Anybody else find it odd that Roof was arrested without incident?

[Igel]

34. Yeah, but if you go back that far you wind up

with Ethiopians and Somalis being defined as "Caucasian". Most S. Asians were also considered "Caucasian," but I'm not sure that most consider M. Ghandi as white as the driven snow. It was based on the S. Caucasus, anyway, Georgians and Azeris. Dear Dzhohar was a northerner.

Of course, we'll ignore the fact that Azeri and Turkish and the bearers are these languages are close cousins. Turks, of course, were not Caucasians. Nor were Hungarians. I guess Hungarians are people of color but Asian Indians are white?

It used to mean something different than just "white." The redefinition happened later, and along the way the Caucasians (those who lived in the Caucasus) were taken as inferior examples of Caucasians (which came to mean, with a few other traits involving hair, skull, and nasal fossa, "white&quot . The original Caucasians were assumed to have been driven out and Caucasian speakers supposedly moved in; Urartu, if I remember correctly, was a possible origin for them. The redefinition partially goes back to Bopp and Grimm and some of attempts to locate the Indo-European Urheimat in the Caucasis on the basis of reconstructed meaning and forms for words like "beech" and "salmon"; some of the redefinition occurred later in the 1800s.

Currently N. Caucasians are considered "dark skinned" or "swarthy" and discriminated against by Russians.