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In reply to the discussion: Does Right To Own Guns Trump Right To Live? [View all]beevul
(12,194 posts)73. "The only thing you criticize is people who want to stop that."
"The only thing you criticize is people who want to stop that."
We disagree with your methods. Many of the methods you lot propose, are akin to amputating a leg because of a hangnail. "Assault weapon ban". "ban them all".
And some are just useless annoyances that don't terribly seem to effect people like the shooter in the most recent shooting. Yes, I'm talking about magazine capacity limits. The last shooting was committed with a gun of 104 year old design, and 7 round magazines. You lot swore up and down that magazine capacity limits will save lives, while pimping a 10 round limit. I'd say that the days of that argument are over, wouldn't you?
And most of the rest, such as registration, are things we'd never trust an ally with, let alone a group we don't trust. What on earth makes you think we'd trust the integrity and application of such things, to people like you who have plainly stated how they'd like to see government used to effect people like us, in an effort to get at people who would misuse firearms.
Not to mention that "gun humper", "murder advocate", and so on, in addition to the way you lot treat us as individuals here on DU, other web sites, and IRL, do not exactly indicate that we could expect any degree of fair treatment if we allow ourselves to be cowed, shamed, bribed, or otherwise convinced, to roll over on to our backs and show our bellies like submissive little puppies, and accept what our 'anti-gun betters' know is good for us.
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+100. Even if one accepts "right" to carry/own guns, it doesn't mean good/civilized people should.
Hoyt
Jun 2015
#2
Yes, but that I expected from a gun nut. The NRA sells that loud and clear.
passiveporcupine
Jun 2015
#40
I own guns but I don't go around saying I want to start a race war, civil war, etc.
Thinkingabout
Jun 2015
#4
I have several relatives who hunt. They are good, kind people. I think we need to emphasize
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#24
Pointing fingers at the NRA for fighting sensible bills to hold people and gun dealers
Thinkingabout
Jun 2015
#35
True. I would favor requiring gun owners to insure their guns and to post bonds to cover
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#46
Around the world, people hunt and eat what they kill, and most other countries in which
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#66
Very true, NRA thinks everyone should have guns, manufactured by the groups they represent
Thinkingabout
Jun 2015
#80
Then you are guilty, and have blood on your hands. According to this DU poster.
oneshooter
Jun 2015
#77
No, in the same way that the right to free speech doesn't trump crimes involving speech
aikoaiko
Jun 2015
#14
Specifically, what rights do you believe gun owners have that you don't?
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2015
#18
In Texas, for example, a CCW license is ok ID to vote, while a University Student ID card isn't.
Electric Monk
Jun 2015
#41
I answered the question you posed in post #18 with a specific example. nt
Electric Monk
Jun 2015
#52
What has this "right" to use another form of ID while voting deprived others of?
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2015
#53
It is harder for a university student (with photo ID) to vote than for a gun toter.
Electric Monk
Jun 2015
#55
Not only that, most gun owners don't *have* ID cards-not required where they live
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2015
#68
The difference, as I'm sure you know, is that a university ID isn't a govt issued ID,
GGJohn
Jun 2015
#59
Gun-averse Massachusetts allows Firearms ID cards to be used as proof of residence...
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2015
#61
there are many cases where two people are armed and the murderer kills the innocent one
samsingh
Jun 2015
#25
Does the right to get intoxicated trump the right to not die from drunk drivers and criminals?
Nuclear Unicorn
Jun 2015
#45
"Just stop working to ensure felons have access" Any evidence NU is doing such a thing?
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2015
#70
Things would be so much better if you could trouble yourself to lose the snotty rhetoric.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jun 2015
#78
And what are *you* doing to that effect, aside from parroting that phrase?
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2015
#71