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SusanCalvin

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94. She credited "God"

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 12:30 AM

Jun 2015

I am grateful to her nevertheless, and for all I know we may mean the same thing (see Heinlein), but nevertheless, as an atheist I was somewhat dismayed. But it is the Bible belt. I live here. I make allowances.

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Doug Brannon SC Representative (R) introducing bill to take down confederate flag [View all] lostnfound Jun 2015 OP

Germans don't get to fly the Nazi flag as a way to honor their war dead NightWatcher Jun 2015 #1

... GGJohn Jun 2015 #6

Hate speech is not protected by the 1A dballance Jun 2015 #9

Hate speech is most certainly protected by the 1A, GGJohn Jun 2015 #10

That pos flag RobertEarl Jun 2015 #50

Regardless, it's still protected by the 1A. eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #52

Not anynore RobertEarl Jun 2015 #56

Really? GGJohn Jun 2015 #59

Tell it to the judge RobertEarl Jun 2015 #66

So it hasn't been outlawed? GGJohn Jun 2015 #69

Just because the 1st ammendment gives the state the right to fly it, Mr.Bill Jun 2015 #133

Nor, John, is TREASON protected by the First Amendment. forest444 Jun 2015 #67

Ok, post the link where the confederate battle flag has been ruled as treason. GGJohn Jun 2015 #77

Display of the Confederate Battle flag isn't treason or a crime in itself, of course. forest444 Jun 2015 #86

You do realize that the flag flown over the memorial statute on the capitol grounds GGJohn Jun 2015 #88

Well, if you must split hairs forest444 Jun 2015 #95

I don't doubt your word, GGJohn Jun 2015 #97

What treason, exactly? NuclearDem Jun 2015 #122

The Civil War, for starters. forest444 Jun 2015 #127

I agree with TRP, but displaying the Dixie swastika is not legally an act of treason. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #129

You're right, unfortunately. forest444 Jun 2015 #131

Fire in a crowded theatre, exactly. SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #63

Maybe it has, GGJohn Jun 2015 #65

Totally agree, and I think it should be. nt SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #68

Thank you!!!! GGJohn Jun 2015 #71

Oh, you made me smile! SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #75

+1000. GGJohn Jun 2015 #78

Sauce for the goose, you betcha. SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #81

Thank whatever entity for moms. Salt of the earth. eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #83

You know what, I've reconsidered my position. SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #84

I agree. GGJohn Jun 2015 #85

That's the way the guy was caught. SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #90

She was very brave and humble, I admire her for that, GGJohn Jun 2015 #92

She credited "God" SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #94

Believe it or not, I think that was a Gallagher bit. Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2015 #124

I believe it, SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #136

Gallagher bigmonkey Jun 2015 #138

Shouting fire in a crowded theater. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #121

Thanks for the info. SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #135

Actually it is protected speech hardluck Jun 2015 #11

Yes, it certainly is. linuxman Jun 2015 #113

it may be "protected" but the state endorsing it by flying the symbol rurallib Jun 2015 #14

Hey, you're preaching to the choir. eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #15

That was kind of my thinking. 47of74 Jun 2015 #29

Yep. nt SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #70

Government is no more an individual.... daleanime Jun 2015 #16

Huh? GGJohn Jun 2015 #21

How is that confusing? daleanime Jun 2015 #26

Ok, I get it now. eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #27

that is true. the comparison is still accurate cali Jun 2015 #17

Iirc, it's not atop the Capital. It's on a Confederate Soldiers memorial riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #24

Let them put it in a museum, then, SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #73

Agreed. It needs to be de-emphasized and minimized nt riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #76

That doesn't mean it should fly at the South Carolina capitol. DanTex Jun 2015 #30

I never said otherwise. eom GGJohn Jun 2015 #42

There is a difference between having the confederate flag Jamastiene Jun 2015 #33

It's not US govt. property, it's SC govt property, GGJohn Jun 2015 #35

Put it in a box in a museum Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2015 #43

No, it shouldn't. GGJohn Jun 2015 #44

I don't want to see it Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2015 #46

I don't blame you a bit. SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #93

Can't says I blame you. eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #98

None of us want to see it For Freddie Jun 2015 #137

None of us want to see it For Freddie Jun 2015 #139

"It is an anti-American flag. It represents another country that fought against America." DamnYankeeInHouston Jun 2015 #62

Apparently the US govt doesn't see it that way. eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #64

Unfortunately. SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #87

You know who flies that flag? SwankyXomb Jun 2015 #125

The "heritage" argument is utter bullshit! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #117

But I thought Lindsey Graham said the flag 'works' for South Carolina. RandySF Jun 2015 #2

It's part of "who" he is! riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #12

Good on him. cui bono Jun 2015 #3

That was my first thought. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #18

Good to see a Republican doing the right thing Bjorn Against Jun 2015 #4

If he really cared, he wouldn't be a fuckin' Republican. nt valerief Jun 2015 #5

Give it a fucking rest, GGJohn Jun 2015 #8

Thats a tough job for a lot of folks here! 7962 Jun 2015 #22

Yep GGJohn Jun 2015 #25

Too little....too late. ZX86 Jun 2015 #45

You do know that alot of Democrats voted for the IWR also don't you? eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #51

No ZX86 Jun 2015 #53

You're welcome. GGJohn Jun 2015 #61

Do you have any other stunning revelations like... ZX86 Jun 2015 #79

Nope, but you seem to hit all the R talking points. GGJohn Jun 2015 #80

shame! Botany Jun 2015 #13

A lot of the pressure to be an asshole is coming down on them from a national level.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #19

Sorry, but this isn't 1954. To be a Republican todays means you hate women, you hate POC, and valerief Jun 2015 #120

Actually, on a local level all you have to do is be a parrot. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #132

Bwah! nt valerief Jun 2015 #141

True as far as it goes, but perhaps he will change. SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #48

It's frustrating that repubs are incapable of empathizing ("getting it") until something personally ecstatic Jun 2015 #144

Yeah, I do think SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #145

I think the national party is going to pressure SCGOP. blm Jun 2015 #7

It just may take him to yuiyoshida Jun 2015 #20

It will take a 2/3s vote in each house to change the 'comprise' law that put it there. sinkingfeeling Jun 2015 #23

They have the nerve to call it a "compromise "? They lost the fucking Civil War. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #32

Because the Fed. Govt has no jurisidiction. GGJohn Jun 2015 #37

That is the Confederate battle flag, not a state flag. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #40

That may be the way you see it, but it's not the law, GGJohn Jun 2015 #41

The 14th Amendment is the law. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #47

Then tell me something here, if what you claim were true, GGJohn Jun 2015 #54

The feds pick their battles I guess. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #89

Or they recognize that this is a state's issue and they have no jurisdiction over it. GGJohn Jun 2015 #91

Discrimination is not a state's right. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #102

Never said it was, GGJohn Jun 2015 #104

That's your opinion. That is not a fact. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #107

It's just as much fact as your opinion, matter of fact, GGJohn Jun 2015 #109

Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #110

LOLOL. GGJohn Jun 2015 #111

You contend the state should be able to fly that flag because it's "state property." SunSeeker Jun 2015 #114

Now you're lying about what I said. GGJohn Jun 2015 #118

You contend that because the flag is state property the feds can't stop them.. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #128

Actually, its the naval jack of the Confederate Navy, not a flag of the army. 7962 Jun 2015 #72

Thank you for the info. GGJohn Jun 2015 #82

AND General Lee's battle flag and the battle flag of the Confederate Army of Tennessee. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #99

And it's still protected under the 1A. eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #100

The 1st Am protects people, not government. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #103

And yet, the US govt has declined to intervene. eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #105

That does not make it any less an injustice. nt SunSeeker Jun 2015 #106

What injustise? GGJohn Jun 2015 #108

The injustice of your government treating you like you are subhuman chattel. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #112

It just might be the start of something good and enduring. marble falls Jun 2015 #28

Wow, props to him for that. Jamastiene Jun 2015 #31

Republicans are the only ones who can do this gratuitous Jun 2015 #36

Good point. Jamastiene Jun 2015 #38

They also need to: bkkyosemite Jun 2015 #34

Really. SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #55

A ray of hope Iwillnevergiveup Jun 2015 #39

Oh, so when it's HIS friend, when it affects HIM PERSONALLY . . . hatrack Jun 2015 #49

That's the way human beings work, SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #58

I appreciate what' he's trying to do. herding cats Jun 2015 #57

Change comes too slowly but we progress with changing one heart at a time ALBliberal Jun 2015 #60

Very nicely said. nt 7962 Jun 2015 #74

they should call a special session KT2000 Jun 2015 #96

Appropriate marions ghost Jun 2015 #101

that makes me cry.. thank you, lostandfound. :( Cha Jun 2015 #115

Will fall into the snake pit when we call it the confederate flag. TheOther95Percent Jun 2015 #116

K&R valerief Jun 2015 #123

K&R myrna minx Jun 2015 #119

One should be very careful sulphurdunn Jun 2015 #126

Sons of Confederacy Booth at Festival HockeyMom Jun 2015 #130

Thank you hockeymom saidsimplesimon Jun 2015 #134

They just need to keep focusing on the connection between avebury Jun 2015 #140

I wrote Representative Brannon an email stage left Jun 2015 #142

And that's good bluestateguy Jun 2015 #143