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CreekDog

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54. that is an unfathomable loss

Thu Jun 18, 2015, 11:59 PM

Jun 2015

but don't put guilt on us to get us to stop talking about this tragedy right now.

talking about it is not wrong.

talking about how to stop it is not wrong.

not now and not tomorrow and not next week.

i would not go to the funeral or the wake or a gathering and speak about something that was not welcome.

but this is the public square. just as sure as Rudy Giuliani is saying right now that we can't know what motivated the killer, we are here and everywhere to set the record straight.

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Gun advocates don't just oppose gun control and discussions of gun control [View all] CreekDog Jun 2015 OP

Oh, yeah. Like around here. Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #1

Man with a gun inspired user name, comments. Hoyt Jun 2015 #9

Tell us the real reason you want guns restricted. eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #55

Why don't you post a link and I'll tell you why it's BS. Hoyt Jun 2015 #56

Why don't you just tell us? eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #57

It's in your court gun lover. Go for it. Hoyt Jun 2015 #58

Oooooh, now it's gun lover? GGJohn Jun 2015 #59

Hoyt. I heard a lot of "______ lover" when I was young. Use a different smear. nt Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #65

Still applicable today, especially for people who have a gun reference in their user name. Hoyt Jun 2015 #68

The word I heard was not "Gun." So drop it. Nt Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #70

your screen name is about a gun CreekDog Jun 2015 #72

NRA is anti-liberal and the organization has been particularly disgusting about Obama Johonny Jun 2015 #2

Its all about the 'business' of guns, elleng Jun 2015 #3

It's a conspiracy I tell you! TampaAnimusVortex Jun 2015 #4

I didn't call it a conspiracy, but nice try CreekDog Jun 2015 #14

Yep deathrind Jun 2015 #5

And DU is loaded with 'em. Call Me Wesley Jun 2015 #6

Gun love is ugly. hunter Jun 2015 #7

About the ugliest, most misbegotten "love" there is.... villager Jun 2015 #26

The only people I know who won't allow a discussion on guns is Gun Control Reform Activism group. Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #8

Drop the mic pintobean Jun 2015 #10

*thud* Lizzie Poppet Jun 2015 #11

That is a safe haven. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #15

that's a discussion forum for gun control advocacy CreekDog Jun 2015 #16

Bazinga Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #18

by the way, it's funny you mention this, because it was gun advocates who CreekDog Jun 2015 #20

We just follow the SOP Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #76

you speak for all gun advocates? CreekDog Jun 2015 #77

Of course not Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #79

Bingo! nt Mojorabbit Jun 2015 #52

The GCRA Group allows gun humpers to post on DU, in the GC & RKBA Group. Electric Monk Jun 2015 #60

Um, GCRA is the Johnny-come-lately (and a decidedly less active group, at that) friendly_iconoclast Jun 2015 #78

Recycled cartoons at that Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #80

How dare you! Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #67

Right - because gun manufacturers really give a shit about what an obscure web site thinks hack89 Jun 2015 #12

well I didn't say *one* website CreekDog Jun 2015 #17

ok. nt hack89 Jun 2015 #19

Is it too soon? Or too late? gratuitous Jun 2015 #13

I grieve for DU as well as for the victims families in Charleston... CTyankee Jun 2015 #21

You've got to be kidding. pintobean Jun 2015 #22

And that, is the unvarnished truth. beevul Jun 2015 #23

And here you are again... CTyankee Jun 2015 #24

Well, it's the same as "climate deniers" swarming out of the woodwork after each weather disaster villager Jun 2015 #27

well, that is a global catastrophe but this is a personal tragedy and I really feel CTyankee Jun 2015 #28

Of course not. But the need for apologetics is instantaneous with that bunch. villager Jun 2015 #30

stop it. stop it right now. Decency commands us to mourn the dead and comfort the CTyankee Jun 2015 #31

Yes. But I'm agreeing with you. I'm talking about the gun folks. villager Jun 2015 #35

I'm pretty upset right now...yeah, I get that...you nailed it "with blood still wet on CTyankee Jun 2015 #37

I couldn't believe they were doing the jr. high school "gunz is great!" snark routine *last night* villager Jun 2015 #39

I had a family member killed in gun violence so I know what happens to families in CTyankee Jun 2015 #41

I've known three people -- one man, one woman, one student villager Jun 2015 #43

I truly believe my niece's death due to gun violence killed my brother... CTyankee Jun 2015 #48

Oh God. I am so sorry, CTyankee.... villager Jun 2015 #50

sorry. this event brings it back to me... CTyankee Jun 2015 #51

that is an unfathomable loss CreekDog Jun 2015 #54

I must not have gotten the memo... beevul Jun 2015 #34

no,it's called "decent interval." The political arguments can come later... CTyankee Jun 2015 #38

Well, I haven't commented alt all, except... beevul Jun 2015 #40

well, then, join me in respectful silence and in our common humanity to mourn CTyankee Jun 2015 #45

Thats more or less what I've been doing all day. beevul Jun 2015 #47

OK. leave it at that, will you? Enough. CTyankee Jun 2015 #49

9 African Americans were killed by a white supremecist and you want us to be silent? CreekDog Jun 2015 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #66

Really? GGJohn Jun 2015 #61

I didn't and I don't blame anyone but the shooter for what happened. CTyankee Jun 2015 #63

Ok, that's more than fair. eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #64

I agree with that sentiment CreekDog Jun 2015 #75

You mean people don't support governmental policy... krispos42 Jun 2015 #25

Can't you give it a rest, Krispos and let the mourners mourn? CTyankee Jun 2015 #29

Why don't you ask pintobean Jun 2015 #33

Again, the unvarnished truth. beevul Jun 2015 #36

Are you saying the same thing to the OPers in GD? krispos42 Jun 2015 #44

I've only been responding to posts about this issue. I started none and wouldn't. CTyankee Jun 2015 #46

I want gun humpers to be seen for what they really are: COWARDS Skittles Jun 2015 #62

They've also been vehemently lobbying to suppress any government research countryjake Jun 2015 #32

See, thats hard to buy... beevul Jun 2015 #42

The dumbest sort of lobbyists: they don't even get paid. alcibiades_mystery Jun 2015 #69

No matter how synthetic, hatred can never double for compassion. Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #71

For most, progun talk is simply about maintaining a civil liberty that has seen many restrictions. aikoaiko Jun 2015 #73

One of the NRA talking assholes said it was the Rev-Senators fault for his own death. Rex Jun 2015 #74