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Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
21. Yes, Hillary really said it, according to TPM. I agree with you that it's a disappointment.
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 09:05 PM
Jun 2015
Talking Points Memo ran this story on the Social Security debate. The full paragraph from TPM:

"So part of what we have to do is say 'look, let's everybody take a deep breath. Let's figure out what works and how we build on what works and let's not get into arguments about ideology and rhetorical attacks and claims," Clinton said. "Let's just take a deep breath here as a country and say 'okay, we're going to have a retirement issue and people who've worked hard deserve to have enough security when they retire so they can have a good quality of life so I'm a hundred percent committed to that."


She's trying to appeal to voters in the mushy middle. There are people who see "ideology" as the great villain. In their view, the way to govern is for elected officials to put aside partisan politics, reach across the aisle, and work together to get things done. To that train of vapid cliches, perhaps "take a deep breath" will be the next addition.

If one side refuses to talk about ideology, then the result is to reward extremism on the other side. These mushy-middle types tend to think that the right answer must be approximately halfway between the two competing positions. The result, as often noted on DU, is that Republicans stake out extreme right-wing positions and thus move the center toward the right. That's what happens when you say "take a deep breath" instead of "their ideology is bullshit."

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very refreshing. k&r cali Jun 2015 #1
Good for him BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #2
I like what I've seen and heard of Martin so far madokie Jun 2015 #3
When you get right down to it ... staggerleem Jun 2015 #4
THANKS, Andy823! elleng Jun 2015 #5
If Hillary said, Enthusiast Jun 2015 #18
Yes, Hillary really said it, according to TPM. I agree with you that it's a disappointment. Jim Lane Jun 2015 #21
Yes! And we cannot afford to keep moving rightward. cui bono Jun 2015 #24
I like the sound of a Bernie Martin ticket! passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #25
That would be cool Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #28
Thanks. Makes sense to me. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #33
No sense getting into arguments. merrily Jun 2015 #32
I like all of the Democratic candidates in some ways. O'Malley will help in the war against the GOP Sancho Jun 2015 #6
Yes Andy823 Jun 2015 #20
+100 JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #30
I like omalley a lot. I wish the dems would make this their baseline attitude Doctor_J Jun 2015 #7
what I like most about O’M dismissing Rubio’s economic outlook as “bullshit” is that he’s not wrong FSogol Jun 2015 #8
Yep Andy823 Jun 2015 #11
No question about that. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #19
True Dat!!! Deregulation has already made the companies much less safe. Dustlawyer Jun 2015 #35
K & R Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #9
Alight, I am really starting to get into what Mr. O'Malley is saying! Rex Jun 2015 #10
+1 n/t FSogol Jun 2015 #12
Good for him, because it is bullshit. mountain grammy Jun 2015 #13
Eh. Biden called Ryan out back in 2012 by saying Arkana Jun 2015 #14
I think he he said 'stuff' as in 'that's just a lot of 'stuff' = malarkey. Ryan explained generally. appalachiablue Jun 2015 #17
"Bullshit" is an extremely powerful word that says more than hundreds of descriptive words you could world wide wally Jun 2015 #15
I detest people who insist on zero profanity Skittles Jun 2015 #29
k&r bigtree Jun 2015 #16
The BS term O'Malley used... 40RatRod Jun 2015 #22
To a certain extent, Rubio has a point. The oligarchs can rig the system by writing the rules-- Fast Walker 52 Jun 2015 #23
I like a number of things about O'Malley. merrily Jun 2015 #26
I love that Kalidurga Jun 2015 #27
Good for him! JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #31
The truth works Andy823 Jun 2015 #34
The more I hear, read and see ... the more I'm liking O'Malley. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #36
His "I did" blows me away. JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #37
I used to think Sanders / Warren for 2016. Now I think Sanders / O'Malley would be the ticket! Initech Jun 2015 #38
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