posts, but... Adrahil Jun 2015 #22

Here it is. leveymg Jun 2015 #31

This is a discussion forum. People respond to posts of other people. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #37

Mmm. What a yummy turd. onehandle Jun 2015 #41

If you consider people of differeing opinions "party crashers" perhaps you should stay cui bono Jun 2015 #48

Exactly. If the speech is discussed in the context of a rally then can we respond to the speech? jwirr Jun 2015 #6

Why can't you just start a new thread about the rally from your side's perspective? LynneSin Jun 2015 #8

I know that you are not pointing fingers. I was asking because on Sunday much of the speech was jwirr Jun 2015 #9

THIS ^^^^^ calimary Jun 2015 #19

Agreed! Laser102 Jun 2015 #23

I hearily rec this post Blue_Adept Jun 2015 #24

Your post is part of the problem. pennylane100 Jun 2015 #29

I did notice you conveniently left off the rest of what I said. calimary Jun 2015 #51

Yes, I did notice that your post then goes on to a more even tone. pennylane100 Jun 2015 #82

Calimary, really.... you need to open your eyes then. cui bono Jun 2015 #53

Yay! Another fellow traveler who may have seen only part of my post calimary Jun 2015 #74

I saw the rest of your post, but you had already stated you hadn't seen anything cui bono Jun 2015 #75

you are absolutely right LynneSin Jun 2015 #61

Because mediocrity and corruption should not be allowed to celebrate themselves in peace. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #38

Wow, and I wonder why I really do not want to support Team Sanders LynneSin Jun 2015 #58

Bernie is a strong candidate. For all her money, Hillary does not keep up with Bernie. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #73

Start a separate thread LynneSin Jun 2015 #7

But that would take all the attention getting fun out of one's foot stomping display! ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #13

Like Christians who demand the Ten Commandments be displayed on public property, Purrfessor Jun 2015 #17

Yep. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #18

DAYUM! Good one, Purrfessor! calimary Jun 2015 #28

A couple of responses to some of your statements. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #46

What about when the post is making a political argument? jeff47 Jun 2015 #4

I know you don't want to point fingers, but why did this not come up cui bono Jun 2015 #10

Uhm ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #15

Yes there were. cui bono Jun 2015 #45

Okay; but that "reading" says more about you, than what those posters didn't write. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #52

Okay, but no. cui bono Jun 2015 #55

Perhaps, if you post a link to the "wink wink" posts ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #57

I'm not posting a call out. ;) cui bono Jun 2015 #65

I commented that it was probably the least diverse kickoff event for "Democrat"... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #68

You might want to get awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #64

Perhaps ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #66

You may have missed the thread awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #79

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #80

There are also wolves in DU clothing here Omaha Steve Jun 2015 #12

+1000! n/t ColesCountyDem Jun 2015 #25

Yes, some of us have noticed that Hekate Jun 2015 #32

Oh yes, we have. cui bono Jun 2015 #69

Good message for DU AuntPatsy Jun 2015 #14

Amen! If you want to rain on a parade, head over to GOP Street 66 dmhlt Jun 2015 #16

This sounds curiously like self censorship. jalan48 Jun 2015 #20

All the pooping on the otherside is a great way to help the Democrats beat Republicans liberal N proud Jun 2015 #26

no shit. i wish the juries would wake up and realize mopinko Jun 2015 #27

Some of the jurors seems unclear on the concept Hekate Jun 2015 #34

MOST of the jurors are unclear on the concept. mopinko Jun 2015 #44

Thank you. I was trying to not paint with too broad a brush, but. I don't alert very often, but... Hekate Jun 2015 #70

we are. mopinko Jun 2015 #84

Sigh... another good point. calimary Jun 2015 #36

right there w you. mopinko Jun 2015 #47

Sucks, doesn't it?! calimary Jun 2015 #56

golf balls through garden hoses. mopinko Jun 2015 #63

Too many jurors aren't capable of being or do not wish to be impartial. cui bono Jun 2015 #67

One person's asshole is another person's Android3.14 Jun 2015 #78

This is a discussion forum, not the Mainstream Media. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #30

you signed a user agreement when you signed up. mopinko Jun 2015 #54

IMO the current system gives the trolls more power than the open-minded posters rhett o rick Jun 2015 #83

Good post Lynne. I notice who showed up to say they (plural) have no interest in improving DU .... Hekate Jun 2015 #35

Yep, I'll sign the pledge! lark Jun 2015 #39

Listen to Bernie DownriverDem Jun 2015 #40

Welcome to DU, DownriverDem! calimary Jun 2015 #60

This is how people learn. I enjoy and welcome it. n/t jtuck004 Jun 2015 #42

Of course, you mean "Poop on 'other' Democrats" threads/posts. longship Jun 2015 #50

I agree. And everyone who does it seems to point fingers at the 'other side's folks' lovemydog Jun 2015 #72

we will try Liberal_in_LA Jun 2015 #76

General Discussion Android3.14 Jun 2015 #77

I wholeheartedly agree! AwakeAtLast Jun 2015 #81