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JDPriestly

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45. I won't vote for Hillary. I do not trust her.

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 02:44 PM

Jun 2015

She voted for the Patriot Act. She voted for the Iraq War Resolution. She has shown bad judgment.

We have a candidate, Bernie Sanders, who has voted, often against the herd in Congress, for what is right and just.

He will make a good president.

I don't think Hillary will. Hillary supported the Defense of Marriage Act. Bill Clinton signed welfare "reform" which has hurt many low-income people who live on the edge and who, thanks to that "reform" in a time of low employment suffer a lot.

A lot of people have illusions about the Clintons. I don't.

I agree with this:

"When Secretary Clinton and the most terrifying GOP candidates on the skin of the Earth share the same donor list, the (D) after her name doesn't matter a dime."

http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/31397-don-t-believe-the-hype-candidate-clinton-s-sudden-populism

I will not vote for Hillary.

People can write all the nasty posts they want with all the foolish propaganda and threats they want, but I will vote my conscience. I hope others will do the same.

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Saying you won't vote for a certain person is showing privilege [View all] upaloopa Jun 2015 OP

Very good response. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #1

Well, yes. It demonstrates that those people are not willing to do what they obviously expected Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #2

Very good points. Behind the Aegis Jun 2015 #9

Hillary is on video clearly stating that marriage is between a man and a woman and its JDPriestly Jun 2015 #50

And why would you say all of that to me? What in my post indicates to you that I support Hillary? Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #71

Because I will not vote for Hillary under any circumstances. For me, it is Sanders or no one. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #75

The OP specifically says "if she wins the nomination" so this is about the general election. n/t gollygee Jun 2015 #78

But this is about the general and you did not even bother to attempt to address what I said which Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #83

I'm a woman, a mother and a grandmother. I'm not a member of a numberical minority, but JDPriestly Jun 2015 #93

You still did not tell me why you chose not to address what I wrote but to heap upon me all Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #102

Biases toward gay people? JDPriestly Jun 2015 #105

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service eggplant Jun 2015 #137

K & R Iliyah Jun 2015 #3

Yep. It's like "Wah! My guy didn't get nominated, so I'm going to help the Republican!" Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #4

And make no mistake... Cirque du So-What Jun 2015 #7

hogwash frylock Jun 2015 #39

Tell you what... NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #64

Presidential elections are not "one person, one vote", unfortunately. Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #141

You are mistaken AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #142

Only if you live in one of the critical counties. merrily Jun 2015 #153

That sounds like something Hillary did in 2008 Oilwellian Jun 2015 #70

Interesting. MuseRider Jun 2015 #5

Feeling free to vote for Hillary is showing privilege. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #6

87% of African Americans view Hillary favorably. Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #11

Privilege has more than one dimension. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #16

what is the privilege black people have which has supporting hillary JI7 Jun 2015 #36

That makes no sense whatsoever...nt SidDithers Jun 2015 #15

I think they don't like being reminded of privilege. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #67

walking on the left side of an aisle in a store is showing privilege snooper2 Jun 2015 #157

He is correct! DawgHouse Jun 2015 #8

so what if the person saying that is a member of a minority? cali Jun 2015 #10

All the well off NYC "A" list gays like Signorile are in the bag for Hillary, m-lekktor Jun 2015 #28

Oh really? Behind the Aegis Jun 2015 #29

I'm a heterosexual white guy who lives in a county where 1-in-4 people are below the poverty level. NewSystemNeeded Jun 2015 #99

Seems like a pointless guilt exercise verging on fascism LittleBlue Jun 2015 #12

You called it as I saw it too. Puzzledtraveller Jun 2015 #77

Not specific to liberals. goldent Jun 2015 #151

You are right. Puzzledtraveller Jun 2015 #158

It's almost like team Clinton thinks screaming "privilege" and "POC" loud enough jeff47 Jun 2015 #13

Single Interest Politics HassleCat Jun 2015 #14

When the single interest is civil rights - including reproductive rights and safety from our racist bettyellen Jun 2015 #24

All others follow from mine HassleCat Jun 2015 #27

So are you endorsing this garble that voting my conscience is "privilege"? NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #65

Who said that? I was replying to a comment characterizing having a "special interest"'as selfish. bettyellen Jun 2015 #119

Bernie is the civil rights candidate AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #143

He missed a great opportunity to speak to that in Wisconsin. bettyellen Jun 2015 #148

He has spoken to that for 50 years AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #155

Spoke to our current war on women's reproductive choices? What about Wisconsin flew over your head? bettyellen Jun 2015 #156

Is "Privilege" the new shaming word? NightWatcher Jun 2015 #17

It seems to have come a long way from the first sentence in the 14th Amendment. Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #112

then the party is showing privilege by nominating a corporatist insider for president Doctor_J Jun 2015 #18

Do minorities see a 'corporate insider' so easily, though? randome Jun 2015 #21

Bernie will be the bulwark against discrimination AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #144

He wants all of his constituents to have opportunity to good paying jobs. He wants all of Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #152

I disagree with name calling rather than pointing out their decision is to support Repubs uppityperson Jun 2015 #19

well I have the privilege of hfojvt Jun 2015 #20

In Texas, I have the "privilege" of voting for my neighbor's cat. Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #113

i'm pulling for Bernie barbtries Jun 2015 #22

Unmitigated hogwash. 99Forever Jun 2015 #23

+1000 MissDeeds Jun 2015 #49

+1 deutsey Jun 2015 #149

We will all suffer if a Republican President is elected. MineralMan Jun 2015 #25

anyone running as a Democratic candidate for President stage left Jun 2015 #26

Agreed. Behind the Aegis Jun 2015 #32

oh. okay. that's the new bullying meme.Invoke Privilege on the poor and working class! Wow! 2banon Jun 2015 #30

I refused to be coerced into voting for a candidate that I don't want in the White House. [n/t] Maedhros Jun 2015 #31

I have the privilege of voting for whoever earns my vote, and not voting for those who do not. GoneFishin Jun 2015 #33

I agree that you have that priviledge passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #62

Compulsory voting is unconstitutional LittleBlue Jun 2015 #88

there is only one way to change the system passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #97

I respect your right to use whatever method seems logical to you, however it is my belief that GoneFishin Jun 2015 #139

I'm 100% with you in the primary passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #140

Kick & recommended. William769 Jun 2015 #34

That word is getting abused Prism Jun 2015 #35

The word has been abused. Behind the Aegis Jun 2015 #37

This is kind of a nonsensical reply Prism Jun 2015 #68

It makes perfect sense. Behind the Aegis Jun 2015 #82

And Native Americans who refuse to participate in a governmental system LittleBlue Jun 2015 #91

Yup Prism Jun 2015 #103

Depends. Behind the Aegis Jun 2015 #130

Identify the privilege Prism Jun 2015 #104

This message was self-deleted by its author Behind the Aegis Jun 2015 #129

It depends. Behind the Aegis Jun 2015 #131

It's increasingly being used to shout down impoverished white people. NewSystemNeeded Jun 2015 #51

Yes indeed. romanic Jun 2015 #96

I'm privileged to live in a solid blue state and vote my conscience.. frylock Jun 2015 #38

Beat me to it! (see below) Lizzie Poppet Jun 2015 #42

You can also argue that it's a "privilege" accorded by the anachronistic Electoral College. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2015 #40

that'll work with people on DU alc Jun 2015 #41

Michelangelo Signorile has the privilege of being wrong sometimes seveneyes Jun 2015 #43

But voting for a person who will implement policy that will hurt destitute people daredtowork Jun 2015 #44

I won't vote for Hillary. I do not trust her. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #45

So well said it ought to be its own OP. snagglepuss Jun 2015 #135

There are many areas in this country that have unconscionable levels of poverty, NewSystemNeeded Jun 2015 #46

Civil rights = pet issues. Wow. bettyellen Jun 2015 #154

I'm privileged to know a cheap attempt at intimidating thru false shaming.... 99Forever Jun 2015 #47

*cough* BULLSHIT *cough* NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #48

+1. It is my privilege to vote my conscience. AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #61

It is of course one hundred percent accurate and a point I have made here several times. randys1 Jun 2015 #52

I don't think people are reading the actual OP. Behind the Aegis Jun 2015 #54

Yeah, the privilege of deciding for myself what to do with my vote. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #53

Seems like a clever response, but it isnt. You are showing privilege by ignoring reality. randys1 Jun 2015 #87

Really? Do tell. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #114

Then it is not about your individual vote but the attitude that can rub off on others. randys1 Jun 2015 #117

Is it working on you? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #120

My agenda is to do everything in my power to make sure the person with n R after their randys1 Jun 2015 #121

I agree. I've never voted for a Republican and can't imagine ever doing so. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #123

Yeah, so you are the one I will ask...It is down to you, your vote for a 3rd party candidate randys1 Jun 2015 #124

I'd sit it out and read a good book. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #127

That word is starting to set my teeth on edge. nt B2G Jun 2015 #55

if by "privileged" you mean "privileged to not live in a country where voting is compulsory" magical thyme Jun 2015 #56

NO, that is not what is meant. What is meant is it is easy for someone who is non affected by randys1 Jun 2015 #89

Yeah. Iggo Jun 2015 #57

That is so true. Those who will not vote if she's the nominee are those who will not be personally lunamagica Jun 2015 #58

I clicked on this thinking it was going to be the Onion. zeemike Jun 2015 #59

privilege. so many tossing this word around and applying to anthing they can that Romeo.lima333 Jun 2015 #60

HOW is voting for hillary WORSE than my having to vote for Dukakis, kerry + lieberfuckenputz as VP? pansypoo53219 Jun 2015 #63

I don't think people are really reading your post gollygee Jun 2015 #66

My position exactly gaspee Jun 2015 #69

Not only are people not reading the post, they are not reading posts within the thread and just Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #79

Exactly, and what is REALLY funny? Behind the Aegis Jun 2015 #85

People who have said they will vote for any nominee are saying 'Nope' because it's a gay person Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #94

Yup! Behind the Aegis Jun 2015 #84

I am repeating what I heard on the radio this weekend upaloopa Jun 2015 #86

I assume this means in the General Election WilliamPitt Jun 2015 #72

not H2O Man Jun 2015 #73

If you won't vote for the nominee because they are not to your liking, it might not be privilege Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #92

I am privileged to cast my vote for whom I chose or Autumn Jun 2015 #74

In matters of conscience, the law of majority has no place. Gandhi Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #76

Exactly. One person, one vote. And that one vote is yours to do with Autumn Jun 2015 #80

Is that the same as saying only your concerns weigh into your decision? randome Jun 2015 #109

If an election is important to others then they should cast their one vote as they wish. Autumn Jun 2015 #111

Good fucking Christ. TransitJohn Jun 2015 #81

And yet to the vast majority of non whites, Gays, etc., the idea makes perfect sense. randys1 Jun 2015 #90

I would like you to respond to this LittleBlue Jun 2015 #95

I make no judgment calls on ANYONE who isnt in the privileged class, which they are not. randys1 Jun 2015 #98

Are you talking about the general election or accusing non-Hillary supporters of privilege? beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #100

In the text of the OP it says 'if she wins the nomination' Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #101

Well after reading all of the other posts accusing us of not caring about minority issues beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #106

I can understand your suspicion. Behind the Aegis Jun 2015 #132

Oh not only do I understand, BtA I agree with you. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #133

I just edited my OP to say I think it was upaloopa Jun 2015 #107

Thanks, upaloopa. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #108

A vote for Hillary in the primary is a vote for privilege.... MellowDem Jun 2015 #110

They seemed to have forgiven her for any real or perceived transgressions. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #115

Or they don't even know about it... MellowDem Jun 2015 #136

I support Bernie and if he fails to win the nomination then JEB Jun 2015 #116

What type of beatings would you choose today? PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #118

Lol. Way to win friends and influence people, lol. bettyellen Jun 2015 #125

So instead of convincing someone why they should vote for Hillary... davidn3600 Jun 2015 #122

The general election is too far away for this Depaysement Jun 2015 #126

The Nader voters in 2000 very much had that privilege mentality bluestateguy Jun 2015 #128

You mean they exercised their RIGHTS to vote their conscience? NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #146

Cool MFrohike Jun 2015 #134

"he can do that because he was privileged not being a member of a minority or not being gay" wow Kurska Jun 2015 #138

There is probably a minority that doesn't vote JonLP24 Jun 2015 #145

Everything is "privilege" anymore. Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #147

Yep, it is name calling plain and simple goldent Jun 2015 #150

How dare those uppity privileged folks... Oilwellian Jun 2015 #159

At first I thought Jamaal510 Jun 2015 #160