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zazen

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58. yes!--if 40%? of their communication occurs online, it's very much part of the environment

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 12:59 PM

Jun 2015

Social media and web sites are where many tweens, teens and young adults live. It's alarming. I'd think the more isolated types rely on it even more.

Given how much at my age I depend on the DU community for information on a range of issues--more than I do my neighbors--I have no problem seeing how racism can morph into new, equally twisted manifestations in online communities.

Misogyny preceded online hate pornography, but it doesn't make massive global distribution of online pornography of trafficked, raped, and tortured people any less misogynist. Look what the Net has done for MRA types.

This doesn't minimize the history of slavery, lynching, and institutionalized racism in South Carolina. But the expressions evolve.

I agree with you that we ignore these new incarnations of group-exacerbated hate at our peril.

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What I really cannot comprehend is how young people [View all] akbacchus_BC Jun 2015 OP

He had to soak it up from some one close.... daleanime Jun 2015 #1

That is what am trying to say. Hate is handed down by parents! akbacchus_BC Jun 2015 #3

First thing I asked my wife was, GGJohn Jun 2015 #2

Most likely it was at home. Giving a 21 year old akbacchus_BC Jun 2015 #4

Can't say I disagree, and from what I've read, GGJohn Jun 2015 #5

I know, it seems as if the father was encouraging akbacchus_BC Jun 2015 #6

I read that the father could receive 10 years in Club Fed for facilitating a straw purchase for his GGJohn Jun 2015 #9

I do not know anything about American laws and if it is legal akbacchus_BC Jun 2015 #14

Actually a straw purchase is a Federal Law which is punishable by 10 years in a Federal Prison, GGJohn Jun 2015 #16

some really good parents are terrible people olddots Jun 2015 #7

I admire your opinion and please do not apologise! akbacchus_BC Jun 2015 #11

Lots of fathers give their sons guns on an 18th or 21st birthday as a "now you're a man" token. haele Jun 2015 #23

Really, that is another culture that is mind boggling. akbacchus_BC Jun 2015 #26

I actually got my first gun way before that Lurker Deluxe Jun 2015 #42

I also got a gun earlier, like at 12yo. JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2015 #52

According to wiki, this is what she said Lilith Rising Jun 2015 #44

I raised another possibility nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #8

Ahhh, that's one I didn't even think of, GGJohn Jun 2015 #10

Nadin, how are you? No, he would have gone into a Mosque akbacchus_BC Jun 2015 #12

I spent the afternoon diving into stormfront nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #13

Nadin, I have never visited stormfront! akbacchus_BC Jun 2015 #15

It's a RW sewer of a website full of RW hate. eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #17

Glad I never heard of that site before. Amazing akbacchus_BC Jun 2015 #20

Some in the cave would find themselves right at home at SF nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #21

Raw neo nazi white supremacist site. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #18

the SPLC website and their Hatewatc blog is a wealth of information in regards to hate groups notadmblnd Jun 2015 #33

I make a point to check the site once a month nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #35

He lives in a deeply racist area- saw it everyday. No logging on needed. bettyellen Jun 2015 #24

Yes, but we all should start nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #27

I think I'm this case it detracts from how common his attitudes are in his community. bettyellen Jun 2015 #37

I disagree nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #45

But being common in his community directly supported him. Would have been the same scenario pre WWW bettyellen Jun 2015 #46

First... I did not call him a lone wolf nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #47

I agree with you - but it is a SECONDARY factor and IGNORES his own backyard.... bettyellen Jun 2015 #48

Once again you are ignoring the web nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #49

To say it is secondary to his family and peers is to acknowledge reality. bettyellen Jun 2015 #50

Have I said they do not matter? nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #55

Spare me the condescending bullshit, okay? It's irrelevant if his neighbor handed him a hard copy bettyellen Jun 2015 #56

Spare me your condescencion as well nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #57

I don't know nothing about no web, tell me more oh wise one! bettyellen Jun 2015 #60

The America of 200 years ago nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #63

He had neighbors looking the other way-validating his actions by ignoring them. bettyellen Jun 2015 #64

Go listen to the Intel Chief for the SPLC nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #66

Lol, the kid was in the library finding out about racism.... bettyellen Jun 2015 #68

You think this young man did not nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #69

yes!--if 40%? of their communication occurs online, it's very much part of the environment zazen Jun 2015 #58

Inexperanced people tend to feel more intensely than experianced people. haele Jun 2015 #19

Thank you Haele, your post was very enlightening. akbacchus_BC Jun 2015 #22

I agree, no one deserves that sort of attack at all. haele Jun 2015 #30

Haele, we all are grieving as I respond to you. This killing is so inhumane, you akbacchus_BC Jun 2015 #36

Not necessarily at home, but home is a good bet. merrily Jun 2015 #25

I agree with your summation. That is why you need to go to parent teachers meetings! akbacchus_BC Jun 2015 #28

Harboring hatred and acting on hatred with deadly force are two very different things. merrily Jun 2015 #29

Some people hate and do not react, some do with deadly intentions! akbacchus_BC Jun 2015 #32

We have to stop calling these priveleged young white assholes "unbalanced" for a start. They don't Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #31

I know and thank you. As a POC, I have to be careful what I post. akbacchus_BC Jun 2015 #34

Racists are usually unbalanced people to begin with. Rex Jun 2015 #38

It's a big country. Brickbat Jun 2015 #39

Same way some kids join ISIS. B2G Jun 2015 #40

Unfortunately true etherealtruth Jun 2015 #41

Interesting article I saw last night gollygee Jun 2015 #43

It might be he learned it at home, but Arugula Latte Jun 2015 #51

What's the guy's background? JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2015 #53

Or pent up Rage looking for an acceptable target One_Life_To_Give Jun 2015 #54

An hour. Jamastiene Jun 2015 #59

It's my understanding that he didn't "suddenly decide" Nevernose Jun 2015 #61

Simple. Tribal hatreds passed down hifiguy Jun 2015 #62

He hates himself and is filled with fear. Then, he is told "Kill this person and you will be safe." McCamy Taylor Jun 2015 #65

Or he knew other racist adults, like the teacher who called for segregation muriel_volestrangler Jun 2015 #67