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Koinos

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45. How are law-abiding citizens negatively impacted by gun control?

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 08:24 AM

Jun 2015

A little inconvenience? Delay in purchasing? No one is talking about banning guns altogether, although I would be in favor of it.

Gun control is a small price to pay, if even a few mentally ill or "potentially" criminal types are kept from owning guns. We need enforcement to back up regulation, in this and every other regard.

And everyone is a law-abiding citizen until he breaks the law. People are not born as law-abiding or law-breaking individuals. Having a gun around makes it easier to go from law-abiding to law-breaking.

When it comes to gun-control, I am strongly in favor of it; and I believe that Sanders' mixed position is unfortunate in that regard. The Brady bill was just common sense.

In general, I believe that Americans have too many guns, drive too many gas guzzlers, and watch too much television.

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O'Malley signed gun control law [View all] Andy823 Jun 2015 OP

This should be universal law concerning guns. misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #1

k&r bigtree Jun 2015 #2

Terrific! nt valerief Jun 2015 #3

And he thinks he can win a national election? nt hack89 Jun 2015 #4

O'Malley is the one fully progressive Democrat running. KittyWampus Jun 2015 #5

So this one issue means Bernie isn't a progressive? KamaAina Jun 2015 #6

yes MoonRiver Jun 2015 #7

He's an independent running as a Democrat. KittyWampus Jun 2015 #8

sad part is folks don't realize on this issue Bernie is the only progressive. ileus Jun 2015 #14

Care to explain that to us? nt Andy823 Jun 2015 #15

? He voted against the Brady Bill leftofcool Jun 2015 #16

Yeah, nothing says "fully progressive" quite like zero-tolerance policing. NewSystemNeeded Jun 2015 #10

Nothing says "I can't think rationally" like a post hoc ergo prompter hoc fallacy. LanternWaste Jun 2015 #11

Calling something a fallacy is not an effective way to dismiss someone's position. NewSystemNeeded Jun 2015 #13

Nothing says "I don't actually know this stuff" like... Lizzie Poppet Jun 2015 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author FSogol Jun 2015 #31

It was O'Malley's policy when he was mayor. So I don't see the causal fallacy. Vattel Jun 2015 #35

Baltimorean @freedlander drops a major truth bomb re: @GovernorOMalley�s record as Mayor in Baltimor elleng Jun 2015 #18

That's why I like him Andy823 Jun 2015 #20

Yes indeed, Andy, elleng Jun 2015 #22

You are doing a good job Andy823 Jun 2015 #23

Thanks, Andy. elleng Jun 2015 #24

Not very truthful for a truth bomb. Vattel Jun 2015 #36

'GovernorOMalley did something a lot of these mayors don�t do: elleng Jun 2015 #38

I love that he has done JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #44

Again, the suggestion that the 43% drop in crime was O'Malley's doing is quite misleading. Vattel Jun 2015 #47

yet some critics think it's just fine to blame today's problems with the Baltimore PD bigtree Jun 2015 #48

Thanks, bigtree. elleng Jun 2015 #50

What "some critics" do is irrelevant to my post. I don't blame O'Malley for what Vattel Jun 2015 #56

the 48% figure is an average of the decade in which there was a definitive drop in violent crime bigtree Jun 2015 #60

O'Malley wasn't mayor after January of 2007. Vattel Jun 2015 #61

yet, in that decade, the violent crime rate droped precipitously bigtree Jun 2015 #62

sorry, I just edited my post and then saw your reply. Vattel Jun 2015 #63

that's an incorrect reading of what I wrote bigtree Jun 2015 #66

I agree that some of his police policies were great. Vattel Jun 2015 #67

Also from the NAACP: FSogol Jun 2015 #33

Other NAACP people remain critical of O'Malley's zero tolerence policies. Vattel Jun 2015 #57

The double-edged sword of practical action. Koinos Jun 2015 #37

well said, Koinos bigtree Jun 2015 #65

I like both Sanders and O'Malley Aerows Jun 2015 #30

K&R sheshe2 Jun 2015 #9

This'll bring 'em running. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2015 #12

That's a step in the right direction... Sancho Jun 2015 #17

Thanks, Andy. elleng Jun 2015 #19

I really like this guy! etherealtruth Jun 2015 #21

Hmmm, so that means the criminals will turn in their hi cap mags now? GGJohn Jun 2015 #26

Why have any laws or regulations at all? Koinos Jun 2015 #39

Why not pass laws that will actually do some good? GGJohn Jun 2015 #40

O'Malley decriminalized marijuana. Koinos Jun 2015 #41

So how does mag limits help in that regard? GGJohn Jun 2015 #42

How are law-abiding citizens negatively impacted by gun control? Koinos Jun 2015 #45

One of many reasons why I support O'Malley. Koinos Jun 2015 #27

He's a damn good candidate Aerows Jun 2015 #29

We'll have the whole primary system to sort it out. FSogol Jun 2015 #32

Good point about Aerows Jun 2015 #34

Yes we are lucky Andy823 Jun 2015 #46

I will say this plainly Aerows Jun 2015 #28

K & R n/t JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #43

Gun control will not be an issue in the general election hack89 Jun 2015 #49

Maybe not, but elleng Jun 2015 #51

ofcoarse it will be an issue as long as the nra has an email account dembotoz Jun 2015 #52

Probably not Andy823 Jun 2015 #54

I disagree hack89 Jun 2015 #55

Maybe, but over the last 7 years and dozens of high profile shooting cases, Obama has tried once... aikoaiko Jun 2015 #64

Potentially self-damaging, but if he were the nominee I would vote for him... Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #53

This news is a year old BainsBane Jun 2015 #58

Yes. It became law. Here's the info: FSogol Jun 2015 #59