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In reply to the discussion: Does Right To Own Guns Trump Right To Live? [View all]Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)55. It is harder for a university student (with photo ID) to vote than for a gun toter.
Voting is a pretty important right, right?
edited to add:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/06/04/in-houston-an-adamant-hillary-clinton-declares-war-on-voter-id/
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In case you dont know, a student ID cant be used to vote in Texas, but a concealed carry permit can. The implication: the Democratic Partys base of young and minority voters are far more likely to be rendered unable to vote than the GOPs gun-loving base. For Clinton, that's a situation that inherently ties her political fate to groups of voters she says are imperiled.
It was also no accident that Clintons carefully stage-managed speech was scheduled for Texas Southern University, a historically black college in Houston. After all, the current Voter ID law that governs voting in Texas was initially blocked by federal officials. Then, within hours of the U.S. Supreme Courts June 2013 Voting Rights Act decision eliminating the requirement that states like Texas run voting changes past federal authorities, the state put the law into effect.
African Americans, even in big red states like Texas which the most hopeful Democrats insist sits on the verge of turning purple, remain a core part of the constituency that Clinton needs.
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In case you dont know, a student ID cant be used to vote in Texas, but a concealed carry permit can. The implication: the Democratic Partys base of young and minority voters are far more likely to be rendered unable to vote than the GOPs gun-loving base. For Clinton, that's a situation that inherently ties her political fate to groups of voters she says are imperiled.
It was also no accident that Clintons carefully stage-managed speech was scheduled for Texas Southern University, a historically black college in Houston. After all, the current Voter ID law that governs voting in Texas was initially blocked by federal officials. Then, within hours of the U.S. Supreme Courts June 2013 Voting Rights Act decision eliminating the requirement that states like Texas run voting changes past federal authorities, the state put the law into effect.
African Americans, even in big red states like Texas which the most hopeful Democrats insist sits on the verge of turning purple, remain a core part of the constituency that Clinton needs.
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+100. Even if one accepts "right" to carry/own guns, it doesn't mean good/civilized people should.
Hoyt
Jun 2015
#2
Yes, but that I expected from a gun nut. The NRA sells that loud and clear.
passiveporcupine
Jun 2015
#40
I own guns but I don't go around saying I want to start a race war, civil war, etc.
Thinkingabout
Jun 2015
#4
I have several relatives who hunt. They are good, kind people. I think we need to emphasize
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#24
Pointing fingers at the NRA for fighting sensible bills to hold people and gun dealers
Thinkingabout
Jun 2015
#35
True. I would favor requiring gun owners to insure their guns and to post bonds to cover
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#46
Around the world, people hunt and eat what they kill, and most other countries in which
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#66
Very true, NRA thinks everyone should have guns, manufactured by the groups they represent
Thinkingabout
Jun 2015
#80
Then you are guilty, and have blood on your hands. According to this DU poster.
oneshooter
Jun 2015
#77
No, in the same way that the right to free speech doesn't trump crimes involving speech
aikoaiko
Jun 2015
#14
Specifically, what rights do you believe gun owners have that you don't?
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2015
#18
In Texas, for example, a CCW license is ok ID to vote, while a University Student ID card isn't.
Electric Monk
Jun 2015
#41
I answered the question you posed in post #18 with a specific example. nt
Electric Monk
Jun 2015
#52
What has this "right" to use another form of ID while voting deprived others of?
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2015
#53
It is harder for a university student (with photo ID) to vote than for a gun toter.
Electric Monk
Jun 2015
#55
Not only that, most gun owners don't *have* ID cards-not required where they live
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2015
#68
The difference, as I'm sure you know, is that a university ID isn't a govt issued ID,
GGJohn
Jun 2015
#59
Gun-averse Massachusetts allows Firearms ID cards to be used as proof of residence...
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2015
#61
there are many cases where two people are armed and the murderer kills the innocent one
samsingh
Jun 2015
#25
Does the right to get intoxicated trump the right to not die from drunk drivers and criminals?
Nuclear Unicorn
Jun 2015
#45
"Just stop working to ensure felons have access" Any evidence NU is doing such a thing?
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2015
#70
Things would be so much better if you could trouble yourself to lose the snotty rhetoric.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jun 2015
#78
And what are *you* doing to that effect, aside from parroting that phrase?
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2015
#71