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In reply to the discussion: Reporter Who Wrote Times 'Snowden' Propaganda Admits He's Just Writing What UK Gov't Told Him [View all]Aerows
(39,961 posts)70. I started a post on it
Here:http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026843990
but here's a tidbit:
That is assuming petty crime is the goal of this immense and sophisticated hacking operation. There is currently little evidence of such motivations, which is interesting, because the pilfered data would have been worth millions on the black market if sold quickly. Identity theft is a time-sensitive operation. It is important to act before the victims realize their Social Security numbers, credit card numbers, passwords, etc. have been compromised, and take remedial action.
Remember, the data breach actually happened near the end of last year it was discovered, apparently by accident, in April, and not disclosed to the millions of victims until now. In previous identity-theft hacking operations, such as the big scores pulled off by Russian gangs over the past few years, the stolen data was sold on black-market websites while it was still fresh. That is one of the ways security investigators learned the extent of the crimes they monitor shadowy criminal data markets carefully. The gang that pulled off the biggest data heist in history does not seem interested in making a few bucks by selling off their wares, or by using the data themselves for financial crime.
Remember, the data breach actually happened near the end of last year it was discovered, apparently by accident, in April, and not disclosed to the millions of victims until now. In previous identity-theft hacking operations, such as the big scores pulled off by Russian gangs over the past few years, the stolen data was sold on black-market websites while it was still fresh. That is one of the ways security investigators learned the extent of the crimes they monitor shadowy criminal data markets carefully. The gang that pulled off the biggest data heist in history does not seem interested in making a few bucks by selling off their wares, or by using the data themselves for financial crime.
That's fucked up, MADem.
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Reporter Who Wrote Times 'Snowden' Propaganda Admits He's Just Writing What UK Gov't Told Him [View all]
marmar
Jun 2015
OP
I agree--he should have gotten an "opposing view" quote. There's more here, certainly.
MADem
Jun 2015
#9
Where did I say anything about giving equal weight? If a reporter goes to one source
MADem
Jun 2015
#46
People like to fight here on DU. I'd rather talk about what is happening in the world.
MADem
Jun 2015
#53
I think it was a piece of bloody, fatty meat tied to a line and thrown off the back of the boat.
MADem
Jun 2015
#56
I don't think the reform is all that much of a surprise, and I thought the timing had more to do
MADem
Jun 2015
#64
I agree with that, too. The oversight stunk on ice. There's a lot of entrenched idiocy.
MADem
Jun 2015
#66
They are covering something up or someone else in the complex web of private contractors
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#78
The Chinese and Russians do it differently than we do--they put their hackers in uniform.
MADem
Jun 2015
#79
There is just some information that should not be placed on any computer system.
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#80
If they KNOW that people are gonna play games and screw around, they should bite the bullet and
MADem
Jun 2015
#86
I totally agree. There is no excuse for the sloppiness involved in this scandal no matter
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#88
Fact checking is fine, too. But it's more of a challenge when you agree to quote a source
MADem
Jun 2015
#35
Journalism 101: if you have only one unattributed source, Don't Go To Print with it.
truebluegreen
Jun 2015
#38
That hasn't been the standard for years. I don't think it would be a bad idea to go back to it,
MADem
Jun 2015
#49
No shit, end of discussion of who, what, when, where, why and for added value HOW!!!
mrdmk
Jun 2015
#84
Actually. They should be investigators. What people are saying are not necessarily facts.
Luminous Animal
Jun 2015
#12
Oh give it up. You were on the poopy-head band wagon until the reporter revealed himself
Luminous Animal
Jun 2015
#20
To pretend that reporters are objective, impartial and without an agenda is at best naive...nt
Jesus Malverde
Jun 2015
#30
I don't say they are. I say the ones that are worthy of any respect should strive for that ideal. nt
MADem
Jun 2015
#45
Well, your mind is made up and have a nice day. See you in Nov of next year--if you're still here.
MADem
Jun 2015
#87
I responded to what you wrote. If you managed to backtrack and revise that nonsense so what?
Warren Stupidity
Jun 2015
#93
Please read the full conversation, which took place a day before you decided to chime in.
MADem
Jun 2015
#95
I knew someone would be here to stick up for shitty reporting and sloppy propaganda.
DisgustipatedinCA
Jun 2015
#98
No idea what you're talking about, but my question was strictly a courtesy--no hidden meaning.
DisgustipatedinCA
Jun 2015
#100
Correct. Someone who simply hands readers what the government handed him or her is
merrily
Jun 2015
#5
And now, we have a law that says our government can propagandize us. Considering networks were
merrily
Jun 2015
#23
Now where is everyone who started screeching SNOWDEN TRAITOR(TM)!!! all over again?
daredtowork
Jun 2015
#22
Shouldn't we all trust our government? See GWB and IWR for solution to quiz.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jun 2015
#83