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jwirr

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28. Racism. That is the problem. What to do with it is another. We were close to some of the answers
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 09:43 AM
Jun 2015

in the 60s or we thought we were. We made some laws, stopped some of the blatant name calling, integrated some people of color into the mainstream, made some things accessible. There seemed to be hope that this would continue.

So what happened? I think the first thing that happened was the election of Reagan. He stepped up to defend racism in order to win the south. He went to Germany and visited the gravesite of one of Hitler's key advisers. He sent all the right dog whistles to set the progress on racism back decades.

It was also at this time that the Rs started dismantling both the New Deal and LBJ's war on poverty. They used propaganda to insist that the "users and takers" were the black people and though that was not true the white population wanted to believe that. The hatred was allowed to resurface in order to achieve political goals. And is still the main means of getting rid of social programs. Every goal the Rs have seems to have something to do with hating people of color. But I think that is just the lies used to achieve their goals not the actual intent of the Rs. The hatred that has led to such horrible violence is a side effect of their political tools.

Now the teabaggers are a different matter. They are the haters and that is their goal. They think they are fighting to preserve the white culture and in that they have allied with the white supremacist groups that have always been with us keeping the hate simmering underneath the 60s change. This group is dangerous in that they put racism and hatred into action. They are politically strong enough to field candidates who will follow their dictates. Just look at the list of candidates in the R party. Back in the 60s we recognized they were there but we had hoped that eventually they would die out. Unfortunately racism and hatred are learned behaviors.

And another nail in the coffin of the attempt to end racism and hatred is the churches. In the 60s many mainstream churches (at least in the north - don't know about the south) supported the civil rights movement even if it was in a more or less passive way. With the propaganda of the 80s many of these churches turned totally around and became the teachers of hate (see the TV preachers of the time). The spread their hate message as actual biblical truth. And unfortunately the MSM churches who do not agree with them remain silent thus allowing their own members to agree with what ever they want to agree with. Lack of leadership in churches on this issue is the main problem. I applaud Pope Francis for finally standing up.

There are many more institutional changes that helped to bring us to this point. But the thing we need to know is how to turn these haters around.

One thing that we saw in 2008 that could continue to bring the fight back into focus is the election of a black president. Yes his election brought the rats out of hiding but something else happened in that election - people of color voted. And that is the beginning of the end of hate politics.

And this is a perfect time for Christians to approach their church bodies and insist that they stand up for the true message of Christ - love. It can no longer set by and allow the kind of police violence against black men and children like we are seeing now. It can no longer set around and ignore either social or economic justice like we are seeing now. It can no longer set by and watch hate become the message of the church. If it does then it will lose its members because its message is totally useless.

We can also work like DU had done to end the reign of hate mongers on tv and radio. Glenn Beck is not longer mainstream, Limbaugh is finally losing his clout. We need to keep working to end this but unfortunately we are not winning in this fight. We have lost a lot of our progressive sources of information in the last years and this has got to stop. I am not sure what can be done but something has to be done.

IMO these are the some of the things that support racism and hatred and if we do not talk about them we are not going to be able to even control the situation let alone stop it.

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I am so damn mad this morning [View all] Coolest Ranger Jun 2015 OP
The most important issue here is the nine dead at the hands of an avowed racist.... marble falls Jun 2015 #1
why is your first comment about guns? Fast Walker 52 Jun 2015 #5
I am still upset about the events and managed to send the reply before I was finished or edited..... marble falls Jun 2015 #9
OK, thanks Fast Walker 52 Jun 2015 #25
That idiot Chuck Todd TNNurse Jun 2015 #32
I learned racism at my grandfather's knee. Thank G*d that my step-father taught me empathy. marble falls Jun 2015 #36
Todd's reasoning: SCantiGOP Jun 2015 #41
Excellent rant, and I feel much the same way. Rhiannon12866 Jun 2015 #77
We need to insure all guns classykaren Jun 2015 #2
I agree. Fast Walker 52 Jun 2015 #4
That is an excellent idea. nt SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #37
The problem with the insuance angle, Snobblevitch Jun 2015 #40
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good lord. NM_Birder Jun 2015 #57
+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #74
K and R etherealtruth Jun 2015 #3
I'm freaking pissed too Fast Walker 52 Jun 2015 #6
The murder of 9 sheshe2 Jun 2015 #70
I wasn't equating, they are just two things that depressed me Fast Walker 52 Jun 2015 #78
The main purpose of a gun is to kill Sienna86 Jun 2015 #7
Well said. No need to apologize. n/t ms liberty Jun 2015 #8
I emphathize with your anger and pain vlyons Jun 2015 #10
The root cause of most of our problems is the bribe money we legally allow in our politics! Dustlawyer Jun 2015 #31
You obviously get the picture about money too vlyons Jun 2015 #52
the bible also says, NM_Birder Jun 2015 #62
Think of the Bible's genesis stories as metaphorical stories, not vlyons Jun 2015 #73
I totally agree, I live in Southeast Texas and feel your pain. Dustlawyer Jun 2015 #66
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" do something about these extremist racist white people?" <Well, we had WWII. That wasn't enough jtuck004 Jun 2015 #12
Coolest Ranger, I'm sorry for your pain. jomin41 Jun 2015 #13
You have my heartfelt empathy, although I cannot imagine what Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #14
"but guess what the racist see, they only see the black part of me" Omaha Steve Jun 2015 #15
actually, most of 'DU' has been extremely supportive of sentiments like your own bigtree Jun 2015 #16
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Well said! n/t Stellar Jun 2015 #18
No forgiveness needed for your rant. mnhtnbb Jun 2015 #19
The answer is simple - get out the vote! vlyons Jun 2015 #53
You have every right to rant. nruthie Jun 2015 #20
Free speech can be and has been weaponized in America. It needs to be disarmed. Hate radio and TV Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #21
Sources: Roof told police he almost didn't shoot church-goers 'because everyone was so nice to him' Hissyspit Jun 2015 #22
I don't even know how to react to that. SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #42
It tells you how 'carefully taught' he was to hate. mnhtnbb Jun 2015 #58
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I am late and have to run. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #24
I can't imgine what it is like to be a POC in this country. onecaliberal Jun 2015 #26
+1 LiberalLoner Jun 2015 #33
Maybe we've been too harsh on Rachel Dolezal. Today I identify with being black more than being.... marble falls Jun 2015 #34
I haven't commented on that. I can't fault her. onecaliberal Jun 2015 #38
Honestly, I can't either. It is such a strange thing these two "events" happened in such a small ... marble falls Jun 2015 #44
Me too. onecaliberal Jun 2015 #47
Just goes to show that "race" is not a real thing vlyons Jun 2015 #54
K & R!!!!! Thespian2 Jun 2015 #27
Racism. That is the problem. What to do with it is another. We were close to some of the answers jwirr Jun 2015 #28
There is only 1 way to overcome racism vlyons Jun 2015 #60
There is some truth to that statement. My own family is multi-racial. We have whites, Native jwirr Jun 2015 #61
Recently I had the misfortune of visiting the midwest. nightscanner59 Jun 2015 #68
Mad, disgusted, disheartened Gloria Jun 2015 #29
I am sick to my stomach Evergreen Emerald Jun 2015 #30
You're a human. You got rights to rant! Also,to me, you're absolute 110% right. TRoN33 Jun 2015 #35
Murderers nil desperandum Jun 2015 #39
I am so sorry for your pain Ranger. efilon Jun 2015 #43
Forgiveness? Would you settle for thanks? SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #45
This is wearing at my soul too, Coolest Ranger. Please go nurture your soul for a while. Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #46
To address one of your points 1939 Jun 2015 #48
Righteous rant. Nothing else to add riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #49
Yesterday one of my kids asked what percentage of white he is. lunasun Jun 2015 #51
Dear Coolest, I was thinking of you for some time last night, trying to sleep and read this now. freshwest Jun 2015 #59
There is no need to forgive you for your rant. Jamastiene Jun 2015 #63
Here's a fresh perspective Rafale Jun 2015 #64
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I am deeply saddened that I can't see a path forward. GitRDun Jun 2015 #67
I share your anger and your grief... enough is ENOUGH! secondwind Jun 2015 #69
PM me when you can. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #71
You have 151 Recs from people who share your pain. Honest. Hekate Jun 2015 #72
Make that 159 Iwillnevergiveup Jun 2015 #75
That vile creature looked like one of Hitler Youth Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2015 #76
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