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JonLP24

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22. It depends on how the message is sent
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 07:58 PM
Jun 2015

and words used -- I think it is important that the message is clear.

On capitalism I actually prefer a mixed economy (Keynesian) rather than a free market, laissez-faire, "tickle-down" economy. I think most Americans agree with that approach but "income redistribution" turns into "class warfare". Think need to be clear on what it is we oppose but few people are fans of the oligarchy.

Based on this you have 54% that favor "income redistribution"
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http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/there-are-few-libertarians-but-many-americans-have-libertarian-views/

A thing like "war on woman" isn't specific to what they're referring to. Unfortunately those with anti-choice views are more likely to be a single-issue voter than one who is pro-choice so it is a little tricky how much on the forefront you'd want though it is important to 45% of voters. Then a situations with say a low-information voters hears "war on woman" around a co-worker or something where a partisan woman Republican (like a Laura Inghram) who Democrats have just about 55%-60% advantage -- I don't know what she would say but it would be like a confirmation bias.

I do think it is important to take stances on the issues and highlight the opponent's differences in a way that is clear. Saying "war" could distract from that. In any case, I found some polling though not clear if they asked "War on woman" just seems the poll asked if they believed there was a "wide-scale effort to limit women's reproductive choices"

https://kaiserfamilyfoundation.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/8315-f.pdf

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kicking this. Hiraeth Jun 2015 #1
April 30, 2012. (A point of info to clarify this is not a stump speech.) Luminous Animal Jun 2015 #2
He writes about this sort of stuff in "Outsider in the House." joshcryer Jun 2015 #5
A bit confused. Who is throwing out a canard. Luminous Animal Jun 2015 #6
Oh, sorry, just musing to myself. joshcryer Jun 2015 #7
I've already read some of that here madokie Jun 2015 #9
Yep, it's here. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #11
I've started concentrating on who it is that is spreading the shit and started madokie Jun 2015 #12
Your way is probably much better. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #15
Sometimes a person just has to do what a person has to do madokie Jun 2015 #16
I think people would like to see some info about it on his website or hear him speak about it more bettyellen Jun 2015 #24
You can look at his record JonLP24 Jun 2015 #14
Ah, I thought he might have gotten shit about his talk in Wisconsin and course corrected. bettyellen Jun 2015 #19
More: beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #3
K & R. appalachiablue Jun 2015 #4
Its as much for my grand daughter madokie Jun 2015 #8
K&R. On every issue, Bernie Sanders is on the moral highground. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #10
I don't think it's helpful to use "war against woman" for round 2 JonLP24 Jun 2015 #13
Why would supporting women's equality backfire- and with who? bettyellen Jun 2015 #18
I mean the slogan JonLP24 Jun 2015 #20
Well the word abortion is even more taboo and it sucks for us.... bettyellen Jun 2015 #21
It depends on how the message is sent JonLP24 Jun 2015 #22
Thanks - yeah the framing of it has been hard - pro- abortion has become a taboo bettyellen Jun 2015 #23
The first two sentences (political calculus) I'm not sure what you mean JonLP24 Jun 2015 #27
I'm sure that VT electing its first female governor in 1985 Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #17
Recommend. nt Zorra Jun 2015 #25
rec bigtree Jun 2015 #26
Feminist Bell Hooks.... pantsonfire Apr 2016 #28
Thanks for the link and the bump! Hiraeth Apr 2016 #29
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