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Octafish

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59. Why did AG John Ashcroft stop flying commercial aviation in July 2001?
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 10:17 PM
Jun 2015

Warned of a "threat," the then-attorney general began flying aboard government charters when flying home to Missouri for his weekend fishing trips.





Ashcroft Flying High

CBS News
February 11, 2009 9:23 PM

Fishing rod in hand, Attorney General John Ashcroft left on a weekend trip to Missouri Thursday afternoon aboard a chartered government jet, reports CBS News Correspondent Jim Stewart.

In response to inquiries from CBS News over why Ashcroft was traveling exclusively by leased jet aircraft instead of commercial airlines, the Justice Department cited what it called a "threat assessment" by the FBI, and said Ashcroft has been advised to travel only by private jet for the remainder of his term.

"There was a threat assessment and there are guidelines. He is acting under the guidelines," an FBI spokesman said. Neither the FBI nor the Justice Department, however, would identify what the threat was, when it was detected or who made it.

A senior official at the CIA said he was unaware of specific threats against any Cabinet member, and Ashcroft himself, in a speech in California, seemed unsure of the nature of the threat.

"I don't do threat assessments myself and I rely on those whose responsibility it is in the law enforcement community, particularly the FBI. And I try to stay within the guidelines that they've suggested I should stay within for those purposes," Ashcroft said.

Asked if he knew anything about the threat or who might have made it, the attorney general replied, "Frankly, I don't. That's the answer."

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http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-303601.html



As absurd as it sounds, Ashcroft's not even the worst of Them.

The next level down is occupied by George W Bush, the Coward of Crawford. Jim Hatfield wrote Bush, warned by Russia, Italy and who knows who else, was sore afraid of bin Laden aerial attack at G-7 summit in Geneva in April 2001 he wouldn't sleep inside the anti-aircraft missile protected luxury hotel on land, but elected to stay offshore, safer aboard a US destroyer. The story was the last thing Hatfield, author of "Fortunate Son," saw published before his suicide cough murder.



Why would Osama bin Laden want to kill Dubya, his former business partner?

By James Hatfield

Editor's note: In light of last week's horrific events and the Bush administration's reaction to them, we are reprising the following from the last column Jim Hatfield wrote for Online Journal prior to his tragic death on July 18:

July 3, 2001—There may be fireworks in Genoa, Italy, this month, too.

A plot by Saudi master terrorist, Osama bin Laden, to assassinate Dubya during the July 20 economic summit of world leaders, was uncovered after dozens of suspected Islamic militants linked to bin Laden's international terror network were arrested in Frankfurt, Germany, and Milan, Italy, in April.

German intelligence services have stated that bin Laden is covertly financing neo-Nazi skinhead groups throughout Europe to launch another terrorist attack at a high-profile American target—his first since the bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen last October.

According to counter-terrorism experts quoted in Germany's largest newspaper, the attack on Dubya might be a James Bond-like aerial strike in the form of remote-controlled airplanes packed with plastic explosives.

Why would Osama bi Laden want to kill, Dubya, his former business partner?

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http://web.archive.org/web/20060906150015/http://www.onlinejournal.org/Special_Reports/Hatfield-R-091901/hatfield-r-091901.html



I'd download the copy off of the Wayback Machine. For some reason, I can no longer find it at Online Journal.

The amazing Amy Goodman still hosts an interview with the feller.

Thank you for grokking all these years, Enthusiast. Your friendship means the world.

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release the 28 pages now nt grasswire Jun 2015 #1
+1 a huge bunch! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #17
Why is the White house not de-classifying this? Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2015 #53
Yes and it's way past time to end all this secrecy. Coleen Rowley and other FBI agents ALSO sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #69
Tick,tick, tick,... longship Jun 2015 #2
And we are supposed to accept major changes to our very way of life nationalize the fed Jun 2015 #3
"Truthers" Duppers Jun 2015 #5
Has Obama read the pages? If not maybe he should? Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2015 #55
Good points! JDPriestly Jun 2015 #11
PLUS ONE, a whole bunch! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #18
Hear hear! (eom) Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #74
The movie, The Green Prince, shows how double agents are used. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #4
Is any souce worth protecting at the cost of Duppers Jun 2015 #8
Very good point in restrospect. But they probably did not see it that way prospectively. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #10
Yes, thanks. Duppers Jun 2015 #12
Criminal (treasonous) all the way. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #19
How long before he wakes up with a horse head in his bed? marmar Jun 2015 #6
Same day he dropped a dime. Octafish Jun 2015 #14
connect some dots Man from Pickens Jun 2015 #7
Pappy Bush will turn out to be one of the worst mosters in US history if we last long enough NightWatcher Jun 2015 #16
+1! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #20
If Jeb gets in the White House, there will be wars in Central America and the Middle East. yardwork Jun 2015 #26
You can be sure JEB would be issuing a lot of Pardons, just like his Poppy did PeoViejo Jun 2015 #35
+2 SixString Jun 2015 #51
Many of us put two and two together long ago. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #21
And how do you dismiss a memo MissDeeds Jun 2015 #25
IIRC, it said something like "bin Laden planning to fly planes into buildings in U.S." yardwork Jun 2015 #27
That's even worse than MissDeeds Jun 2015 #28
The investigation was a whitewash, obviously. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #29
Yeah, they scared the crap out of everyone MissDeeds Jun 2015 #32
It was a huge well developed plan Enthusiast Jun 2015 #33
Don't forget the anthrax attack that shut down congress...nt Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #37
That's right MissDeeds Jun 2015 #38
Big K & R Duppers Jun 2015 #9
K & R Ichingcarpenter Jun 2015 #13
Newsweek's reporting the story... Octafish Jun 2015 #15
good for reporter Jeff Stein nt grasswire Jun 2015 #22
The Inside Information That Could Have Stopped 9/11 Octafish Jun 2015 #58
Rossini + Miller would be in jail charged under the Espionage Act w/ Obama riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #65
+1! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #30
Why did AG John Ashcroft stop flying commercial aviation in July 2001? Octafish Jun 2015 #59
Thanks for that! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #62
They had zero experience but were Ideologically well-connected. PeoViejo Jun 2015 #36
Those who follow Speaker Sam's adage will get ahead, too. Octafish Jun 2015 #60
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #23
What's being ignored are the questions: What was the failure and who is responsible? nm rhett o rick Jun 2015 #24
I don't believe it was a failure. It was intentional. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #31
I agree but they will never admit to it, but it's certainly fair to demand to know what rhett o rick Jun 2015 #34
Do we have names of the PNAC? Who are we talking about exactly and are they still in the game jwirr Jun 2015 #41
We do know.... Enthusiast Jun 2015 #43
That answers one question - is it still going on today? Jeb was a founding member. And they have jwirr Jun 2015 #44
I assume they are engaged in the same sort of shit they were before 911. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #45
LIHOP. nt hifiguy Jun 2015 #42
At the very least. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #46
If anyone thinks you can shame the CIA Aerows Jun 2015 #39
I believe you are correct. So bad we can't even fathom the level of their depravity. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #47
They learned from them Aerows Jun 2015 #48
Yes. I read about that. Unreal. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #49
Kick and Rec. hifiguy Jun 2015 #40
I agree that there is no other possible explanation. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #50
And any trail of evidence that leads to the Saudis... Gumboot Jun 2015 #61
JFK was right when he said that the CIA hifiguy Jun 2015 #52
K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #54
We all know about PNAC and what PNAC "needed" to happen. nt valerief Jun 2015 #56
Thanks!!! ruffburr Jun 2015 #76
And...astonishingly, one GOP candidate for potus is an original PNAC signer. Even more wiggs Jun 2015 #78
I am pretty sure that would have come straight from Cheney if true! Dustlawyer Jun 2015 #57
Thanks for posting Omaha Steve Jun 2015 #63
CIA Director Tennant Testified before Congress HoosierCowboy Jun 2015 #64
Uh, yeah CIA could have stopped 9/11 RobertEarl Jun 2015 #66
Of Course The Repukes Could Have Stopped It... All They Had To Do... harrose Jun 2015 #67
any congressional hearings on this? captainarizona Jun 2015 #68
Bwaahhahhhahha! Making fun of Congress, not you eridani Jun 2015 #72
K&R for exposure. JEB Jun 2015 #70
12 or so years ago I was almost banned from DU alittlelark Jun 2015 #71
A travesty of jystice occurred in investigating laserhaas Jun 2015 #73
K&R Go Vols Jun 2015 #75
LOL! Politicalboi Jun 2015 #77
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