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In reply to the discussion: Just a word or two about Bernie and civil rights/social justice [View all]1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)41. Okay ... you are clearly unable/unwilling to understand what I am talking about ...
probably, because you are taking what I am saying, sprinkling on your (intentional or unintentional) misinterpretation and reacting to that misinterpretation.
I don't get it at all. Do you think white people who are fighting for equal rights are telling you to be subservient?
The subset of people that you hold out as "fighting for equal rights", are not the folks I am referencing ... if you cannot/will not see that the economic primacy argument IS NOT "fighting for equal rights" ... but rather, a fight for income equality, that ignores what is most proximate to the denial of rights of a bunch of folks; then, I cannot help you, and will no longer try.
What if every time I spoke of a PoC I used quotations? Would that not give you pause?
Actually, no ... because it would communicate that you are questioning whether the grouping to which you are referring are, in fact, PoC. My use of the quotation marks indicates my questioning how anyone calling themselves liberal (or progressive) can subordinate the social equality interests of PoC (and other historically marginalized groups), in favor of economic equality primacy.
It is your definition only that casts liberals as not caring about social justice.
Note: I have not said; nor, would I ever say, that liberals don't care about social justice ... BUT, I have said, and am saying, that a subset of liberals (whom I designate by use of quotation marking the term) care MORE about economic equality than social equality ... AND that this subset of liberals, also, tend to be the LEAST effected by the lack of social equality.
Liberals are proud to be liberal. And being liberal does NOT include accepting moderate Republican economic policy.
True, on both counts.
And whether you can't seem to find one of the hundreds of posts does not change the fact that they have been all over DU for the past month and a half. And that is what cali is speaking to.
Or, you could post a couple of these hundreds of offending posts ... but, I suspect, you will not because it would be made clear (just like in the above, "It is your definition only that casts liberals as not caring about social justice"
Your issues with her seem to be tainting your ability to be objective.
I have no particular issues with Cali (though I do disagree with her ... a lot) ... it is the frequent false narrative that I have an issue with.
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Let's look at some Democrats who voted for DOMA: Paul Wellstone. People adore him as a
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2015
#6
But still it is this cordoning off of minority rights as a separate from the rights of others.
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2015
#20
Once again, a shining example of "liberals" ignoring what PoC (and others) are saying/have said ...
1StrongBlackMan
Jun 2015
#8
Wow. I can't believe that posts about Sanders record of fighting for equality for ALL
cui bono
Jun 2015
#33
Okay ... you are clearly unable/unwilling to understand what I am talking about ...
1StrongBlackMan
Jun 2015
#41
He has addressed the current issues repeatedly. He spoke up clearly about the injustices
cali
Jun 2015
#14
Bernie sees everything through an economic lens. He's minimized social justice in two interviews
KittyWampus
Jun 2015
#19
Easily disproven that he has a long held passionate belief in civil rights and social justice
cali
Jun 2015
#23
He doesn't get it and you don't either, then. It's about his viewing things primarily and solely
KittyWampus
Jun 2015
#24
he's done far more than just talk about it- so yeah, you are not being honest, kitty
cali
Jun 2015
#25