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RiverLover

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17. Luckily, for Australia, wiser minds prevailed over your type of thinking.
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 08:31 AM
Jun 2015
This is what happened when Australia introduced tight gun controls
6/19/15

...But can something be done? Australia, a country that in some ways shares the United States' frontier mentality and history as part of the British empire, implemented sweeping gun-control measures that have been successful for nearly two decades. So, theoretically it's possible, but "the power to do something about it" in the U.S. is limited by factors that are deeply rooted in its culture and baked into its founding document.

...What happened in Australia? Gun violence was bad. A decade of gun massacres had seen more than 100 people shot dead. The last straw was an incident at a popular tourist spot at Port Arthur, Tasmania, in April 1996, when a lone gunman killed 20 people with his first 29 bullets, all in the space of 90 seconds. This "pathetic social misfit," to quote the judge in the case, achieved his final toll of 35 people dead and 18 seriously wounded by firing a military-style semiautomatic rifle.

What happened next? Only 12 days after the shootings, in John Howard's first major act of leadership and by far the most popular in his first year as Prime Minister, his government announced nationwide gun law reform.

Uniform legislation agreed to by all states and territories -- the national government has no control over gun ownership or use -- specifically addressed mass shootings: Rapid-fire rifles and shotguns were banned, gun owner licensing was tightened and remaining firearms were registered to uniform national standards.

How did Australia do it? In two nationwide, federally funded gun buybacks, plus large-scale voluntary surrenders and state gun amnesties both before and after Port Arthur, Australia collected and destroyed more than a million firearms, perhaps a third of the national stock, according to Professor Philip Alpers of the University of Sydney, who is editor of gunpolicy.org. No other nation had attempted anything on this scale. The national government also banned the importation of new automatic and semiautomatic weapons. And the buyback was paid for by a special one-off tax on all Australians.

What was the political fallout? It wasn't without cost to John Howard. Political interest groups among his conservative base raised hell, and the move met strong resistance from some in rural areas. His party's coalition partner in those areas suffered in subsequent elections. But the majority of Australians, shocked by the mass killing, backed action. And it worked...

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/19/world/us-australia-gun-control/


^^^^ This is what we should have done after Newtown/Sandy Hook. It BLOWS MY MIND nothing changed after those sweet, precious toddlers were gunned down in a closet.

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Here's another interesting graphic, as if any more evidence were needed Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #1
Namaste Surya!! RiverLover Jun 2015 #2
And 'Namaste' to you River! On this auspicious World Yoga Day! Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #5
Why are you comparing to "justifiable homicides"? Recursion Jun 2015 #8
This is a graphic from The INDEPENDENT in the UK. Please purvey your gun love elsewhere. Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #18
And I asked why you chose it Recursion Jun 2015 #19
I thought I said 'Good-bye'...didn't get the message? Well then, I'll repeat myself... Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #20
And I thought I asked a question Recursion Jun 2015 #21
... Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #23
Pffft! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #41
Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #42
It seems so. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #46
Arguing with the ammosexuals is like arguing with fundies. hifiguy Jun 2015 #57
In the face of gun violence, what possible gun or amunition do you want you can't buy?.... marble falls Jun 2015 #29
My bigger problem is that this ignores countries like Brazil and Russia Recursion Jun 2015 #32
This again? You can't seriously think that Brazil and Russia are part of America's international DanTex Jun 2015 #36
I totally think that. We're more like Brazil than Germany Recursion Jun 2015 #37
No we aren't. And no social scientists believe that either. Check the HDI, for example. DanTex Jun 2015 #40
Thank you for that addition. n/t Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #49
But, but, gun homicides are declining in this country!! SheilaT Jun 2015 #3
Of course they are. Have been for the past 20 years. Recursion Jun 2015 #7
Big fucking whoop. SheilaT Jun 2015 #10
It does happen elsewhere, with greater frequency Recursion Jun 2015 #12
Great company. SheilaT Jun 2015 #13
I've seen a lot of the world and I don't consider the US a developed nation Recursion Jun 2015 #14
Well, that explains it. SheilaT Jun 2015 #16
Psychos will always find a way to kill davidn3600 Jun 2015 #22
True, but guns are a relatively easy method Recursion Jun 2015 #24
So why is Canada so much lower? Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #33
No, Canada's laws are not "largely the same as ours"... Spazito Jun 2015 #54
Um, no the laws are not comparable. laundry_queen Jun 2015 #55
Why do these guns keep murdering people??? ileus Jun 2015 #4
Luckily, for Australia, wiser minds prevailed over your type of thinking. RiverLover Jun 2015 #17
Silly graphic. Add Russia, Brazil, Venezuela, and South Africa Recursion Jun 2015 #6
That's interesting. They also are jomin41 Jun 2015 #9
Yup. Our government model is closer to South Africa or Brazil than the UK Recursion Jun 2015 #11
So we're a non-developed nation now, so its ok gun deaths are more rampant here than those RiverLover Jun 2015 #25
No, it's another example of why nondeveloped nations like us need to build the social infrastructure Recursion Jun 2015 #27
It means systemic social problems can't be mitigated... krispos42 Jun 2015 #31
Wow, I feel better awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #56
The fact that we don't do anything about this.... daleanime Jun 2015 #15
What's the corporate propaganda here? Recursion Jun 2015 #26
Acc to Obama, the "gun lobby/NRA's grip on congress is stopping stricter control" RiverLover Jun 2015 #34
The NRA isn't the lobby for manufacturers Recursion Jun 2015 #35
Oh really? They sure do a lot P.R. to increase gun sales. Here's why... Human101948 Jun 2015 #52
K&R Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #28
K&R marym625 Jun 2015 #30
Insane outlier... 3catwoman3 Jun 2015 #38
Its been 13 years since 'Bowling for Columbine'...nothing has changed. Moostache Jun 2015 #39
I've never owned a gun and see no reason to do so damnedifIknow Jun 2015 #43
Here's one I save from the NY Times.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #44
so called "civilized" country. barbtries Jun 2015 #45
I'm so sorry for your tremendous & tragic loss. RiverLover Jun 2015 #48
thank you RiverLover barbtries Jun 2015 #50
The U.S. is an outlier when it comes to many LWolf Jun 2015 #47
K&R smirkymonkey Jun 2015 #51
So we jump into the thousands, whereas Canada stays at 200. Rex Jun 2015 #53
lots of cowards in the "Home of the Brave" Skittles Jun 2015 #58
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