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In reply to the discussion: Here's a White guy about to stab a Black guy in the chest with an American Flag. [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)81. The photographer says the guy was swinging the flagpole and the swinger didn't connect.
The victim concurs with the photographer's assessment. It doesn't make the image any less horrific. From an article that ran in the Boston Globe:
As the student protesters approached Landsmark, Forman, detecting a malfunction with one of his
camera's motor drives, started shooting manually, frame by frame. And then his lens focused on Joe
Rakes and Ted Landsmark.
"A couple guys were yelling, Get the n****r! " said Landsmark. "My nose got broken because one
of the guys hit me in the nose. And that, in part, is what knocked my glasses off. But I could see the flag
coming. It was a big flag. But the flag-bearer was swinging it. The appearance in the photograph is that he
was trying to impale me on it. In fact, he swung it at me, and I was able to lean back just enough that it
didn't actually hit me. Thank God."
But Rakes's near-miss did nothing to diminish the emotional power of the photograph. As he
witnessed the attack from his office overlooking the plaza, then-mayor White said he realized his city had
absorbed a stunning symbolic stain that would take years to fade.....
camera's motor drives, started shooting manually, frame by frame. And then his lens focused on Joe
Rakes and Ted Landsmark.
"A couple guys were yelling, Get the n****r! " said Landsmark. "My nose got broken because one
of the guys hit me in the nose. And that, in part, is what knocked my glasses off. But I could see the flag
coming. It was a big flag. But the flag-bearer was swinging it. The appearance in the photograph is that he
was trying to impale me on it. In fact, he swung it at me, and I was able to lean back just enough that it
didn't actually hit me. Thank God."
But Rakes's near-miss did nothing to diminish the emotional power of the photograph. As he
witnessed the attack from his office overlooking the plaza, then-mayor White said he realized his city had
absorbed a stunning symbolic stain that would take years to fade.....
The perpetrator, OTOH, does remain unrepentant. The interview you are probably referring to is found at the above link. He has kept that flag and seems to have accommodated himself to living with his reputation.
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Here's a White guy about to stab a Black guy in the chest with an American Flag. [View all]
WilliamPitt
Jun 2015
OP
The south is the only part of the country where white and black people see each other regularly
Recursion
Jun 2015
#121
You're wrong, AllTooEasy. I remember the riots in Boston. I also remember the Stuart murder case
catbyte
Jun 2015
#134
I really don't see how saying that racism is just as bad in the north as it is in the south
catbyte
Jun 2015
#140
Maybe you and I are reading the responses to AllTooEasy's post differently...
Missn-Hitch
Jun 2015
#155
Ted Landsmark's nose was broken (from a punch), and he has gone on to do a lot of work in art and
Brickbat
Jun 2015
#15
The photographer says the guy was swinging the flagpole and the swinger didn't connect.
MADem
Jun 2015
#81
I remember that horrible time but never saw this photo....racial violence, as American as apple pie.
haikugal
Jun 2015
#3
Our other disagreements notwithstanding, this is one hell of a refutation! My sincerest
KingCharlemagne
Jun 2015
#139
I've heard people say that the South has more structural racism but individuals are friendlier...
DemocraticWing
Jun 2015
#38
Naaah...he really hasn't said "I was wrong." He said he was a hot-headed kid, but he justifies
MADem
Jun 2015
#83
I can take you to lots of racist places in California but that would ruin the DU stereotype.
Throd
Jun 2015
#48
I accept people as they come to me. "Regions" are not good or bad, "people" are.
MADem
Jun 2015
#144
I have some family roots in one region of USA, but I've spent half my life outside America.
MADem
Jun 2015
#163
That "Black guy" is Ted Landsmark, who has had a long and distinguished career in the city.
MADem
Jun 2015
#54
There are 'code word' ways of indicating it--when people start talking about the "character" of a
MADem
Jun 2015
#82
yes, there are Racists everywhere but there seems to be more acceptance of it in some Southern areas
JI7
Jun 2015
#73
I have a 60 lb terrier mix, and a 6 lb chihuahua. That little dog can hate on that big terrier all
jtuck004
Jun 2015
#117
We cannot remove a thing when we deny the full breadth of its existence...
LanternWaste
Jun 2015
#168
The difference, of course, is that one group is still trying to relive the "glory days." n/t
Gore1FL
Jun 2015
#128
You don't see it much here in Seattle. Sunlight is a good disinfectsnt and all that.
AtheistCrusader
Jun 2015
#141
It's odd that focusing rather on the thought-provoking substance of your post
LanternWaste
Jun 2015
#167