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nil desperandum

(654 posts)
39. Murderers
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 09:58 AM
Jun 2015

We are a nation of killers, we kill for money, we kill for race reasons, we kill for sex, we kill for drug turf, we kill gays, we kill blacks/whites/aisans/hispanics, indeed we kill for a wide variety of reasons and prejudices on a daily basis here in these United States. We are oddly enough statistically safer than ever before though when it comes to the odds of being murdered when compared to decades past...the 1970s were a time of murders counted in the 20s of thousands instead of the teens of thousands...not sure if that means we are getting better or just older as a society and our murderers are calming down.

We are also a nation with a large amount of racists, a nation where honest discussions of race can't take place without hyperbole and accusation.

I too am amazed that every mass shooting incident becomes a platform for both pro and anti-gun hyperbole. Instead of a difficult and honest discussion about what may or may not be realistic with respect to addressing concerns over this type of violence.

Whether 9 blacks at a bible study, 20 plus elementary school students, half a dozen biker gang members, a few drug dealers, or some random souls on a train we have quite a few killers nestled comfortably in the population at large.

You ask when we will grow up and deal with it, racism is rampant throughout the world. Attend a futbol game in Europe to see some truly disgusting displays. Dani Alves can give first hand accounts, as can Josi Altidore of the intense racism still prevalent throughout Europe in spite of the pretense of many that Europe is somehow more advanced in dealing with issues of race. We must continue to shine the bright light of decency upon those who express this hatred, upon those who would advocate violence.

I hope you feel better after your break, I wish you well in your efforts to come to grips with this ugly situation. I apologize if my remarks are out of order that is not my intent...I believe we pay a great deal of lip service to the issue of race in the US but without any underlying honest attempts at addressing those issues with meaningful policies and meaningful change to educate the next generation(s) to limit the enduring racism in our nation.

You can't fix the racists in the current generation(s) it's the kids, we can only truly change through education our future.

Just my $0.02 YMMV as it most certainly should...

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I am so damn mad this morning [View all] Coolest Ranger Jun 2015 OP
The most important issue here is the nine dead at the hands of an avowed racist.... marble falls Jun 2015 #1
why is your first comment about guns? Fast Walker 52 Jun 2015 #5
I am still upset about the events and managed to send the reply before I was finished or edited..... marble falls Jun 2015 #9
OK, thanks Fast Walker 52 Jun 2015 #25
That idiot Chuck Todd TNNurse Jun 2015 #32
I learned racism at my grandfather's knee. Thank G*d that my step-father taught me empathy. marble falls Jun 2015 #36
Todd's reasoning: SCantiGOP Jun 2015 #41
Excellent rant, and I feel much the same way. Rhiannon12866 Jun 2015 #77
We need to insure all guns classykaren Jun 2015 #2
I agree. Fast Walker 52 Jun 2015 #4
That is an excellent idea. nt SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #37
The problem with the insuance angle, Snobblevitch Jun 2015 #40
Apparently his father did not buy/give him the weapon. He bought the weapon himself with his kelly1mm Jun 2015 #50
So someone steals your car and kills someone and you are responsible? Nt Logical Jun 2015 #55
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2015 #56
good lord. NM_Birder Jun 2015 #57
+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #74
K and R etherealtruth Jun 2015 #3
I'm freaking pissed too Fast Walker 52 Jun 2015 #6
The murder of 9 sheshe2 Jun 2015 #70
I wasn't equating, they are just two things that depressed me Fast Walker 52 Jun 2015 #78
The main purpose of a gun is to kill Sienna86 Jun 2015 #7
Well said. No need to apologize. n/t ms liberty Jun 2015 #8
I emphathize with your anger and pain vlyons Jun 2015 #10
The root cause of most of our problems is the bribe money we legally allow in our politics! Dustlawyer Jun 2015 #31
You obviously get the picture about money too vlyons Jun 2015 #52
the bible also says, NM_Birder Jun 2015 #62
Think of the Bible's genesis stories as metaphorical stories, not vlyons Jun 2015 #73
I totally agree, I live in Southeast Texas and feel your pain. Dustlawyer Jun 2015 #66
great conscience pricker heaven05 Jun 2015 #11
" do something about these extremist racist white people?" <Well, we had WWII. That wasn't enough jtuck004 Jun 2015 #12
Coolest Ranger, I'm sorry for your pain. jomin41 Jun 2015 #13
You have my heartfelt empathy, although I cannot imagine what Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #14
"but guess what the racist see, they only see the black part of me" Omaha Steve Jun 2015 #15
actually, most of 'DU' has been extremely supportive of sentiments like your own bigtree Jun 2015 #16
Agreed. rosesaylavee Jun 2015 #17
Well said! n/t Stellar Jun 2015 #18
No forgiveness needed for your rant. mnhtnbb Jun 2015 #19
The answer is simple - get out the vote! vlyons Jun 2015 #53
You have every right to rant. nruthie Jun 2015 #20
Free speech can be and has been weaponized in America. It needs to be disarmed. Hate radio and TV Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #21
Sources: Roof told police he almost didn't shoot church-goers 'because everyone was so nice to him' Hissyspit Jun 2015 #22
I don't even know how to react to that. SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #42
It tells you how 'carefully taught' he was to hate. mnhtnbb Jun 2015 #58
I agree with all your points add one more. gordianot Jun 2015 #23
I am late and have to run. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #24
I can't imgine what it is like to be a POC in this country. onecaliberal Jun 2015 #26
+1 LiberalLoner Jun 2015 #33
Maybe we've been too harsh on Rachel Dolezal. Today I identify with being black more than being.... marble falls Jun 2015 #34
I haven't commented on that. I can't fault her. onecaliberal Jun 2015 #38
Honestly, I can't either. It is such a strange thing these two "events" happened in such a small ... marble falls Jun 2015 #44
Me too. onecaliberal Jun 2015 #47
Just goes to show that "race" is not a real thing vlyons Jun 2015 #54
K & R!!!!! Thespian2 Jun 2015 #27
Racism. That is the problem. What to do with it is another. We were close to some of the answers jwirr Jun 2015 #28
There is only 1 way to overcome racism vlyons Jun 2015 #60
There is some truth to that statement. My own family is multi-racial. We have whites, Native jwirr Jun 2015 #61
Recently I had the misfortune of visiting the midwest. nightscanner59 Jun 2015 #68
Mad, disgusted, disheartened Gloria Jun 2015 #29
I am sick to my stomach Evergreen Emerald Jun 2015 #30
You're a human. You got rights to rant! Also,to me, you're absolute 110% right. TRoN33 Jun 2015 #35
Murderers nil desperandum Jun 2015 #39
I am so sorry for your pain Ranger. efilon Jun 2015 #43
Forgiveness? Would you settle for thanks? SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #45
This is wearing at my soul too, Coolest Ranger. Please go nurture your soul for a while. Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #46
To address one of your points 1939 Jun 2015 #48
Righteous rant. Nothing else to add riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #49
Yesterday one of my kids asked what percentage of white he is. lunasun Jun 2015 #51
Dear Coolest, I was thinking of you for some time last night, trying to sleep and read this now. freshwest Jun 2015 #59
There is no need to forgive you for your rant. Jamastiene Jun 2015 #63
Here's a fresh perspective Rafale Jun 2015 #64
. marym625 Jun 2015 #65
I am deeply saddened that I can't see a path forward. GitRDun Jun 2015 #67
I share your anger and your grief... enough is ENOUGH! secondwind Jun 2015 #69
PM me when you can. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #71
You have 151 Recs from people who share your pain. Honest. Hekate Jun 2015 #72
Make that 159 Iwillnevergiveup Jun 2015 #75
That vile creature looked like one of Hitler Youth Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2015 #76
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