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In reply to the discussion: Does Right To Own Guns Trump Right To Live? [View all]Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)78. Things would be so much better if you could trouble yourself to lose the snotty rhetoric.
Practically everything is wrong and/or lacking in facticity.
There is no right to get intoxicated outside your own home...
You have no right to get drunk inside your home either. It is legal permissible to get drunk inside your own home but it is not a right such as the right to be free of the violent predations of others.
Your logic is completely tortured, or rather non-existent.
Argument by assertion with no explanation.
Play with your fucking guns in your house all you want.
I don't play with my guns. The number of times I have gone shooting wouldn't take all my fingers to count. I have learned how to safely load, unload, fire and store a gun. Yours is deliberately insulting rhetoric that has no valid purpose, it only supplies you with an emotional release.
As far as playing with guns is concerned: I did buy my husband a gun last year so that he could, strictly for enjoyment's sake, go shooting.
It's a replica black powder percussion cap and ball musket.
Just stop working to ensure felons have access and that would be killers can walk around with guns in public. Is that really to much to ask?
What have I done to facilitate allowing killers to walk around in public?
I have, over the last several months since its announcement, congratulated President Obama on instituting a program to update the flagging NICS system which is used for conducting background checks. I have petitioned for expanding access to NICS to cover private sales.
If you argue the simple fact of my being allowed to buy a gun facilitates others committing heinous acts then you would swerve into -- albeit unwittingly -- into my original point.
Evidently it is, since the gun lobby you support moves heaven and earth to ensure every single criminal, terrorist, domestic abuser, and killer gets as many guns as he wants.
I am not a member of any gun lobby.
I would be interested to see where any of the RKBA advocacy groups have petitioned to allow domestic abusers and other violent criminals access to guns. Perhaps you could produce some evidence.
The only thing you criticize is people who want to stop that.
More emotionalism. I'd ask if you feel better but anyone this intent on being angry can only be angry and little else.
You can write your bullying little personal insults all you want; that doesn't make you any less wrong. It won't stop a single violent criminal. Grow up and get a hold of yourself and maybe some real work that focuses on the real reason behind violent crime -- not just gun crime -- can take place.
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+100. Even if one accepts "right" to carry/own guns, it doesn't mean good/civilized people should.
Hoyt
Jun 2015
#2
Yes, but that I expected from a gun nut. The NRA sells that loud and clear.
passiveporcupine
Jun 2015
#40
I own guns but I don't go around saying I want to start a race war, civil war, etc.
Thinkingabout
Jun 2015
#4
I have several relatives who hunt. They are good, kind people. I think we need to emphasize
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#24
Pointing fingers at the NRA for fighting sensible bills to hold people and gun dealers
Thinkingabout
Jun 2015
#35
True. I would favor requiring gun owners to insure their guns and to post bonds to cover
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#46
Around the world, people hunt and eat what they kill, and most other countries in which
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#66
Very true, NRA thinks everyone should have guns, manufactured by the groups they represent
Thinkingabout
Jun 2015
#80
Then you are guilty, and have blood on your hands. According to this DU poster.
oneshooter
Jun 2015
#77
No, in the same way that the right to free speech doesn't trump crimes involving speech
aikoaiko
Jun 2015
#14
Specifically, what rights do you believe gun owners have that you don't?
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2015
#18
In Texas, for example, a CCW license is ok ID to vote, while a University Student ID card isn't.
Electric Monk
Jun 2015
#41
I answered the question you posed in post #18 with a specific example. nt
Electric Monk
Jun 2015
#52
What has this "right" to use another form of ID while voting deprived others of?
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2015
#53
It is harder for a university student (with photo ID) to vote than for a gun toter.
Electric Monk
Jun 2015
#55
Not only that, most gun owners don't *have* ID cards-not required where they live
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2015
#68
The difference, as I'm sure you know, is that a university ID isn't a govt issued ID,
GGJohn
Jun 2015
#59
Gun-averse Massachusetts allows Firearms ID cards to be used as proof of residence...
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2015
#61
there are many cases where two people are armed and the murderer kills the innocent one
samsingh
Jun 2015
#25
Does the right to get intoxicated trump the right to not die from drunk drivers and criminals?
Nuclear Unicorn
Jun 2015
#45
"Just stop working to ensure felons have access" Any evidence NU is doing such a thing?
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2015
#70
Things would be so much better if you could trouble yourself to lose the snotty rhetoric.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jun 2015
#78
And what are *you* doing to that effect, aside from parroting that phrase?
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2015
#71