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jeff47

(26,549 posts)
17. :facepalm:
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 11:51 AM
Jun 2015
Maybe the President thought that the trade agreement would take care of workers amply with its protections that he didn't foresee a need for unions to step in and "take care" of them.

Here's why this is an incredibly stupid argument.

TAA isn't new. TAA has been around for decades. And TAA has utterly failed.

To get it, you need to get your former employer to literally say "We shipped your job overseas". Almost no company will say that. Instead, they "outsourced their manufacturing to another company". That happens to be overseas. So no TAA for you.

If you happen to have been laid off by a company willing to admit they shipped your job overseas, "retraining" is not going to turn a 40-something factory worker into a software developer or some other high-paying field.

First, it takes a while to learn it - you really need a 4 year degree to get the job. Second, a company is going to take the brand-new 20-something they can abuse the fuck out of over a 44-year-old retrained worker.

So with TAA failing over and over and over again, perhaps claiming TAA is wonderful might be a tad moronic.

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Their greatest miscalculation was... Oilwellian Jun 2015 #1
Give em time. They weren't off by much. nt raouldukelives Jun 2015 #7
How about not passing bullshit agreements that cause job losses to begin with. onecaliberal Jun 2015 #2
and to add insult to injury rurallib Jun 2015 #3
^^^THAT^^^ onecaliberal Jun 2015 #5
Flipping burgers madokie Jun 2015 #6
Other miscalculations: Failure to correct the screwing we are taking in NAFTA, NCjack Jun 2015 #4
No, the miscalculation was cutting Medicare to fund TAA. jeff47 Jun 2015 #8
191 house GOP members voted to support the screwing! UCmeNdc Jun 2015 #9
Their constituents always vote for the R!!!!!!! djean111 Jun 2015 #12
WTF statement - " President Barack Obama and his Republican allies" NRaleighLiberal Jun 2015 #10
Right? Jesus Christ On A Pogo Stick... AzDar Jun 2015 #11
That's something I'd watch... nt abakan Jun 2015 #20
That headline tells you everything you need to know about why the TPP is a bad deal... truebrit71 Jun 2015 #14
there's the key miscalculation. nt magical thyme Jun 2015 #19
it's a perverse process for the advancement of this rag bigtree Jun 2015 #13
Obama Campaign Spokesperson, Josh Earnest calls it a "Legislative Snafu" repeatedly.... KoKo Jun 2015 #15
Job training for displaced workers, and other benefits fadedrose Jun 2015 #16
:facepalm: jeff47 Jun 2015 #17
That's it right there, I hope everyone reads your post. Rex Jun 2015 #18
K & R to that reaction alone. eom Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #21
I don't agree with it fadedrose Jun 2015 #22
So first unions were evil for killing the deal jeff47 Jun 2015 #23
I remember unions fadedrose Jun 2015 #24
Yep, your entire point is "unions bad!!!!" jeff47 Jun 2015 #27
No, not bad fadedrose Jun 2015 #29
Bingo! RiverLover Jun 2015 #25
I admire the honesty. one big reason the republicans and the president want TPP is to bust unions Doctor_J Jun 2015 #28
Putting lipstick on a pig does not change the nature of the pig. n/t Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #26
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