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nobodyspecial

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20. Where did I say church members?

Mon May 14, 2012, 09:21 PM

May 2012

My exact words: Frankly, I don't want ministers on either side

trying to drive the vote.

And throughout my response I was talking specifically about ministers advocating for or against political issues from the pulpit. And churches, as an organization, not individual members, acting as lobbyists.

It makes me angry that churches have been used for decades to fight against marriage equality and women's choice. It would be hypocritical of me to say they shouldn't be allowed in these cases but it is okay if it is something I support. I also think it does a disservice to church members to use them as political pawns to do a church's bidding.

I don't want churches is kids' education and I don't want them in the political arena. I believe in separation of church and state. Religious beliefs of one group should not dictate public policy for all groups.

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I just heard a minister encourage his congregation that 2008 was important but [View all] mfcorey1 May 2012 OP

I agree except to a point. mmonk May 2012 #1

Point well taken. nt mfcorey1 May 2012 #2

Lots of Christians agree with Obama on Gay and lesbian marriage. JDPriestly May 2012 #10

I'm aware of that as well. mmonk May 2012 #11

Frankly, I don't want ministers on either side nobodyspecial May 2012 #3

He never encouraged the congregation to vote for either candidate, but he did speak to the mfcorey1 May 2012 #4

Social networks, casual conversations and DU nobodyspecial May 2012 #5

I agree with you 100%. obxhead May 2012 #6

The liberal church support MLK and civil rights, the safety jwirr May 2012 #13

What someone does outside of their church property shouldn't apply. obxhead May 2012 #14

What about the groups inside the church that specifically deal with hunger issues, etc.? We are jwirr May 2012 #15

Acts of goodwill obxhead May 2012 #16

Exactly my point. And when I right a letter to my Congressman to support a program for those jwirr May 2012 #17

When you "right" your letter obxhead May 2012 #18

The letter would be written from home but the idea would have come from the group inside church jwirr May 2012 #19

This was never a conservative. Liberal dems are progressive. What you are expressing is simply mfcorey1 May 2012 #7

Wow nobodyspecial May 2012 #8

Done! mfcorey1 May 2012 #9

You think church members do not pay taxes? Think again. jwirr May 2012 #12

Where did I say church members? nobodyspecial May 2012 #20

You basically pointed out that groups outside the church pay their taxes leaving the impression jwirr May 2012 #22

Whatever happened to separation of church and state? Zax2me May 2012 #21