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A HERETIC I AM

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38. Are you seriously going to suggest that I have to fear the Taliban or Iraqi militants?

Thu Jun 18, 2015, 11:17 PM

Jun 2015

Or are you suggesting that they are being successful against drones?

Either way, At this point, I don't give a fuck anymore. There is a very good reason why I don't post in your favorite group. You people bore the living fuck out of me.

Fine. You like guns and I am sure you are a law abiding citizen. Terrific. Goodonya, yank!

I have no desire to change the second ammendment, but I do understand context and the times in which it was written. The constitution ALSO does not leave a provision for a standing Army, ONLY a Navy, and arguably the Marine Corps. It sure as hell doesn't call for an Air Force, which personally, I think should be done away with, but I digress. The fact that there is no provision for keeping a standing Army is precisely WHY the 2A was written the way it was, yet how many of the guys you know down at the range are members of the National Guard or a "Well Regulated Militia"?

"Why don't you tell that to the Taliban? Or the Iraqi militants?"

Why the ever living fuck would I bother? Why the ever living fuck would you even contemplate suggesting such an asinine thing? You think I speak Arabic? Or Pashto? You think I give two flying fucks about those people?

For fucks sake. What a stupid thing to say.

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You can't reason with the pro gun crowd. [View all] davishenderson265 Jun 2015 OP

They are, for all intents and purposes, "climate deniers." villager Jun 2015 #1

Only because their obsession makes them incapable of rational discourse. Warpy Jun 2015 #2

Sadly agree. It's like debating s flat-earther, Tbagger, or one devoid of compassion for anyone else Hoyt Jun 2015 #3

Oh Hoyt. GGJohn Jun 2015 #8

Hoyt is absolutley correct Skittles Jun 2015 #13

Naw, he's not. GGJohn Jun 2015 #15

gun humpers are sickening Skittles Jun 2015 #18

WRONG!!!! GGJohn Jun 2015 #24

too bad they cannot ALL go Skittles Jun 2015 #28

+1000. GGJohn Jun 2015 #30

A few days ago, you would have been calling him a law-abiding gun owner. Hoyt Jun 2015 #104

And, once again you fail- he was already a convicted felon and in illegal possession of a gun friendly_iconoclast Jun 2015 #118

Not if I knew what his background was, like being a substance abuser, GGJohn Jun 2015 #140

I would not consider you a responsible gun supporter. nt Logical Jun 2015 #136

Like I care what you think? eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #137

LOL, you responded. You are loving this story so you can say "look at me". nt Logical Jun 2015 #138

LOL, you're doing the same thing, GGJohn Jun 2015 #139

Selfish, greedy, shallow people. notadmblnd Jun 2015 #101

but LaPierre has a dream... madamesilverspurs Jun 2015 #4

^^^^^^^^excellent question^^^^^^^. To gun bumpers , are these or are these not pkdu Jun 2015 #76

Yes, they are HassleCat Jun 2015 #128

The only way we get change is a societal re branding. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2015 #5

shaming cowards is no easy feat Skittles Jun 2015 #22

Nope. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2015 #25

Huh? daleanime Jun 2015 #55

I was trying to convey Juicy_Bellows Jun 2015 #62

Can you translate that word salad for us? eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #59

In a nutshell - Juicy_Bellows Jun 2015 #65

Ok, thanks for clarifying that, GGJohn Jun 2015 #66

You bet - I wasn't intending to be obtuse. nt. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2015 #69

Very good point treestar Jun 2015 #90

I'm in the middle, and I find both sides unreasonable. Nt HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #6

Funny, GGJohn Jun 2015 #7

No, this is funny. truebluegreen Jun 2015 #9

While Jim Jefferies is a funny comedian, GGJohn Jun 2015 #10

He's an Aussie, fully understands most losers will do fine without their sick 'hobby.' Hoyt Jun 2015 #16

LOL. GGJohn Jun 2015 #27

Yeah, it appears all you care about. How much ammo do you keep on hand, again? Hoyt Jun 2015 #61

Appearances can be deceiving. GGJohn Jun 2015 #64

Just in case, what? Hoyt Jun 2015 #67

Just in case the ZOMBIES attack. LOLOLOLOL. GGJohn Jun 2015 #68

Insulting some 100 million people is really going to help One_Life_To_Give Jun 2015 #86

Not insulting them doesn't seem to help either. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #102

Building bridges and finding common ground. One_Life_To_Give Jun 2015 #106

That's a nice trite statement. How about making a real suggestion? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #108

UnBan Jeb Stuart LeMat Cavalry Blackpowder Pistol One_Life_To_Give Jun 2015 #125

So, you like guns. Just own it. nt truebluegreen Jun 2015 #19

Just own it? GGJohn Jun 2015 #31

It's a reason, an entirely selfish one, truebluegreen Jun 2015 #81

My personal firearms have fuck all to do with the greater good of society. GGJohn Jun 2015 #82

What a load of nonsense. A HERETIC I AM Jun 2015 #32

Wrong, the only real argument is the 2A, GGJohn Jun 2015 #33

And, as he points out, it can be changed. A HERETIC I AM Jun 2015 #35

Good luck with changing the 2A, GGJohn Jun 2015 #37

Are you seriously going to suggest that I have to fear the Taliban or Iraqi militants? A HERETIC I AM Jun 2015 #38

When I suggest asking the Taliban or the Iraqi's GGJohn Jun 2015 #39

Bullshit. A HERETIC I AM Jun 2015 #42

No bullshit, GGJohn Jun 2015 #44

How tiresome. Same old shit. Liberal Veteran Jun 2015 #120

Gun control advocates failed to get a new Federal Assault Weapons Ban to pass in ... spin Jun 2015 #57

Please quote me where I "suggest changing or doing away with the Second Amendment" A HERETIC I AM Jun 2015 #60

I may have misinterpreted your post. ... spin Jun 2015 #71

Something we often say when confronted with an opinion that fails to validate our own. LanternWaste Jun 2015 #97

And vis versa. eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #142

He sounds to me like he fully understands the issues for firearms. -none Jun 2015 #112

No, he doesn't. eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #143

Even the President of the United States appears to have given up. Paladin Jun 2015 #84

WTF? GGJohn Jun 2015 #85

Precisely the response I anticipated. Paladin Jun 2015 #96

Precisely the response I anticipated. GGJohn Jun 2015 #135

He should do it every single day. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #107

Yeah, this topic has been of interest to me for a long time... pipoman Jun 2015 #11

I want to understand something. lostnfound Jun 2015 #80

I really don't want anyone who can't count carrying a gun.... pipoman Jun 2015 #88

But with nearly one gun for every American man woman and child, aren't we there already? lostnfound Jun 2015 #93

who said anything about any of that? pipoman Jun 2015 #98

That sounds like a sensible idea. lostnfound Jun 2015 #148

Yes pipoman Jun 2015 #149

What is your solution? Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #12

How far do you think murders might drop without gun fanciers polluting society with the darn things? Hoyt Jun 2015 #20

How is a handgun ban working in England? Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #26

I'll tell you. When you go from 1 to 2, it's doubled. The only place we have 2 homicides is some Hoyt Jun 2015 #58

"The only place we have 2 homicides..." beevul Jun 2015 #74

Oh gee Hoyt, why don't you ask the citizens of England how well their GGJohn Jun 2015 #34

I don't believe that statistic regarding England. Maedhros Jun 2015 #117

they have excuses for stuff like this Skittles Jun 2015 #14

I don't know anyone who gets upset about penis analogies. NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #141

While the 2nd amendment supporters sadoldgirl Jun 2015 #17

It's nothing but a game to them gratuitous Jun 2015 #21

make a penis analogy joke Skittles Jun 2015 #23

Deliberately trying to upset people makes DU suck. beevul Jun 2015 #75

It's a hateathon. Anything goes. Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #111

Getting sick about here how much people love their guns. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #29

And for them, wheniwasincongress Jun 2015 #36

Correction: You got Guns Dogs to open a 3rd gun forum. We are engaging. Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #114

It's like religion. Facts are useless. nt valerief Jun 2015 #40

Even if you pass legislation there are so many guns in circulation I don't know how you... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #41

start confiscating them JI7 Jun 2015 #46

All three hundred million plus of them./NT DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #47

yes, it will take time but we need to get out of this backwardness JI7 Jun 2015 #48

I'm all for trying but I am not remotely optimistic... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #49

Who do you propose do that, specifically? Lizzie Poppet Jun 2015 #50

Start confiscating them how? EL34x4 Jun 2015 #54

You want to start a civil war? GGJohn Jun 2015 #70

Agreed Telcontar Jun 2015 #92

Forget all that. -none Jun 2015 #116

There are *lots* of drones in Afghanistan- and the Taliban is still there friendly_iconoclast Jun 2015 #119

The Taliban are still there in large part because we want them to be there as part of our excuse to -none Jun 2015 #124

Do You Really Sparhawk60 Jun 2015 #127

Blah, blah blah!!! We could say the same thing about the anti-gun crowd... Ghost in the Machine Jun 2015 #43

Declaring a desire to desire to jail large numbers of non-criminals, a la: friendly_iconoclast Jun 2015 #52

Exactly the point I was trying to make... Ghost in the Machine Jun 2015 #56

The subject has drawn lots of AntiLaPierres and AntiNugents friendly_iconoclast Jun 2015 #45

Agree. They are nuts. Arugula Latte Jun 2015 #51

I heard someone today say if Sandy Hook had happened while a Republican was president mountain grammy Jun 2015 #53

Not quite, Reagan sold and signed into law one of the must restrictive gun laws ever. aikoaiko Jun 2015 #91

I stand corrected, thank you. mountain grammy Jun 2015 #94

Had that discission with husband today marlakay Jun 2015 #63

I walk the streets of Sydney in the middle of the night...no fear Fairgo Jun 2015 #72

I'm enjoying London at all hours of the night, few police in view lebkuchen Jun 2015 #78

I've walked the streets of Chicago, Dallas, NYC Snow Leopard Jun 2015 #99

What does Joe Biden say? LeftOfWest Jun 2015 #73

Yes, since parents self-describing their children as "troubled" allow them access to guns. lebkuchen Jun 2015 #77

That is correct. It's like arguing with creationists. It's a no logic zone. DanTex Jun 2015 #79

I'll just ditto this. Phentex Jun 2015 #87

It is unwinnable unless you want a bloodbath of confiscation attempts. TampaAnimusVortex Jun 2015 #83

And the dumb thing there too is even if the victims have a gun treestar Jun 2015 #89

And they have the 2nd Amendment on their side. Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2015 #95

No, you can't. Sheldon Cooper Jun 2015 #100

You cannot force a gun on someone who doesn't want one HockeyMom Jun 2015 #103

It's almost as bad trying to reason with the anti gun crowd. ileus Jun 2015 #105

boy you called that right. mooseprime Jun 2015 #109

^^^This^^^ -none Jun 2015 #122

So then maybe they will all be dead when the shooting STOPS. N/T Stellar Jun 2015 #110

You're not supposed to reason with idiots you go around them and get whatever done you can. craigmatic Jun 2015 #113

"I can't reason you out of a position you didn't reason yourself into." reflection Jun 2015 #115

Of course not!! They think you are trying to take retread Jun 2015 #121

Theres a whole thread, 300 + posts, of examples of you guys trying to "reason"... beevul Jun 2015 #123

I don't know if the OP realized what his allies are like... Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #132

Depends HassleCat Jun 2015 #126

They're fundies, only in the Church of Gunz. hifiguy Jun 2015 #129

Is this Reasoning? "Gun humpers, selfish, greedy, shallow, cowards, Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #130

Guns are seen as a cure for male sexual dysfunction. Orsino Jun 2015 #131

Mostly by anti-gunners. N/T beevul Jun 2015 #133

that would be consistent with the numbers which show more men JI7 Jun 2015 #134

Its no different than trying to have a rational conversation with the snake handling fundamentalists etherealtruth Jun 2015 #144

That's rich coming from you. eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #145

Why, thank you! etherealtruth Jun 2015 #146

You're very welcome. eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #147