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sabrina 1

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55. I disagree. She will get part of the base of the Dem party, period. And the party's base has shrunk
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 02:04 AM
Jun 2015

since 2008 by almost 10%, at least 5% are now registered Independents, maybe more. She will NOT get the Independent vote which is now the largest voting bloc in the country. Bernie is going after that vote.

Then there is the large non voter bloc, disgusted with the corruption in DC, the lack of interest in actual people, many simply don't vote anymore. They are tired of packaged campaign promises, the carefully chosen words, the empty promises made in campaigns then reversed once the election is over.

Iow, they have no reason to vote.

Bernie is already making inroads into that demographic. I, eg, have already signed up someone who has not voted in many years. It's not hard to spark interest in non-voters WITH THE RIGHT CANDIDATE.

Bernie not only has a chance of winning, he very likely to win at this point.

Much of the support for Clinton right now is the 'hold your nose and vote' kind, it's very soft. Bernie appeals to many Clinton supporters, see the interviews with some of them at Bernie's rallies. The ONLY thing stopping them from supporting him right now they say, is a fear he might not win the GE. But the more successful he is the more that fear begins to diminish.

The country is starving for something other than the old status quo. And now they have it.

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+1 appalachiablue Jun 2015 #46
K&R. Snotcicles Jun 2015 #3
Read the whole thing it is really great and gives me real hope. jwirr Jun 2015 #4
Good post. Thanks Populist_Prole Jun 2015 #5
You Are Quite Welcome !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #32
K/R Jack Rabbit Jun 2015 #6
Anytime, Jack Rabbit... Anytime... WillyT Jun 2015 #33
greider is far more optimistic than I Doctor_J Jun 2015 #7
From Molly Ball at The Atlantic, commenting on Hillary's carefully worded speech. Ikonoklast Jun 2015 #12
I agree, and I don't understand passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #17
There are those who cannot step back, listen to what is actually said, and compare those words Ikonoklast Jun 2015 #18
You are correct passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #19
because they benefit from the status quo or have not been harmed by it (yet). nt antigop Jun 2015 #42
I don't understand either. coyote Jun 2015 #68
"everybody will have a better time.” PeoViejo Jun 2015 #29
Hillary will do nothing to upset her hedge fund and investment banker friends. Ikonoklast Jun 2015 #30
Couldn't have said it better. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2015 #51
You are absolutely correct. This is true no matter what she says. n/t Enthusiast Jun 2015 #60
But, "first woman president" seems to be all that matters to many. 7962 Jun 2015 #58
I'm already disappointed. That's why I support Bernie. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #59
You may be right but what I see happening is that should HRC win the nomination rhett o rick Jun 2015 #25
she will get a LOT of votes because of her gender, and a lot of crossover votes Doctor_J Jun 2015 #28
Why would the big shots have a particular preference for Clinton? Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #44
sanity Doctor_J Jun 2015 #45
I don't know Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #47
Yeah. They got war and stuff. They will vote for the party that promises them free stuff. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #61
I disagree. She will get part of the base of the Dem party, period. And the party's base has shrunk sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #55
"The country is starving for something other than the old status quo." Enthusiast Jun 2015 #62
I would not count on that. TM99 Jun 2015 #56
K & R Feel the Bern. L0oniX Jun 2015 #8
Good article. Really readable. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #9
Well at least our "divide" (Dems) is about bringing back some control SoapBox Jun 2015 #10
Must Read! Must Read! Must Read! SoapBox Jun 2015 #11
Great post! marym625 Jun 2015 #13
:) WillyT Jun 2015 #34
ummm... "The President Does the Job Badly, Let's Devolve Power Back to Congress..." TygrBright Jun 2015 #14
You raise an awfully good point here, TygrBright! calimary Jun 2015 #20
Inspiring. Thanks. closeupready Jun 2015 #15
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I'm going with a mix of ignorance and arrogance zipplewrath Jun 2015 #21
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k and r. Greider helps us see the truth. bbgrunt Jun 2015 #22
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Anytime... WillyT Jun 2015 #35
We nominate, and elect, very bright, and energetic, people Babel_17 Jun 2015 #26
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That's good. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #65
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This is the perfect time for the workers to..... Hotler Jun 2015 #36
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K & R Thespian2 Jun 2015 #39
Thank you Bernie! AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #40
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You Are Quite Welcome !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #54
What did we win? n/t Orsino Jun 2015 #64
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K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #67
K&R me b zola Jun 2015 #69
We are not the left, we are the center; we are the majority. grahamhgreen Jun 2015 #70
From the looks of it we are Charlie Sheen winning d_legendary1 Jun 2015 #72
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