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In reply to the discussion: Can Sanders or O'Malley win? Yes. How? Basic math. [View all]cascadiance
(19,537 posts)The one here basically just puts two pictures of the men side by side that weren't separately altered to make it appear that they were photographed together. This sort of juxtapositioing of people together in pictures happens all of the time when there aren't any direct photos of them together historically but when it is well known that they in fact worked together.
But if the Republicans are going to make Bernie Sanders in to a "socialist" / "communist" which in the Limbaugh / Glen Beck / etc. world is made to be equivalent when talking about all Soviets, then it seems only fair that we point out that there is MORE direct history to tie the Koch Brothers family to the more hard lined and dictatorial communist leaders in Joseph Stalin when his father arguably made most of his fortune working with Stalin then. I refuse to step back and let the propaganda machine mow down someone like Sanders who has a more philosophical leaning towards DEMOCRATIC socialism that Joseph Stalin and his dictatorial compatriots in the Soviet Union were at war with and killed when he was in power (the Trotskyists, etc.). They need to be told the full story of what happened back in the Soviet Union then, and the different forces at work, and where real socialist philosophy was being practiced and where it wasn't, so that the term "socialism" doesn't become a term that is being used like "liberal" as painting someone as evil the way the propaganda machine does today.
If it takes something like pointing out how the Koch brothers' family were tied to the worse parts of what has been called "socialism" back in the Soviet Union, or for that matter how the Bush family's heritage is tied back to their ancestors help fund Adolf Hitler during WWII, then so be it, if the threat is that they are going to play this game of association with someone like Bernie.
As I said, I wasn't aware that they were compositing pictures of FDR with Stalin to create the first photo that does seem manipulative to me, but the second photo is not manipulative in that it doesn't try to manipulate photos of Stalin on to someone else's body at all. It just shows two photos of the real people composited together, in a photo that looks pretty obvious that it could be one composited on top of a different background in each case anyway too. The second was just trying to draw pictures of both individuals together to show how they were working together then, not that they were at the same event together as the first photo shows.
And as I note, just having the photos put together doesn't take away anything from the facts of their history of working together. Those who would defend the Koch brothers history here and not take exception to someone like Bernie being called a "socialist" as a pejorative I wonder where their loyalties lie.