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TM99

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56. Yes!

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 10:13 PM

Jun 2015

And then the last 8 years has been a return to that same triangulated bullshit.

TPP/TPA
ACA
Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan
Drone Strikes
NSA Total Information Awareness

I am struck by how few Democrats, who today preach social justice like it is a religion, do not remember how horrid the 1990's were.

AIDS, DOMA, DADT were devastating to the LGBT communities. Clinton's administration was not friendly to this community.

And for the first 'black president' his welfare reform and the expansion of Reagan's war on drugs were daggers in the heart of AA communities all across America. Yet again the Clinton administration was not friendly to POC.

But he was slick willy. He could sell water to a fish. HRC is trying to do that same game - triangulation, FDR's legacy (ha ha!), and evolution on social justice issues when there are other candidates much stronger on both civil rights and economic progressivism.

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Since when did Bill Clinton's Presidency become [View all] redstateblues Jun 2015 OP

Well Bush did leave a huge deficit, and an ocean of blood in the Middle East. Glassunion Jun 2015 #1

Around here? LordGlenconner Jun 2015 #2

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Horse manure Gman Jun 2015 #16

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The bubble came much later, starting around 98 Gman Jun 2015 #23

1996 MFrohike Jun 2015 #25

So please describe how these tech stocks Gman Jun 2015 #26

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Ok MFrohike Jun 2015 #31

So people working in some of the very best times Gman Jun 2015 #33

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I can't believe you actually said that Gman Jun 2015 #47

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Heh MFrohike Jun 2015 #39

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+1000 nt laundry_queen Jun 2015 #70

Excellent post. nt Lonusca Jun 2015 #79

What century are you from? truebluegreen Jun 2015 #42

There was the Dot Com bubble upaloopa Jun 2015 #77

A big part of the dot com bubble was the result of the IPOs bigbrother05 Jun 2015 #102

You certainly have a better understanding of it upaloopa Jun 2015 #106

A world of peace? Oilwellian Jun 2015 #86

Didn't Glass-Steagall get repealed on his watch? nt MH1 Jun 2015 #53

Were you even born then? Gman Jun 2015 #57

LOLOLOL MH1 Jun 2015 #58

Nice ageism. intheflow Jun 2015 #59

Yes. I got paid a shitload of money because I can code. jeff47 Jun 2015 #80

It takes time for policy in the pipeline.We are living in Bill's NAFTA end of Glass Steagll world! TheNutcracker Jun 2015 #78

Not true. It was George Bush's tax cuts that led to "irrational exuberance" and the crash. pnwmom Jun 2015 #112

Since removing Glass-Steagall fucked up our banks. nt valerief Jun 2015 #4

My thoughts exactly Kelvin Mace Jun 2015 #64

Precisely... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #5

Agreed, and I will vote for that. Volaris Jun 2015 #34

Was Kosovo aspirant Jun 2015 #6

No, but from what I know it did stop an in- progress genocide. Volaris Jun 2015 #37

Exactly we got in, achieved our objectives, and got out. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #46

And in the meantime... Oilwellian Jun 2015 #87

No I did not. Volaris Jun 2015 #103

Bosnia was not peace... catnhatnh Jun 2015 #7

We were BEGGED to go to Kosovo leftynyc Jun 2015 #89

The OP said it was a time of peace... catnhatnh Jun 2015 #91

I asked you a question leftynyc Jun 2015 #92

No-I'm against saying war is peace. N/T catnhatnh Jun 2015 #94

Has there been administration in our entire leftynyc Jun 2015 #95

If you think not catnhatnh Jun 2015 #96

I'm indifferent to the OP leftynyc Jun 2015 #98

Well then... catnhatnh Jun 2015 #99

Both of those were leftynyc Jun 2015 #101

It was fucking GENOCIDE BainsBane Jun 2015 #113

Deregulation of banks and telecommunications, DOMA, NAFTA, workfare. NewSystemNeeded Jun 2015 #8

This nailed the key points. Exilednight Jun 2015 #11

Yup, yup but always nevermind about any of that TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #13

Changing student funding from grants to loans CanadaexPat Jun 2015 #38

Wow, I wasn't even aware of that one. nt NewSystemNeeded Jun 2015 #41

And oddly people never seem to realize truebluegreen Jun 2015 #43

A tiny portion of the labor force worked in tech jobs or for internet companies whatthehey Jun 2015 #74

"While it wasn't perfect" sums it up. CAG Jun 2015 #9

Your last sentence says it all. DawgHouse Jun 2015 #10

Two Names: Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer. nt madinmaryland Jun 2015 #12

Yeah i have the same thoughts. i remember Clinton as a good president. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #14

After twelve years of Reagan/Bush, Clinton was a GREAT president! n/t csziggy Jun 2015 #32

Four things we now know the truth about: hifiguy Jun 2015 #15

He campaigned on that crap... joshcryer Jun 2015 #22

He got elected because he was the lesser of two evils. dflprincess Jun 2015 #55

In every election somebody says redstateblues Jun 2015 #65

Don't forget the federal surplus-- truebluegreen Jun 2015 #44

He was an excellent president. The best president of my lifetime. I BreakfastClub Jun 2015 #17

Exactly backwards. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #19

I remember only back to Eisenhower aka-chmeee Jun 2015 #69

I never understood why conservatives hated Clinton so much. Maedhros Jun 2015 #104

When he was in office? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #18

If your premise is correct DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #27

It would be logical to conclude that truebluegreen Jun 2015 #49

Does that suggest that it is of no moment whether a Republican or Hillary Clinton ... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #66

Are you suggesting that (your obvious preferred) candidate truebluegreen Jun 2015 #67

No. I know that Bill Clinton was preferable to Bush Pere and Bob Dole and Hillary DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #68

So do you have any kind of problem with Bill's policies? truebluegreen Jun 2015 #71

There were two recessions under Bush. jeff47 Jun 2015 #81

He's married to Hillary. zappaman Jun 2015 #21

His approval numbers validate your OP. JaneyVee Jun 2015 #24

It was the after effects MFrohike Jun 2015 #29

Clinton's presidency was at best mediocre. Spider Jerusalem Jun 2015 #30

^^This^^ truebluegreen Jun 2015 #50

People keep saying this as received truth. Prove it. whatthehey Jun 2015 #75

There weren't a just few lucky grifters making a billion. jeff47 Jun 2015 #83

Simply look at GDP, inflation and unemployment... LanternWaste Jun 2015 #82

Look at GDP, inflation, and unemployment in 1929 when Coolidge left office. Spider Jerusalem Jun 2015 #97

I would elect Bill Clinton again if not for the anti-FDR amendment. onehandle Jun 2015 #35

+1 LordGlenconner Jun 2015 #45

None of that means shit..... quickesst Jun 2015 #61

Thank you! redstateblues Jun 2015 #62

GOLDSTEIN!!! frylock Jun 2015 #72

+1! I remeber the Clinton years fondly. nt lunamagica Jun 2015 #111

One word zipplewrath Jun 2015 #48

Yes! TM99 Jun 2015 #56

Wow. The Reagan administration did nothing at all for 7 entire years at the start of the AIDS crisis Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #85

Of course, we agree as usual. TM99 Jun 2015 #107

Triangulation seems much less an indictment than revisionist history... LanternWaste Jun 2015 #88

You mean he didn't sign DOMA? zipplewrath Jun 2015 #90

You don't seem to be aware okasha Jun 2015 #110

Funny the Lesbian AF Colonel I knew didn't think so zipplewrath Jun 2015 #114

Since I can remember rock Jun 2015 #52

Fair question. H2O Man Jun 2015 #54

It was bad during. No 'becoming' required. Pft. n/t X_Digger Jun 2015 #60

Glass Steagal repeal Man from Pickens Jun 2015 #63

Remember the Telecommunications Act of 1996? Scuba Jun 2015 #73

Eight years of George W. Bush and... Mike Nelson Jun 2015 #76

Just in my opinion, the worst thing sadoldgirl Jun 2015 #84

There are ZERO perfect leftynyc Jun 2015 #93

I voted for him twice deutsey Jun 2015 #100

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There's never been a good Democratic Presidency (except for St. Roosevelt's) wyldwolf Jun 2015 #108

It's sad that so many people.. sendero Jun 2015 #109