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lumberjack_jeff

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9. Immigrants are citizens or are seeking citizenship.

Mon May 14, 2012, 11:26 PM

May 2012

Foreign workers who send their paychecks "home" aren't. What you really mean is "pitting foreign workers and illegals against the native born and naturalized citizens"... and I'm okay with that.

Fewer foreign workers means more jobs for ethnic minority americans.

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American jobs for American workers? [View all] Sea-Dog May 2012 OP

My view is that your view plays nicely into the hands of those who want to drive down wages HiPointDem May 2012 #1

there is no mention of driving down wages. Sea-Dog May 2012 #7

See, that's how the union-busters and wage cutters try to get people to stop talking about HiPointDem May 2012 #15

Any argument that subordinates the interests of American workers is inherently failed at its core Zalatix May 2012 #34

Immigrants are citizens or are seeking citizenship. lumberjack_jeff May 2012 #9

It's been used in a racist context, but at face value rucky May 2012 #2

It's a phrase used by the right in doublespeak liberal N proud May 2012 #3

Then what is "Free Trade" FreakinDJ May 2012 #4

It is. It's just that the right poisoned the saying with racism, so now anyone who says it is HiPointDem May 2012 #5

that's because it is Sea-Dog May 2012 #8

Nope, it's not. But the union-busters and wage-cutters would like you to perpetuate that meme. HiPointDem May 2012 #14

So why don't you give up your American job and give it to someone outside the country? Zalatix May 2012 #20

So you're saying Trillo May 2012 #6

that's what your saying Sea-Dog May 2012 #11

You just don't like American workers having jobs. Admit it. It galls you. Zalatix May 2012 #19

My view? Damn right. lumberjack_jeff May 2012 #10

what you've got against them is that they are foreign. Sea-Dog May 2012 #12

I doubt he has anything against "them" at all. But he probably has something against the HiPointDem May 2012 #16

What you've got against Americans is that they're American. Zalatix May 2012 #18

Couldn't have said it any better myself :) Rochester May 2012 #13

The alternative is to discriminate against American workers and cut them out of the global economy. Zalatix May 2012 #17

I get the sense that this OP is sarcastic flamebait RZM May 2012 #21

Ever notice how the free traders never answer you when you ask Zalatix May 2012 #22

It's something of a sore spot here RZM May 2012 #26

Free trade sucks. white_wolf May 2012 #23

Yup, free trade is pro slavery. Zalatix May 2012 #24

Exactly. Starry Messenger May 2012 #31

couldnt have put it better myself Sea-Dog May 2012 #39

American jobs for American and resident alien workers. ingac70 May 2012 #25

Such slogans are used to pit working people against each other and benefit only the bosses. limpyhobbler May 2012 #27

Foreigners do a damned good job of keeping American workers out. Zalatix May 2012 #29

Unfortunately, there's a deep racist, nativist vein running through America that this taps into. baldguy May 2012 #28

Beware the Corporatist Neo-Liberal framing. Odin2005 May 2012 #30

It's anti-illegal immigration WinniSkipper May 2012 #32

Too over the top. 2/10. nt Romulox May 2012 #33

American jobs for American workers Hubert Flottz May 2012 #35

What other kind of jobs could there be for American Workers? cherokeeprogressive May 2012 #36

American workers need American jobs jp11 May 2012 #37

This is a play on the British Jobs For British Workers thing, right? Bluenorthwest May 2012 #38

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