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vlyons

(10,252 posts)
10. I emphathize with your anger and pain
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 07:45 AM
Jun 2015

I'm a 68 yr white, retired female, and a Buddhist. I own a gun, a pistol, that I use to put sick animals on my llama ranch out of their pain, when they are dieing. I STRONGLY support sensible gun laws that keep guns out of the hands of crazy and violent people.

I just have one question: Why are you on a forum with racist hate-mongers? All they do is disrespect you and make you angry.

We have to channel our anger and rage about racism and gun violence towards the holy ideas of social and economic justice. And we're going to need very much energy to accomplish justice and sensible gun laws, because our government is corrupted by money. Our gov representatives - at all levels - has been bought and paid for by corporations and the monied oligarchs. (Am I telling you something that you don't already know?) They think that the acquisition of money is the highest of all virtues. And the more money you have, the more virtuous you are. They tell all sorts of lies, such as cutting taxes on corporations and the wealthy creates jobs, and that poor people are poor because of defective character and no ambition. They lie about climate change and its causes. Their only jobs program is the war industry. They see people as natural resources to plunder. College students are profit centers. Privitized charter schools and prisons are profit centers. And they want to privitize social security and the sell the post office to UPS. Basically privitize everything that isn't nailed down. To them, money ALWAYS is more important than people.
They are probably sociopaths to boot. Then they fear-monger people about Moslems, gays, immigrants, etc to get their vote.

For a very long time, we have tried to reason with them from economic arguments. But as a Buddhist, I see that the real problem is a moral issue. No, people are more important than the acquisition of wealth. It's an ethical issue. We have to get money out of politics.

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I am so damn mad this morning [View all] Coolest Ranger Jun 2015 OP
The most important issue here is the nine dead at the hands of an avowed racist.... marble falls Jun 2015 #1
why is your first comment about guns? Fast Walker 52 Jun 2015 #5
I am still upset about the events and managed to send the reply before I was finished or edited..... marble falls Jun 2015 #9
OK, thanks Fast Walker 52 Jun 2015 #25
That idiot Chuck Todd TNNurse Jun 2015 #32
I learned racism at my grandfather's knee. Thank G*d that my step-father taught me empathy. marble falls Jun 2015 #36
Todd's reasoning: SCantiGOP Jun 2015 #41
Excellent rant, and I feel much the same way. Rhiannon12866 Jun 2015 #77
We need to insure all guns classykaren Jun 2015 #2
I agree. Fast Walker 52 Jun 2015 #4
That is an excellent idea. nt SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #37
The problem with the insuance angle, Snobblevitch Jun 2015 #40
Apparently his father did not buy/give him the weapon. He bought the weapon himself with his kelly1mm Jun 2015 #50
So someone steals your car and kills someone and you are responsible? Nt Logical Jun 2015 #55
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2015 #56
good lord. NM_Birder Jun 2015 #57
+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #74
K and R etherealtruth Jun 2015 #3
I'm freaking pissed too Fast Walker 52 Jun 2015 #6
The murder of 9 sheshe2 Jun 2015 #70
I wasn't equating, they are just two things that depressed me Fast Walker 52 Jun 2015 #78
The main purpose of a gun is to kill Sienna86 Jun 2015 #7
Well said. No need to apologize. n/t ms liberty Jun 2015 #8
I emphathize with your anger and pain vlyons Jun 2015 #10
The root cause of most of our problems is the bribe money we legally allow in our politics! Dustlawyer Jun 2015 #31
You obviously get the picture about money too vlyons Jun 2015 #52
the bible also says, NM_Birder Jun 2015 #62
Think of the Bible's genesis stories as metaphorical stories, not vlyons Jun 2015 #73
I totally agree, I live in Southeast Texas and feel your pain. Dustlawyer Jun 2015 #66
great conscience pricker heaven05 Jun 2015 #11
" do something about these extremist racist white people?" <Well, we had WWII. That wasn't enough jtuck004 Jun 2015 #12
Coolest Ranger, I'm sorry for your pain. jomin41 Jun 2015 #13
You have my heartfelt empathy, although I cannot imagine what Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #14
"but guess what the racist see, they only see the black part of me" Omaha Steve Jun 2015 #15
actually, most of 'DU' has been extremely supportive of sentiments like your own bigtree Jun 2015 #16
Agreed. rosesaylavee Jun 2015 #17
Well said! n/t Stellar Jun 2015 #18
No forgiveness needed for your rant. mnhtnbb Jun 2015 #19
The answer is simple - get out the vote! vlyons Jun 2015 #53
You have every right to rant. nruthie Jun 2015 #20
Free speech can be and has been weaponized in America. It needs to be disarmed. Hate radio and TV Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #21
Sources: Roof told police he almost didn't shoot church-goers 'because everyone was so nice to him' Hissyspit Jun 2015 #22
I don't even know how to react to that. SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #42
It tells you how 'carefully taught' he was to hate. mnhtnbb Jun 2015 #58
I agree with all your points add one more. gordianot Jun 2015 #23
I am late and have to run. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #24
I can't imgine what it is like to be a POC in this country. onecaliberal Jun 2015 #26
+1 LiberalLoner Jun 2015 #33
Maybe we've been too harsh on Rachel Dolezal. Today I identify with being black more than being.... marble falls Jun 2015 #34
I haven't commented on that. I can't fault her. onecaliberal Jun 2015 #38
Honestly, I can't either. It is such a strange thing these two "events" happened in such a small ... marble falls Jun 2015 #44
Me too. onecaliberal Jun 2015 #47
Just goes to show that "race" is not a real thing vlyons Jun 2015 #54
K & R!!!!! Thespian2 Jun 2015 #27
Racism. That is the problem. What to do with it is another. We were close to some of the answers jwirr Jun 2015 #28
There is only 1 way to overcome racism vlyons Jun 2015 #60
There is some truth to that statement. My own family is multi-racial. We have whites, Native jwirr Jun 2015 #61
Recently I had the misfortune of visiting the midwest. nightscanner59 Jun 2015 #68
Mad, disgusted, disheartened Gloria Jun 2015 #29
I am sick to my stomach Evergreen Emerald Jun 2015 #30
You're a human. You got rights to rant! Also,to me, you're absolute 110% right. TRoN33 Jun 2015 #35
Murderers nil desperandum Jun 2015 #39
I am so sorry for your pain Ranger. efilon Jun 2015 #43
Forgiveness? Would you settle for thanks? SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #45
This is wearing at my soul too, Coolest Ranger. Please go nurture your soul for a while. Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #46
To address one of your points 1939 Jun 2015 #48
Righteous rant. Nothing else to add riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #49
Yesterday one of my kids asked what percentage of white he is. lunasun Jun 2015 #51
Dear Coolest, I was thinking of you for some time last night, trying to sleep and read this now. freshwest Jun 2015 #59
There is no need to forgive you for your rant. Jamastiene Jun 2015 #63
Here's a fresh perspective Rafale Jun 2015 #64
. marym625 Jun 2015 #65
I am deeply saddened that I can't see a path forward. GitRDun Jun 2015 #67
I share your anger and your grief... enough is ENOUGH! secondwind Jun 2015 #69
PM me when you can. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #71
You have 151 Recs from people who share your pain. Honest. Hekate Jun 2015 #72
Make that 159 Iwillnevergiveup Jun 2015 #75
That vile creature looked like one of Hitler Youth Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2015 #76
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