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LiberalLovinLug

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71. How can candidates not be sued for this?

Wed Jun 17, 2015, 02:46 PM

Jun 2015

It seems like all a musician can do is file a cease and desist order AFTER the fact. And the sleazeballs on the right know it. The Don has his money shot, forever ensconced into the media circus. ...Oh The damage done....

As a visual artist, no matter if I sell a painting or not, its image is still copywrited with me. If I saw some company use it as a background for an ad or something without asking me first, I could sue them for copywrite infringement. Why is it different for music?

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Neil Young is a longtime supporter of Bernie Sanders. Trump's use of song was not authorized. [View all] think Jun 2015 OP

Republicans are always stealing intellectual property for their campaigns. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #1

Yep. The GOP are repeat offenders in stealing IP. They keep doing it over and over again. /nt think Jun 2015 #2

That's only because they suck. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #56

That's because they have no "intellectual" ANYTHING of their own! George II Jun 2015 #35

+1,000 malaise Jun 2015 #49

They seem to have a problem with copyright laws. liberal N proud Jun 2015 #50

And it's funny because of their usual stances on "other people's" money or property treestar Jun 2015 #58

Cons always steal, everything. They are criminals by definition, all of them. randys1 Jun 2015 #3

That would make a wonderful compilation album! KamaAina Jun 2015 #4

They NEVER learn, do they? hifiguy Jun 2015 #23

It is not really about learning in my opinion - they just do not care. It is a variant of IOKIYAR. xocet Jun 2015 #34

After all the air we breathe is free (so far). Why shouldn't music of the airwaves be free as well? sorechasm Jun 2015 #47

And below minimum wage at that. padfun Jun 2015 #77

Hilarious! Trump should be sued. JaneyVee Jun 2015 #5

After Neil wins his Donald suit, then I'd have him give all benefits to Bernie! drynberg Jun 2015 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author olddots Jun 2015 #6

Can Neil Young force Trump to stop & apologize? irisblue Jun 2015 #7

His attorney will undoubtedly write a "cease-and-desist" letter gratuitous Jun 2015 #8

Why can I play the song at a bar (after paying ascap or bmi) but not at a rally? nt Logical Jun 2015 #13

They are not paying anyone for it. LiberalArkie Jun 2015 #14

I bet the campaign has a full blown ascap and bmi contract already. nt Logical Jun 2015 #17

There are different categories. Like a contract for music on hold, club music and then there are LiberalArkie Jun 2015 #25

OK, thanks. nt Logical Jun 2015 #27

The company I used to work for had a contract from Muzak for music on hold, and a contract from them LiberalArkie Jun 2015 #33

No jberryhill Jun 2015 #32

No BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #75

Well, go tell ASCAP that then.... jberryhill Jun 2015 #76

No doubt. Ann and Nancy Wilson reacted immediately hifiguy Jun 2015 #21

Dropkick Murphys to Scott Walker: 'We Literally Hate You' . PeaceNikki Jun 2015 #38

LOL. I remember that. polly7 Jun 2015 #48

Again, like a childish game, they do it then say "oopsie". glinda Jun 2015 #9

Purposeful and arrogant. polly7 Jun 2015 #10

Thanks to Neil Young, one of my favorites. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #11

Do you have to have permission to play the song? Or if you pay ASCAP and BMI can you just use it? nt Logical Jun 2015 #12

Depends on your contract with ASCAP/BMI and their contract with the artist jeff47 Jun 2015 #69

It should be fair (legal) for those whose IP has been used without permission douggg Jun 2015 #15

Maybe Neil Young, Chrissie Hynde, Peter Gabriel and others who have their songs "misused"... cascadiance Jun 2015 #19

Some repub swiped one of hifiguy Jun 2015 #29

Rush Limbaugh has used "My City Was Gone" as bumper music for years. rdmtimp Jun 2015 #37

So ol' Limpballs is funding lefty charities as a result. hifiguy Jun 2015 #39

She is. But it still sucks. The music alone gives the Limbaugh program a greater sense of credence Enthusiast Jun 2015 #59

They should get together and have a giant concert to raise funds for Bernie's campaign. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #60

Republicans keep doing this, which is so stupid because they get a few moments of music and Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #16

And they never actually listen to the lyrics. smokey nj Jun 2015 #28

For all Neil Young lovers Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #18

I have no doubt that Neil has very good lawyers hifiguy Jun 2015 #20

Do these idiots ever listen to the lyrics of the songs they use? frylock Jun 2015 #22

Didn't New Jersey briefly consider using "Born to Run" as its state song? RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #31

Sue the douche bag !!!! ruffburr Jun 2015 #24

Sue him for copyright infringement. PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #26

Republicans and campaigns songs. 1980's to now. underpants Jun 2015 #30

''A kinder, gentler machine-gun hand.'' Octafish Jun 2015 #36

Well, unfortunately he also wrote it for the anti-choice movement. (intentionally or not) MH1 Jun 2015 #66

This message was self-deleted by its author deutsey Jun 2015 #68

Good. A law suit. lonestarnot Jun 2015 #40

This Note's For You lovemydog Jun 2015 #41

Seems I remember similar incidents. Elmer S. E. Dump Jun 2015 #42

Neil Young is an American treasure. nt NewSystemNeeded Jun 2015 #43

I think he's a Canadian treasure treestar Jun 2015 #61

That's a fact. And he is appreciated world wide. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #62

Trump is a low life POS thief. JEB Jun 2015 #44

Both Peter Gabriel and Rush issued cease and desist orders to Rush Limbaugh ms liberty Jun 2015 #45

I laughed when I heard he had used the song SCantiGOP Jun 2015 #46

I would love to see Neil Young show up to some Bernie campaign rallies to perform that song Bjorn Against Jun 2015 #51

Of course Neil Young is a long time Bernie supporter... cui bono Jun 2015 #52

Oh yeah. He might very well be my favorite living musician. raouldukelives Jun 2015 #65

Everybody knows Trump is nowhere. moondust Jun 2015 #53

This is actually kind of amusing that he used that song, though. Spider Jerusalem Jun 2015 #54

They never listen to the lyrics. Nor do they ever research the artist's political leanings. smokey nj Jun 2015 #55

So Trump got some good publicity for Bernie! Lol! Thanks Donald. sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #57

Maybe he could borrow the tune by India Arie, "I Am Not My Hair" aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2015 #63

Bernie! (and Neil!) AzDar Jun 2015 #64

Another example of a dimwit GOPer not understanding (or caring about) what the song means deutsey Jun 2015 #67

Maybe he should switch to gospel... Spirochete Jun 2015 #70

How can candidates not be sued for this? LiberalLovinLug Jun 2015 #71

For a lot of reasons jberryhill Jun 2015 #78

Good info treestar Jun 2015 #79

That's part of a deal YouTube had to make jberryhill Jun 2015 #80

Should an artist be able to turn down a job because he doesn't Yupster Jun 2015 #81

An artist is not in general business to the public jberryhill Jun 2015 #82

I was just thinking of playing music at a rally, not actually forcing someone to appear Yupster Jun 2015 #83

As a general practical matter... jberryhill Jun 2015 #84

Thanks for that detailed answer! LiberalLovinLug Jun 2015 #85

"Something is wrong with the legal status quo on that" jberryhill Jun 2015 #86

I was just listening to Mr. Soul Go Vols Jun 2015 #73

Sue his ass.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #74