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In reply to the discussion: Just food for thought when someone makes a positive post about an event for a Dem Candidate [View all]JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)46. A couple of responses to some of your statements.
And I know which candidate you are talking about but you know it's the same thing when those supporters go into your thread and talk about how they feel that candidate can't win a general election blah blah blah. They do that they look exactly the same way.
First, I don't understand the "your" thread which suggests there is ownership of the threads. When we start a thread on DU, we INVITE DISCUSSION. That's what we are doing when we start threads. Discussions in which everyone just agrees and repeats what is stated in the first post starting the discussion are boring. We learn by thinking about what we post and what others post. There is no point in just repeating nice little comments about some candidate or idea we like. We would be better off just doing some lovely embroidery at that point. I've done lots of that in my life -- love to embroider and sew and knit and crochet and cook -- all very wonderful, quiet, solitary pass-times. Somehow, the potatoes never hurt my feelings, never criticize my favorites, the carrots. It's so delightfully harmonious how the rosemary, thyme and sage work together in perfect harmony to season my broiled vegetables. Hmmm. Delicious. But DU is not my favorite mix of veggies and spices. No. That is not what DU is about. DU is about disagreeing and sometimes the statements of others, even though perfectly above reproach in terms of the choice of words (no no-no language puhhhlease.), grammar and syntax can really touch a sensitive nerve. It hurts. But it is part of the repartee, part of the exchange. As Truman said, "if it's too hot in the kitchen, get out." Anyway, the point is that when we post an opening post on DU, we are inviting the world to come into our personal kitchen. We are opening ourselves up, and we shouldn't complain if someone else puts a bit of vinegar into a dish we had so hoped would be very sweet and kind of reassuring. If we want only pleasantries, we should go to the private website of our candidate and immerse ourselves in the wonderful glow of "All's well in this best of all possible worlds" feeling until we are ready to come out and face this nasty, ugly, derisive, disagreeable real world again.
And I know which candidate you are talking about but you know it's the same thing when those supporters go into your thread and talk about how they feel that candidate can't win a general election blah blah blah. They do that they look exactly the same way.
As a Bernie supporter, I fully understand why Hillary supporters believe that only their candidate can win. I am pleased to see that Bernie is already surpassing the expectations of the naysayers in reaching crowds and getting his message out. I want Bernie to win, but I wanted Edwards to win in 2008, and look what happened to my candidate who spoke so brilliantly about my issues -- poverty, social injustice, etc. So I learned from that experience that anything can happen in a campaign. Your candidate can turn out to have a lover and an inconvenient (although probably very wonderful) love child, and your candidate can be second in the Iowa primaries, unexpectedly second and doing well, and then crash because of some scandal or health problem (the McGovern campaign's problem with his vice presidential choice) or the economy can crash at the wrong time. And isn't it great that we have more than one candidate. Let's criticize and weigh and measure our candidates well before the 2016 elections because we need to know as much about them as possible. The criticism that Bernie can't win is sort of dumb because that is what the election and the primary are about -- can he win? The Republicans were so sure that Romney would win in 2012. How could he have lost. After all, God was on his side, and Obama was either a godless socialist or an African Zulu or something like that, maybe a Muslim. When you think about the nonsense rumors spread about Obama in 2012 and then you realize that he won in the election, it sort of puts petty criticism into perspective. Don't worry about it. It's all part of the game. The game isn't very nice. Embroidery is nice. Just get some balance in your own life, and the non-embroidery moments won't hurt quite so much.
So sorry for the rant, but I had just as much fun writing my rant as Lynnesinn did writing hers, and well, please don't rain on my parade because I'm very sensitive in my way too and I do love to embroider and knit and sew and all the nice things that I can do in private and that nobody can criticize or ridicule or snark about. Thanks for reading this post. If you made it to the end, you deserve a medal.
Yours truly, JD Priestly
Please don't make me feel bad. I'm on DU because I want people to consider my sensitive feelings. And those of my candidate.
Snarked out. Thanks..
I read my post to my husband, and he said it was sexist.
So I shall add that when I want a criticism-free respite from the DU snark, I work jigsaw puzzles also. That's a genderless activity, lots of fun, and the puzzle pieces don't every hurt my feelings. So, I hope I have removed the sexist slant in my post just a bit. By the way, I am a woman. A lot of DUers have shown surprise when they learned that I am a rather petite, very feminine, very womanly woman. I assume that Lynnesinn is too. And I hope I didn't hurt her feelings with this post. But we have to live in a tough, man's world as they say, so we have to balance our feminine and masculine sides (whatever that means), and no, I have not been drinking in the morning. I just am frustrated with the attempts to silence DUers who say things we don't like. That's part of why we are hear, to expose ourselves to opinions we don't like.
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Just food for thought when someone makes a positive post about an event for a Dem Candidate [View all]
LynneSin
Jun 2015
OP
I happen to like the free-for-all. Those who don't probalby don't belong on a discussion forum.
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#33
I usually ignore the statements that don't have nay substance. They are just boring.
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#71
I respectfully disagree. Dissident voices is part of what makes this Democratic Underground and not
leveymg
Jun 2015
#49
If you consider people of differeing opinions "party crashers" perhaps you should stay
cui bono
Jun 2015
#48
Exactly. If the speech is discussed in the context of a rally then can we respond to the speech?
jwirr
Jun 2015
#6
Why can't you just start a new thread about the rally from your side's perspective?
LynneSin
Jun 2015
#8
I know that you are not pointing fingers. I was asking because on Sunday much of the speech was
jwirr
Jun 2015
#9
I saw the rest of your post, but you had already stated you hadn't seen anything
cui bono
Jun 2015
#75
Because mediocrity and corruption should not be allowed to celebrate themselves in peace.
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#38
Bernie is a strong candidate. For all her money, Hillary does not keep up with Bernie.
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#73
But that would take all the attention getting fun out of one's foot stomping display! ...
1StrongBlackMan
Jun 2015
#13
Like Christians who demand the Ten Commandments be displayed on public property,
Purrfessor
Jun 2015
#17
Okay; but that "reading" says more about you, than what those posters didn't write.
1StrongBlackMan
Jun 2015
#52
I commented that it was probably the least diverse kickoff event for "Democrat"...
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2015
#68
All the pooping on the otherside is a great way to help the Democrats beat Republicans
liberal N proud
Jun 2015
#26
Thank you. I was trying to not paint with too broad a brush, but. I don't alert very often, but...
Hekate
Jun 2015
#70
IMO the current system gives the trolls more power than the open-minded posters
rhett o rick
Jun 2015
#83
Good post Lynne. I notice who showed up to say they (plural) have no interest in improving DU ....
Hekate
Jun 2015
#35
I agree. And everyone who does it seems to point fingers at the 'other side's folks'
lovemydog
Jun 2015
#72