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21. Stop holding FDR up as "perfect." He caught plenty of shit during his terms, and

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 06:18 PM

Jun 2015

some of it was deserved. He is forgiven for pretty much everything because he prosecuted WW2 brilliantly. That wipes out a LOT of mistakes. But he was the ULTIMATE corporatist--that's how he made his money. He farted through silk. He was entitled. His fortune was made on the backs of workers. He never had to worry about money, from the day he was born until the day he died.

Yes, he was good on social programs, but that's because the nation was STARVING. Desperate times called for desperate measures, and he responded with just that. But he wasn't universally "pro-worker." But he also oversaw an administration that jailed people for being descendants of the enemy, he tried to pull off a court packing scheme that, had Dumbya tried the same thing, would have had everyone here apoplectic,

No one is all one thing--saint, sinner, good, evil, hero, bum. Who knows what FDR's priorities might have been had he not been confronted with economic depression followed by world war?

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"The person you're roaring at, insulting, belittling, might not be here tomorrow" Exactly. [View all] DFW Jun 2015 OP

I have thought about this for a long time. Puzzledtraveller Jun 2015 #1

Eeeeeeeeeeew succotash! leftofcool Jun 2015 #2

I figured at least a few would find that reference less than appealing DFW Jun 2015 #3

The succotash suffers from your lack of attention pinboy3niner Jun 2015 #7

Sure, I'd consider that DFW Jun 2015 #8

I like succotash!! MADem Jun 2015 #11

You were probably on some list pintobean Jun 2015 #17

One never knows, do one!! nt MADem Jun 2015 #18

Was that the Jitterbug Perfume group? DFW Jun 2015 #22

If Tom Robbins wrote you a nasty note... tkmorris Jun 2015 #50

I should be so lucky! DFW Jun 2015 #58

In fact being exposed to constant negativity raises your cortisol level. nolabear Jun 2015 #4

Words of wisdom to live by. Or die from. Thanks, nolabear. n/t freshwest Jun 2015 #45

Being a non partisan is so stress free nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #5

If I want violence, I'll watch "Shooter" again DFW Jun 2015 #6

You're smart to save your vitriol for the general election pinboy3niner Jun 2015 #9

That's when I pop the cork DFW Jun 2015 #10

Well been reading a few books on what ails us nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #12

I don't know if I find it amusing, exactly DFW Jun 2015 #14

Very funny joke nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #15

I have come here on and off since 2003 olddots Jun 2015 #13

so Clinton is NOT a corporatist? hfojvt Jun 2015 #16

Annnnnnd they're OFF! DFW Jun 2015 #19

all terms are vague hfojvt Jun 2015 #42

Stop holding FDR up as "perfect." He caught plenty of shit during his terms, and MADem Jun 2015 #21

He wasn't perfect, HE was a " Class Traitor " so isn't SHE , end of comparison . orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #30

I'm sure that was of great concern to George Takei's parents as they were ripped from their home. MADem Jun 2015 #31

Terrible thing no excuse, Like the WMD's that were instrumental in deaths orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #32

We're talking about FDR, not WMDs in 2004. Don't strain yourself moving those goalposts, now. nt MADem Jun 2015 #34

Were talking about atrocities done by the Government, I'm not straining orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #37

You can take this conversation far afield by yourself. Have a nice night. nt MADem Jun 2015 #38

See ya . orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #39

I missed that part hfojvt Jun 2015 #43

It would help if you would explain Progressive dog Jun 2015 #49

The classic argument in this toxic environment is to "Blah Blah FDR" and hold him up as a paragon of MADem Jun 2015 #55

Oh forcryingoutloud... calimary Jun 2015 #23

2 years ago for me. joshcryer Jun 2015 #20

Stop it libodem Jun 2015 #24

Vicious as some may be on here DFW Jun 2015 #25

I appreciate your well-rounded commentary a good deal. And as one the doctors have declared terminal freshwest Jun 2015 #46

I'm guilty of that, and your point is taken, Thanks orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #26

Thanks again, DFW. But once again the terminally offended just can't stop themselves.... Hekate Jun 2015 #27

"The terminally offended" DFW Jun 2015 #47

But, I love Lima beans. longship Jun 2015 #28

We disagree on the lima beans DFW Jun 2015 #48

I'll take your Lima beans. longship Jun 2015 #51

Wait! What is succotash? scarletwoman Jun 2015 #29

ROFL malaise Jun 2015 #33

Basic succotash is lima beans and corn. MADem Jun 2015 #35

Thanks! Okay then. I am FOR succotash! scarletwoman Jun 2015 #36

Great post! rosesaylavee Jun 2015 #40

K&R - it's worth remembering that this is just one of thousands closeupready Jun 2015 #41

I often think of this, DFW. Life is short. n/t freshwest Jun 2015 #44

I've said this in a few posts here and I will say it again. Initech Jun 2015 #52

It's getting impossible for those of us who have not decided KitSileya Jun 2015 #53

I just reach for the popcorn nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #54

I think Scream XLVIII is less predictable, though. DFW Jun 2015 #57

To a point so do these folks nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #59

It's worth repeating DFW Jun 2015 #56