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1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
41. Okay ... you are clearly unable/unwilling to understand what I am talking about ...
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 01:32 PM
Jun 2015

probably, because you are taking what I am saying, sprinkling on your (intentional or unintentional) misinterpretation and reacting to that misinterpretation.

I don't get it at all. Do you think white people who are fighting for equal rights are telling you to be subservient?


The subset of people that you hold out as "fighting for equal rights", are not the folks I am referencing ... if you cannot/will not see that the economic primacy argument IS NOT "fighting for equal rights" ... but rather, a fight for income equality, that ignores what is most proximate to the denial of rights of a bunch of folks; then, I cannot help you, and will no longer try.

What if every time I spoke of a PoC I used quotations? Would that not give you pause?


Actually, no ... because it would communicate that you are questioning whether the grouping to which you are referring are, in fact, PoC. My use of the quotation marks indicates my questioning how anyone calling themselves liberal (or progressive) can subordinate the social equality interests of PoC (and other historically marginalized groups), in favor of economic equality primacy.

It is your definition only that casts liberals as not caring about social justice.


Note: I have not said; nor, would I ever say, that liberals don't care about social justice ... BUT, I have said, and am saying, that a subset of liberals (whom I designate by use of quotation marking the term) care MORE about economic equality than social equality ... AND that this subset of liberals, also, tend to be the LEAST effected by the lack of social equality.

Liberals are proud to be liberal. And being liberal does NOT include accepting moderate Republican economic policy.


True, on both counts.

And whether you can't seem to find one of the hundreds of posts does not change the fact that they have been all over DU for the past month and a half. And that is what cali is speaking to.


Or, you could post a couple of these hundreds of offending posts ... but, I suspect, you will not because it would be made clear (just like in the above, "It is your definition only that casts liberals as not caring about social justice&quot the posts do not, actually, say what you would have them saying.

Your issues with her seem to be tainting your ability to be objective.


I have no particular issues with Cali (though I do disagree with her ... a lot) ... it is the frequent false narrative that I have an issue with.

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Thank you Cali Kalidurga Jun 2015 #1
KnR SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #2
K&R Scuba Jun 2015 #3
This native Vermonter thanks you for setting the record straight. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #4
This is why we favor Bernie! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #5
Let's look at some Democrats who voted for DOMA: Paul Wellstone. People adore him as a Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #6
I called it a civil rights issue. I always have. I refer to LGBT rights. cali Jun 2015 #7
But still it is this cordoning off of minority rights as a separate from the rights of others. Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #20
Once again, a shining example of "liberals" ignoring what PoC (and others) are saying/have said ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #8
Do you ever get tired of just pounding your head against a brick wall? leftofcool Jun 2015 #10
Nope ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #16
I'm starting to wonder whether ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #22
It's the result of baseless accusations and 'concern' about Sanders. cui bono Jun 2015 #34
Really? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #38
You're not a stupid person and you are on DU a lot. cui bono Jun 2015 #40
Then PM a couple to me ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #42
do elaborate. how is this ignoring what PoC are saying? cali Jun 2015 #12
The explanation is simple. Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #15
Wow. I can't believe that posts about Sanders record of fighting for equality for ALL cui bono Jun 2015 #33
Please stop ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #37
What's the point of using that hyperbole? cui bono Jun 2015 #39
Okay ... you are clearly unable/unwilling to understand what I am talking about ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #41
I understand the difference between social and economic. cui bono Jun 2015 #45
Really ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #47
That thought was about the general population, not limited to PoC. cui bono Jun 2015 #49
Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #50
cali, You said just a word or two... pangaia Jun 2015 #9
Recommended. H2O Man Jun 2015 #11
I will vote for him heaven05 Jun 2015 #13
He has addressed the current issues repeatedly. He spoke up clearly about the injustices cali Jun 2015 #14
yep heaven05 Jun 2015 #29
Perfectly said BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #36
Kick and R. Great post. BeanMusical Jun 2015 #17
K & R L0oniX Jun 2015 #18
Bernie sees everything through an economic lens. He's minimized social justice in two interviews KittyWampus Jun 2015 #19
Easily disproven that he has a long held passionate belief in civil rights and social justice cali Jun 2015 #23
He doesn't get it and you don't either, then. It's about his viewing things primarily and solely KittyWampus Jun 2015 #24
he's done far more than just talk about it- so yeah, you are not being honest, kitty cali Jun 2015 #25
I think he knows that the harder fight is economic justice Babel_17 Jun 2015 #31
So you didn't even read the op, much less the linked article Doctor_J Jun 2015 #32
Not if you look at his record and his actions. cui bono Jun 2015 #35
Did you see the interview with Katie Couric? Admiral Loinpresser Jun 2015 #51
Thats much better,,,,,,,,, Cryptoad Jun 2015 #21
Does not need to explain away his record, it stands up, and that's rare (nt) Babel_17 Jun 2015 #26
it's not clear who this person (or the op) is debating or refuting bigtree Jun 2015 #27
I'm sorry, but your constant donning of martyr's attire is a bituch. cali Jun 2015 #43
now you're just being abusive - even though I took my time to write this thoughtful response to you bigtree Jun 2015 #44
K&R+++++++++++++++++++ newfie11 Jun 2015 #28
No question. His record is excellent on these issues. MineralMan Jun 2015 #30
Nicely written and covers it all. thanks. SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #46
Kick and rec. hifiguy Jun 2015 #48
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