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Nuclear Unicorn

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20. Well, there is what candidates promise and then there is how they actually conduct themselves.

Reply to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #19)

Wed Jun 17, 2015, 04:41 PM

Jun 2015

Two candidates can promise the same thing but if one has a career of prevarication, triangulation and flip-flopping that candidate is useless as an elected official. Simply put, their word means nothing.

So choosing the prevaricator over the idealist simply because the prevaricator is more (in)famous is useless. In fact, in the long run I think it will do more harm than good because then the entire party becomes tarnished and that is the sort of name recognition you absolutely DON'T want in future elections.

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I don't see the value in polls -- pre-primary -- that gauge candidates against the other party [View all] Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 OP

Living in California makes primaries a useless sport. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #1

We really need to fix the primary calander. My solution is Exilednight Jun 2015 #4

I would like to see all states hold the primaries on the same day. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #14

That would give a huge advantage to the candidate Exilednight Jun 2015 #15

The existing system already does that. People who don't win one of the early primaries are doomed. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #16

You don't think there's value in knowing which one of our candidates does best in the GE? AFAIC, Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #2

I have no faith in those poles. Anyone who wins the Exilednight Jun 2015 #6

Like I said, that seems to be popular thought on BU. Above ground (in the real world), gauging.... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #8

Yes I do dismiss them. 6 weeks out from the first Exilednight Jun 2015 #11

Well, alrighty then. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #12

"You don't think there's value in knowing which one of our candidates does best in the GE?" Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #13

The "full weight of the party" will align long before we get to the GE. Your line of thinking just Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #17

I don't see your Dean/Kiucinich comparison as valid. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #18

Think for a bit. I have confidence you can get it. You're arguing "values" over "name recognition". Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #19

Well, there is what candidates promise and then there is how they actually conduct themselves. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #20

As a lifelong Democrat. I want to win. Whoever offers the best chance of doing that gets my.... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #23

By the way -- I'd like to take a moment to say Thank-you for the civil discourse. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #22

Recommended. H2O Man Jun 2015 #3

The polls are used to sway public opinion. Avalux Jun 2015 #5

And according to post #2 they look like they work. Exilednight Jun 2015 #7

Including the polls about "Feeling the Bern" in New Hampshire? Is that to "sway public opinion"? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #9

Of course it is. My statement applies to all polls. n/t Avalux Jun 2015 #10