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Moostache

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39. Its been 13 years since 'Bowling for Columbine'...nothing has changed.

Sun Jun 21, 2015, 10:00 AM

Jun 2015

The really stunning thing to me is that we are still in the literal death grip of the NRA even after all of the accumulated horrors of gun violence and mass shootings. When Sandy Hook happened and nothing substantial changed I lost hope of ever seeing meaningful reform or responsible consequences for owners and purchasers of firearms. Now? Its obvious that this country is rotten to the core and without a soul to bother fighting for.

Not original, but I don't know who to credit for it off the top of my head: If baking a cake for a gay wedding reception is "participating" in the wedding, why is selling the gun or ammunition used in a shooting NOT "participating" in the murder?

I do not wish to ban guns outright or take them away from legitimate owners - but onerous ownership laws that require background checks, purchaser liability and burdensome paperwork are all steps that could be taken to stem the tide of wanton violence and death so clearly seen here and NOT elsewhere in the world.

Its time to stop being "'murica!" and return to being the "United States of America" and while guns alone won't achieve that, accepting the FACT that we have a serious gun problem would be a good first step.

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These graphics show just how much of an insane outlier the US is on guns [View all] RiverLover Jun 2015 OP

Here's another interesting graphic, as if any more evidence were needed Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #1

Namaste Surya!! RiverLover Jun 2015 #2

And 'Namaste' to you River! On this auspicious World Yoga Day! Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #5

Why are you comparing to "justifiable homicides"? Recursion Jun 2015 #8

This is a graphic from The INDEPENDENT in the UK. Please purvey your gun love elsewhere. Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #18

And I asked why you chose it Recursion Jun 2015 #19

I thought I said 'Good-bye'...didn't get the message? Well then, I'll repeat myself... Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #20

And I thought I asked a question Recursion Jun 2015 #21

... Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #23

Pffft! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #41

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #42

It seems so. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #46

Arguing with the ammosexuals is like arguing with fundies. hifiguy Jun 2015 #57

In the face of gun violence, what possible gun or amunition do you want you can't buy?.... marble falls Jun 2015 #29

My bigger problem is that this ignores countries like Brazil and Russia Recursion Jun 2015 #32

This again? You can't seriously think that Brazil and Russia are part of America's international DanTex Jun 2015 #36

I totally think that. We're more like Brazil than Germany Recursion Jun 2015 #37

No we aren't. And no social scientists believe that either. Check the HDI, for example. DanTex Jun 2015 #40

Thank you for that addition. n/t Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #49

But, but, gun homicides are declining in this country!! SheilaT Jun 2015 #3

Of course they are. Have been for the past 20 years. Recursion Jun 2015 #7

Big fucking whoop. SheilaT Jun 2015 #10

It does happen elsewhere, with greater frequency Recursion Jun 2015 #12

Great company. SheilaT Jun 2015 #13

I've seen a lot of the world and I don't consider the US a developed nation Recursion Jun 2015 #14

Well, that explains it. SheilaT Jun 2015 #16

Psychos will always find a way to kill davidn3600 Jun 2015 #22

True, but guns are a relatively easy method Recursion Jun 2015 #24

So why is Canada so much lower? Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #33

No, Canada's laws are not "largely the same as ours"... Spazito Jun 2015 #54

Um, no the laws are not comparable. laundry_queen Jun 2015 #55

Why do these guns keep murdering people??? ileus Jun 2015 #4

Luckily, for Australia, wiser minds prevailed over your type of thinking. RiverLover Jun 2015 #17

Silly graphic. Add Russia, Brazil, Venezuela, and South Africa Recursion Jun 2015 #6

That's interesting. They also are jomin41 Jun 2015 #9

Yup. Our government model is closer to South Africa or Brazil than the UK Recursion Jun 2015 #11

So we're a non-developed nation now, so its ok gun deaths are more rampant here than those RiverLover Jun 2015 #25

No, it's another example of why nondeveloped nations like us need to build the social infrastructure Recursion Jun 2015 #27

It means systemic social problems can't be mitigated... krispos42 Jun 2015 #31

Wow, I feel better awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #56

The fact that we don't do anything about this.... daleanime Jun 2015 #15

What's the corporate propaganda here? Recursion Jun 2015 #26

Acc to Obama, the "gun lobby/NRA's grip on congress is stopping stricter control" RiverLover Jun 2015 #34

The NRA isn't the lobby for manufacturers Recursion Jun 2015 #35

Oh really? They sure do a lot P.R. to increase gun sales. Here's why... Human101948 Jun 2015 #52

K&R Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #28

K&R marym625 Jun 2015 #30

Insane outlier... 3catwoman3 Jun 2015 #38

Its been 13 years since 'Bowling for Columbine'...nothing has changed. Moostache Jun 2015 #39

I've never owned a gun and see no reason to do so damnedifIknow Jun 2015 #43

Here's one I save from the NY Times.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #44

so called "civilized" country. barbtries Jun 2015 #45

I'm so sorry for your tremendous & tragic loss. RiverLover Jun 2015 #48

thank you RiverLover barbtries Jun 2015 #50

The U.S. is an outlier when it comes to many LWolf Jun 2015 #47

K&R smirkymonkey Jun 2015 #51

So we jump into the thousands, whereas Canada stays at 200. Rex Jun 2015 #53

lots of cowards in the "Home of the Brave" Skittles Jun 2015 #58