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In reply to the discussion: Ok....I've made up my mind.....I can't support Hillary... [View all]Xyzse
(8,217 posts)I mean, if it is just the primaries, I can fully say that you have some valid points there, albeit I consider it generalizations that I don't fully understand where it is coming from.
I'm not ready for for "The Clinton Experience" again. I got so sick of the Iras and the Mandys , and the Lannys and the Susans that I almost got sick of politics.
I actually do not understand what you mean by the Clinton experience. Other than perhaps the scandals that plagued Bill Clinton's infidelities. If so, that should by no means besmirch Hillary, who in many ways could be considered the victim of such scandal. That she was able to go through it with grace, and strength is a testament to her character.
I don't like her. Last Democratic primaries, Obama and Clinton were my least favorite picks. I would still vote for either in a heartbeat during the General Elections. The issues I can't support her in, is her business relations, willingness to drill and so forth. Obama, I have the same issues with, not to mention his stance on K-12 Education which to me is abhorrent, however, colllege level wise though, I have to give him credit for that, and I appreciate his attempts to make it more affordable.
I feel like she thinks it's some sort of Manifest Destiny that entitles her to the White House.
With her losing the Primaries to Obama in 08, I don't really see her having that Manifest Destiny any more. Current method of campaigning is going by the situation on the ground, which shows her as Front Runner, as such, she can't really attack any one else, nor can she go in to real specifics, since Politics don't really work that way. As such, I don't see her making promises that can't be delivered, which can only be a good thing.
It also makes it a weakness since she can't go as far as the others. I think it is fine for now, but it is also why I am not supporting her during the primaries. I think either Sanders or O'Malley would be a better pick. They are also closer to me in regards to their positions.
I'm not ready for more of the obfuscation, hazy facts, double speak that plagued Bill's final term. Most importantly, I just can't trust her. Is she a hawk or dove ?...is she a liberal Democrat or a "Third Wayer" ? , is she pro-Palestine or pro-Israel ? She just seems "slippery" to me. I just can't shake the feeling that her agenda is not about advancing America, as much as it is advancing Clintonism.
I apologize, but why must Hillary suffer for Bill's mannerisms, actions and so forth? Bill is LOVED, when he comes in to talk up any issue that someone supports, and hated otherwise. That never really made much sense to me. I know that Bill is opportunistic, and so is Hillary, but that is the case to most politicians and merely par to the course. She is slippery to me, which is how I felt about Obama during the primaries. I thought they were close to the same at that time, but he got a pass since he didn't have as much of a voting record and he seemed nice.
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Any how, I can completely understand not trusting her. I sure don't. So, I'll happily not support her during Primary Season, but if by chance, she actually wins the Primaries, you better believe I would support her. She is still miles and miles ahead of any current Republican alternative.
The only reason I am responding is because of the statement "I can't support Hillary..." since I just wanted to see if this is merely for the Primaries, or completely to the point that you would either vote for a 3rd party, the Republicans, or not vote at all during the General Elections if she ends up taking the Democratic nomination.