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MADem

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359. What does that even mean..."So you are back for another tumble with me?"

Sun Jun 21, 2015, 11:26 PM

Jun 2015

People DO "take votes out of context" don't they? Period?

It's a common occurence here, unfortunately.

That was the point I was making. What's good for the goose is good for the gander...but that shoe pinches like hell on the other foot (to mix a few metaphors).

It's not really about what you, "personally" care about, it's about the tone on this board, the comments that fly back and forth. Shitty accusations invite other shitty accusations, and the quality of discourse is lowered. Nuance is the first casualty. The race to the bottom of the barrel begins. Shit gets stirred....and the wingnuts laugh.

I could take this comment of yours and apply it to dozens of posts made about the former SECSTATE, by just changing 'he' to 'she':

This was not about compromising or difficult votes. This OP was about lies and distortions in order to make a Democratic candidate appear different than he actually is.

Like I said, that shoe pinches on the other foot.

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In 2003, Rep. Sanders voted to protect "lawful commerce in arms": [View all] ucrdem Jun 2015 OP

Funny that the only ones TM99 Jun 2015 #1

Meant to put reply #2 here. nt ucrdem Jun 2015 #3

Please. Are you seriously trying to condemn Sanders for a no vote on THIS Head Start bill? marym625 Jun 2015 #57

It was a $35 billion funding bill. What would have happened if it hadn't passed? ucrdem Jun 2015 #72

A better outcome would have been no messing with a program that worked marym625 Jun 2015 #100

Good post. Cant believe how far some others here hafta stretch to supposedly find fault with Bernie, when there is none. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2015 #207

Thank you! marym625 Jun 2015 #212

Yes. The utter desperation is tragic, but kind of amusing at the same time. Zorra Jun 2015 #276

Had me laughing earlier. It also gives me confidence Bernie might just pull this thing off... InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2015 #329

Bravo Bryce Butler Jun 2015 #5

I give it a PG for pretzel google. ucrdem Jun 2015 #6

Almost every House Democrat voted against the Head Start bill your OP cited, as the pie chart at merrily Jun 2015 #7

Of course, it is a smear job. TM99 Jun 2015 #10

Funding Head Start bad, funding Iraq war good? Because that's how his votes sort out. nt ucrdem Jun 2015 #13

Violating Separation of Church and State in Head Start BAD, Iraq war INFINITELY WORSE. merrily Jun 2015 #17

He voted to fund that war, also Homeland Security. nt ucrdem Jun 2015 #26

I already responding to your funding comment. BTW, how did Hillary vote on those things? merrily Jun 2015 #28

There is something vile in using the IDEA in this manner Fairgo Jun 2015 #78

It was a bad thing, but Sanders was not able to thwart it. It passed the House, but never came to a merrily Jun 2015 #89

Thanks for verifying the banal sophistry... Fairgo Jun 2015 #143

Banal sophistry and cheap smears are the lozocolo way. QC Jun 2015 #182

Too bad they didn't get his sock drawer. Rex Jun 2015 #317

I'm not sure what's the point of banning disruptors QC Jun 2015 #323

Thanks for verifying the banal sophistry... Fairgo Jun 2015 #145

Not really Mnpaul Jun 2015 #175

unbelievable! marym625 Jun 2015 #201

The fact is that he voted to fund the DoD, imminent war and all, and Homeland Security. ucrdem Jun 2015 #208

Nice that you skip the things I mentioned but I don't find it surprising considering the OP. marym625 Jun 2015 #217

The fact is that you're avoiding the difficult questions. I don't blame you. nt ucrdem Jun 2015 #227

Bullshit. it is you that are avoiding. I asked a question. YOU didn't answer marym625 Jun 2015 #228

Look I have no idea what particular question you're harping on. Sorry. nt ucrdem Jun 2015 #230

Wow. marym625 Jun 2015 #233

Sanders voted against a $35 billion Head Start bill and for funding the Iraq War. ucrdem Jun 2015 #11

OMG. An even more shameful reply. He voted AGAINST the war. Once those who ADVOCATED for it, merrily Jun 2015 #19

He voted to fund it on the same day he voted against the mainly symbolic AUMF. ucrdem Jun 2015 #24

The Iraq War AUMF was symbolic? OMG merrily Jun 2015 #68

Symbolic? TM99 Jun 2015 #75

Without the Defense funding the Iraq war wouldn't have happened. Sanders voted to fund it. nt ucrdem Jun 2015 #97

Yeah, now that Bush has his war on TM99 Jun 2015 #109

Sanders voted to fund it the same day as AUMF, five months before Bush declared war. ucrdem Jun 2015 #112

Are you obtuse? TM99 Jun 2015 #120

Linking 2003 funding to a 2003 war approved the same day and declared five months later? ucrdem Jun 2015 #125

I guess you are! TM99 Jun 2015 #126

IRRELEVANT. Funding a war for which Congress voted is the ONLY decent thing to do. Again, ask Kerry merrily Jun 2015 #135

Holy cow, 5100 posts in the last 90 days...wow you are busy Sheepshank Jun 2015 #270

Did you have a point to make? merrily Jun 2015 #287

I made my point for those cared to read....apparently that wasn't what you'd read Sheepshank Jun 2015 #313

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2015 #324

That is very true, sometimes people get stuck in their snarking rather than forwarding the uppityperson Jun 2015 #326

You just keep saying the same stupid things over and over pangaia Jun 2015 #189

Because Bush and Cheney wouldn't have sent the troops anyway? mythology Jun 2015 #140

The DoD funding bill was not just for war. TM99 Jun 2015 #148

And this bilious thread is on you. AGAIN, how did Hillary vote? merrily Jun 2015 #50

indeed! secondwind Jun 2015 #48

So in other words, TM99 Jun 2015 #9

In other words, his voting record speaks volumes. nt ucrdem Jun 2015 #15

Yep. His voting record does speak volumes. Thank heaven it does, so it stands up to smears. merrily Jun 2015 #22

I wonder where it came from, don't you? merrily Jun 2015 #25

The links are in the OP. ucrdem Jun 2015 #27

No shit. I obviously knew that, given my replies. You might try reading a post before you reply. merrily Jun 2015 #29

From HRC's hard-working, UNPAID interns per chance? Divernan Jun 2015 #88

Well, I am not leaping to the conclusion that the OP actually checked 24 years of Bernie's votes, merrily Jun 2015 #96

It's a Loco thing. Just crazy, they got nothing else. Edited to thank the jury. Autumn Jun 2015 #178

Hmm. A post of mine on this thread got alerted on as well. Same vote, too: 0-7 to leave. Bad alerts. merrily Jun 2015 #282

Yeah strange. The consequences of a 0-7 to leave is that the Autumn Jun 2015 #288

I don't know if that's enough. Some of the alerts I've seen, especially lately, have been merrily Jun 2015 #293

The admins see all the alerts so if that's going on I would think Autumn Jun 2015 #294

One would hope. merrily Jun 2015 #297

Yes, bravo. Sienna86 Jun 2015 #8

Well now, that's how one answers a question! Nice! n/t jtuck004 Jun 2015 #12

Yup yup, knocked that one outta the park...kiss it goodbye...it's a Grand Slam!... InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2015 #331

Actually it's his ideas that need the support. But yeah, he's the only choice out there jtuck004 Jun 2015 #333

Yes, I see your point, but this is a WAY different political climate. Times have changed a lot since the early 80's. It's our time now. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2015 #339

Understand, I heard the same story back then. Really nothing new, though I know many can't see that. jtuck004 Jun 2015 #341

Fair point, I see where you're coming from. Yes, we'll see. And we saw what the media did to Howard Dean more recently, so obviously, anything csn happen. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2015 #357

As soon as I seen the subject line madokie Jun 2015 #30

Bravo! JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #37

Glad you did this!! I was going to do the research myself... n/1 secondwind Jun 2015 #46

Great work and great rebuttal to the OP's selective thinking Ichingcarpenter Jun 2015 #51

Thanks TM99 zentrum Jun 2015 #92

++++++++++1,000 - The OP is SHREDDED and left destroyed with this post. Bonobo Jun 2015 #206

It is food for thought though treestar Jun 2015 #218

Well said! ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2015 #248

I figured it wouldn't take long for some kind soul SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #252

I am afraid I have to disagree with your conclusion. MADem Jun 2015 #321

So are you back for another tumble TM99 Jun 2015 #356

What does that even mean..."So you are back for another tumble with me?" MADem Jun 2015 #359

You always claim that Clinton suffers the same. TM99 Jun 2015 #360

She does, but you refuse to see it. You only cry out when your ox is gored. MADem Jun 2015 #362

That right there is the biggest pile TM99 Jun 2015 #364

You and your "steaming pile" can go have a nice day. MADem Jun 2015 #365

Purpose of the Head Start bill, from the bill text: ucrdem Jun 2015 #2

Couple of things merrily Jun 2015 #4

So you support John Boehner nt Depaysement Jun 2015 #164

this tactic will backfire Motown_Johnny Jun 2015 #14

I never expect perfection from anyone. MoonRiver Jun 2015 #16

As far as I am concerned, religious doesn't applied to Sanders' campaign and he's becoming strongest TRoN33 Jun 2015 #20

Have you ever heard the word analogy? MoonRiver Jun 2015 #21

Have you been reading the replies to this thread? HE VOTED WITH THE DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS. merrily Jun 2015 #31

But , but I've been hearing here that he's the one who will vote his principles MoonRiver Jun 2015 #47

Again, READ. merrily Jun 2015 #53

I read, and I'm not impressed with his votes on these issues. MoonRiver Jun 2015 #73

LMAO. The Head Start bill never even came to a vote in the Senate. merrily Jun 2015 #77

So you agree with the GOP then? TM99 Jun 2015 #81

Ucrdem nice politically bait. These bill of rights are still fresh in my mind and it's filled with.. TRoN33 Jun 2015 #18

Possibly but the Homeland Security and Defense Dept authorizations didn't? ucrdem Jun 2015 #23

Desperation reeks. Once war is declared, not funding would be heinous. Ask Kerry. And Hillary. merrily Jun 2015 #33

Voting to authorize funding it is tantamount to authorizing the war. ucrdem Jun 2015 #38

Like HELL. Dude, the hole you've been digging is way deep enough. Stop digging. merrily Jun 2015 #69

You can find these bills in the Congressional Record. leftofcool Jun 2015 #61

WARNING: Republican Flamebait OP Depaysement Jun 2015 #32

OP is perfectly accurate and speaking of accuracy ucrdem Jun 2015 #34

Not this tired shit again too. TM99 Jun 2015 #40

Nevertheless it is not accurate to call him a Democrat, and it's within his power to change that. ucrdem Jun 2015 #42

No one calls him a Democrat. TM99 Jun 2015 #49

The post I responded to calls him a Democrat. ucrdem Jun 2015 #54

He has changed it and the DNC agrees he's a Democrat. merrily Jun 2015 #173

No, they agree he's a "challenger." Big difference. ucrdem Jun 2015 #183

You understand that they mean challenging Hillary for the Dem Presidential nom, right? merrily Jun 2015 #193

I understand that you're claiming something that isn't true. ucrdem Jun 2015 #197

No, you're the one whose claims are not true. merrily Jun 2015 #231

Wrong. DNC already included Sanders as their quartet Chickaletta Jun 2015 #363

What's with the "republicon smear job" accusation when you're only posting his voting record? Cha Jun 2015 #43

That is NOT what the OP is doing Depaysement Jun 2015 #158

He's running for the Democratic Presidential nomination Depaysement Jun 2015 #44

No it isn't! Those ARE his votes! leftofcool Jun 2015 #66

Read the bill Depaysement Jun 2015 #150

So? Sponsors don't matter when we need things. leftofcool Jun 2015 #296

You don't get it Depaysement Jun 2015 #311

Correct! He is not a Democrat. leftofcool Jun 2015 #63

LOL, who are you and ucrdem to contradict the DNC on that point? merrily Jun 2015 #163

You got alerted on: cwydro Jun 2015 #199

Thanks. 0 to 7 to leave it. Thanks, Juror 7: "The most unwarranted alert I've seen." merrily Jun 2015 #226

Um, yes he is. The DNC immediately used his unofficial announcement to fund raise for itsself. merrily Jun 2015 #76

Yeah, the DNC may turn out to be sorry they did that! SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #254

I believe that as well. merrily Jun 2015 #265

"They've simply been treating Hillary as though she were an incumbent." SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #280

Which was about 42.5 seconds after he announced unofficially that he was running as a Democrat. merrily Jun 2015 #295

What about these voting bills is a smear? Are they true or not? leftofcool Jun 2015 #55

Read the fucking facts in the thread TM99 Jun 2015 #65

Bernie is NOT a Democrat! leftofcool Jun 2015 #67

He isn't third way either! Omaha Steve Jun 2015 #159

Take that up with Debbie Wasserman Schultz. The DNC thinks Bernie is a Democrat. merrily Jun 2015 #174

The DNC calls Sanders lots of nice things, ucrdem Jun 2015 #184

Yeah, right. The DNC is praising someone from another party to the skies and raising money off him merrily Jun 2015 #210

And never do they call Sanders a Democrat. Thanks for posting the evidence. nt ucrdem Jun 2015 #216

BECAUSE ANYONE WOULD REALIZE THAT FROM WHAT THEY DID SAY THAT THEY WERE WELCOMING A DEMOCRAT merrily Jun 2015 #221

They never call Sanders a Democrat because he isn't. nt ucrdem Jun 2015 #224

Please stop repeating yourself endlessly. I've already admitted I don't know how to help you merrily Jun 2015 #229

Here's how: Show where the DNC identifies Sanders as a Democrat. nt ucrdem Jun 2015 #234

I did. You apparently can't get that. And that inability of yours is what I cannot help you with. merrily Jun 2015 #238

They very clearly do NOT identify Sanders as a Dem in that email. nt ucrdem Jun 2015 #240

So you think having a D next to a name and voting for corporate interests makes a candidate a Dem? HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #186

Having a D does, yes. It's really not that complicated. nt ucrdem Jun 2015 #249

So having a D and supporting corporate interests HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #260

We care about more than that as Democrats. leftofcool Jun 2015 #298

Then why are the Hillary shills so desparate? HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #305

We are not worried. I think her poll number can attest to that. leftofcool Jun 2015 #308

When they start using the insult "shills".. they are the ones who are "desperate". Cha Jun 2015 #337

Yes this all seems so familiar. In fact the Guardian hearts guess who? ucrdem Jun 2015 #344

Aloha, ucr~ Cha Jun 2015 #368

That's really funny davidpdx Jun 2015 #345

+1 Marr Jun 2015 #255

Bravo Kalidurga Jun 2015 #35

Did Bernie vote against these things or not? leftofcool Jun 2015 #56

I see you. Kalidurga Jun 2015 #83

It's a good thing they're outing themselves early. HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #190

I have no problem with that. Kalidurga Jun 2015 #200

No answer I see. leftofcool Jun 2015 #299

Yep-- I thought I noticed a similarity myself. /nt Marr Jun 2015 #256

Death of credibility by OP, or political suttee is how it struck me Divernan Jun 2015 #59

Hillary supporters are losing credibility everyday. Kalidurga Jun 2015 #84

Mahalo for doing the research, ucr. We should know the record of history on all candidates.. Cha Jun 2015 #36

Thanks Cha! ucrdem Jun 2015 #39

Read reply #1 Cha. This isn't an honest OP. It is true, but not honest. Bernie voted the way most Ds peacebird Jun 2015 #52

It was a $35 billion Head Start funding bill. In the event, it passed. ucrdem Jun 2015 #62

Shit stirring is fine and well, but as reply #1 clearly showed Bernie voted along with most Dems peacebird Jun 2015 #80

Did you even look at how other Democrats voted? marym625 Jun 2015 #162

Only the House and only by 1 vote. In didn't come to a vote in the Senate. merrily Jun 2015 #176

He didn't do the research. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #105

Nope. The bs smear job was provided to OP to distribute. HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #196

Oh? Please share your evidence. Surely you can back up such a baldly false claim? ucrdem Jun 2015 #202

You looked up 15 years of Bernies voting record? HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #211

Links are posted and your claim is laughably false. But in an endearing way. ucrdem Jun 2015 #215

So, you are in favor of Republican legislation? HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #220

So, walking back your false claim that the OP was provided to me? Can't blame you. ucrdem Jun 2015 #223

Were you just called a Hillary employee, ucrdem? sheshe2 Jun 2015 #338

Yes it's news to me but I can always use another job! ucrdem Jun 2015 #343

READER BEWARE OF THE INFO IN THE OP. merrily Jun 2015 #41

War hadn't been declared. The AUMF and funding votes were on the same day. nt ucrdem Jun 2015 #45

OMG. He voted against the war. It was declared. He voted for funding because voting NAY would have merrily Jun 2015 #64

The AUMF and funding votes were on October 10, 2002. Bush declared war on March 19, 2003. ucrdem Jun 2015 #85

We all know when the war started, which is what your link tells us. Also, your very own Reply 45 merrily Jun 2015 #108

AUMF and DoD funding votes were both on Oct 10, 2002. Bush declared war five months later. ucrdem Jun 2015 #119

What part of "irrelevant" did you not get? merrily Jun 2015 #122

PS, I'm guessing your subject line should read 2002 not 2012. merrily Jun 2015 #129

fixed it, thanks. nt ucrdem Jun 2015 #133

BTW, the President doesn't declare war. Congress does, then the President acts as CIC. merrily Jun 2015 #139

The fact is that Sanders voted up the money five months in advance of the bombs. ucrdem Jun 2015 #146

So you are anti-war and anti-military? TM99 Jun 2015 #152

He knew where the money was going because it was the same day as AUMF. nt ucrdem Jun 2015 #155

You did not answer the question. TM99 Jun 2015 #157

I'm guessing he knew where the money was going Mnpaul Jun 2015 #180

Your claims about the relation between war votes and funding votes are a total non starter. merrily Jun 2015 #154

Sorry, that's the way it went down. nt ucrdem Jun 2015 #156

Yep. 100% righteously on Bernie's part, but not on Hillary's. Please see my edit. merrily Jun 2015 #160

Thank you. This poster has clearly been exposed. Broward Jun 2015 #86

Not a problem. merrily Jun 2015 #104

You've really had your ass handed to you on this thread. That must hurt. Scuba Jun 2015 #58

I'm bookmarking this thread. Autumn Jun 2015 #214

Her supporters are showing the famous Hillary Clinton Family Values Katashi_itto Jun 2015 #334

Yeah but it's the Bernie supporters who are the problem Autumn Jun 2015 #335

Yes, those Bernie Supporters are Awful. Katashi_itto Jun 2015 #336

Makes me wonder what the Republican poison pills were Warpy Jun 2015 #60

Isn't it amazing! yallerdawg Jun 2015 #70

Thanks, I am now 100% behind Hillary because she has never voted in a way that could be taken out of corkhead Jun 2015 #71

Let's continue shall we? H.R.1036 -- Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act ucrdem Jun 2015 #74

Purpose: To protect manufacturers, distributors, dealers, or importers of firearms or ammunition ucrdem Jun 2015 #79

This is the one that really gets to me. leftofcool Jun 2015 #95

Yes, I noticed that it's languishing on the vine. Can't say I'm surprised. ucrdem Jun 2015 #187

Ya know DonCoquixote Jun 2015 #82

Pile of caca de toro post. hobbit709 Jun 2015 #87

Too bad your Hillary logo doesn't have the blood of 1,000,000+ Iraqi KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #90

excellent job by the responders to refute these ridiculous claims rurallib Jun 2015 #91

Nobody's refuting HR 1036 - Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms. Which is a problem. nt ucrdem Jun 2015 #93

you throw enough shit on the wall some sticks? rurallib Jun 2015 #94

You pretty much nailed it. hobbit709 Jun 2015 #101

All of it sticks because it is true. leftofcool Jun 2015 #102

I'm saying there are some votes Sanders' supporters don't seem to want to talk about. ucrdem Jun 2015 #103

Having listened to Sanders for years on the Hartmann show rurallib Jun 2015 #118

And Hillary supporters want to talk about all her votes? Really? merrily Jun 2015 #170

Unsubstantiated? The go in the Congressional Record. leftofcool Jun 2015 #99

Smear attempt debunked per usual. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #98

Where is HR 1036 "debunked per usual"? ucrdem Jun 2015 #106

What, a bill that's not even in your OP? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #111

It's in there, with a link to Sanders' vote. Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act: ucrdem Jun 2015 #113

I sit corrected. Only 90% of your OP has been debunked in comments so far. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #116

Unless it's been debunked 125% it doesn't count to the poster hobbit709 Jun 2015 #138

Actually, not even then. truebluegreen Jun 2015 #271

Anyone who was on DU in those days knows... ms liberty Jun 2015 #107

Okay thank you. Now how about HR 1036? ucrdem Jun 2015 #110

You got owned on this thread. TM99 Jun 2015 #114

Fine, refuse to discuss the rest of the OP. I don't blame you. nt ucrdem Jun 2015 #115

The rest of the OP was refuted in detail. hobbit709 Jun 2015 #117

Link? ucrdem Jun 2015 #120

Try reading the replies in your flamebait thread. hobbit709 Jun 2015 #123

Didn't think so. ucrdem Jun 2015 #131

I stand corrected. TM99 Jun 2015 #124

That's the one that gives immunity to arms manufacturers. ucrdem Jun 2015 #128

I don't have a problem with it. TM99 Jun 2015 #132

It sort of blows Sanders' liberal left cred to smithereens doesn't it? ucrdem Jun 2015 #136

So all liberals want to get rid of the 2nd Amendment? TM99 Jun 2015 #144

Not at all. He's ranked THE #1 most liberal Senator in the US Senate, even with those votes. merrily Jun 2015 #179

You keep forgetting to support your claims. nt ucrdem Jun 2015 #192

THIS OP & RESULTING DISCUSSION Blus4u Jun 2015 #149

Are you seriously lecturing TM99 Jun 2015 #153

Total desperation and now the convenient lie is, "gee everyone here likes to fight, because I say so." Rex Jun 2015 #320

This. Bobbie Jo Jun 2015 #169

How many times do you think you deserve a response-- really? Marr Jun 2015 #264

Lol. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #348

Gee, four identical OPs, same author, in GD. djean111 Jun 2015 #127

links? ucrdem Jun 2015 #130

Oh, I meant that this would show up in a search and easily linked to. Why four of these? djean111 Jun 2015 #134

Sorry but what four are you talking about? ucrdem Jun 2015 #137

If I click on latest threads, this thread shows up multiple times, with varying numbers of djean111 Jun 2015 #142

Hmm. That's not something I planned or intended. ucrdem Jun 2015 #147

I can't believe I wasted my life reading this thread titaniumsalute Jun 2015 #141

Oh, I thought it was quite educational Oilwellian Jun 2015 #167

It's a common theme. HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #204

2003 HR 2210...How did Sen Clinton Vote? fredamae Jun 2015 #151

It's a things if beauty watching the Hillary Camp try and try and try. morningfog Jun 2015 #161

You are correct. Bernie Sanders record is even better than most already know. marym625 Jun 2015 #165

and Thank you for posting that! SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #250

You are welcome marym625 Jun 2015 #251

Thank you Senator Sanders, then Congressman Sanders MuseRider Jun 2015 #166

+1000 marym625 Jun 2015 #177

I genuinely like the OP and understand his motivation... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #168

You beat me to it... Bobbie Jo Jun 2015 #171

People love to fight on this board. It is what it is./NT DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #172

True that. nt Bobbie Jo Jun 2015 #185

Just noting it. No sense trying to interrupt them.nt DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #188

This thread has been very illuminating. demmiblue Jun 2015 #181

Yep, to put out the truth about some guy with magic fairy dust. leftofcool Jun 2015 #300

More like lies covered with manure and flies davidpdx Jun 2015 #347

Ahhh...What lengths certain Katashi_itto Jun 2015 #191

K & R, good post, truths are sometimes hard to handle. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #194

Thank you! ucrdem Jun 2015 #245

"I did not know voting records is a smear but to some maybe." SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #258

There is a limit on how much can be given, ergo the links was given. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #279

Yeah, and as far as I can make out SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #286

Then be happy with Bernie's votes, what is with the smear post? Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #290

Are you saying *I* posted a smear? SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #306

No, you did bring in smear but it is in this thread. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #309

Whatever. nt SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #312

He voted against Republican legislation. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #195

OP obviously supports Republican legislation. HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #267

Bernie obviously supports Republican legislation also. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #284

OP posted he voted against it, along with Dem caucus. HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #301

That's it, I'm changing my vote to Hillary! Gregorian Jun 2015 #198

Nice try. FAIL! nt ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2015 #203

You know, that doesn't mean he's opposed to head start BainsBane Jun 2015 #205

Yes, I think we've covered Head Start. How about giving immunity to arms dealers ucrdem Jun 2015 #209

That is a clearly unacceptable vote BainsBane Jun 2015 #237

They won't answer that one. leftofcool Jun 2015 #302

With social media operatives this dishonest.... HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #213

Indeed. Are Hillary supporters hurting their candidate? nt Bonobo Jun 2015 #219

Enjoy your golden opportunity to bore us all day. ucrdem Jun 2015 #222

+1 Marr Jun 2015 #247

This OP and OP's resposes are totally pizza worthy imo. n/t PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #225

My reposes are fine but thanks for the suggestion. nt ucrdem Jun 2015 #232

You're pizza worthy for saying that. MoonRiver Jun 2015 #235

You can't be serious? BainsBane Jun 2015 #239

Tos "do not be republican" PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #241

You go ahead and take that up with Skinner BainsBane Jun 2015 #243

I will second that! nt sheshe2 Jun 2015 #349

Could not agree more. Marr Jun 2015 #246

Hillary supporters deserve pizza here? sheshe2 Jun 2015 #350

No, people stumping for Repuke bills deserve pizza. nt PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #352

Not what happened... sheshe2 Jun 2015 #353

That is exactly what happened. n/t PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #354

Oh, yeah it is-- your buddy changed his title and entire post after Marr Jun 2015 #358

I want to know how the OP TM99 Jun 2015 #361

Yeah, really-- what the hell? Marr Jun 2015 #366

I asked in ATA about missing edits yesterday. PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #370

At least OP has outed themself as a dishonest corporatist shill. HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #266

^^^this^^^ L0oniX Jun 2015 #272

2-5 to LEAVE IT. L0oniX Jun 2015 #268

Thanks. PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #275

I would have voted Leave It. HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #277

Desperate about sums it up. /nt Marr Jun 2015 #278

alert results grasswire Jun 2015 #283

#7 PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #289

2003, wasn't that the year Bush got his war on, thanks to Hillary Clinton, in part? SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #236

LOL, Hillary supporters are getting really nervous. nt Logical Jun 2015 #242

Im a Hillary Supporter, but WTF? Adrahil Jun 2015 #244

Actually it is the small arms bill that is the problem. leftofcool Jun 2015 #307

You had to dig up stuff over a decade old? Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #253

and the stuff dug up actually proves Sanders to be a fighter for the people and against the GOP. marym625 Jun 2015 #257

There is that too. Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #259

Yes. OP is an epic fail. HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #262

OP Fail. Agschmid Jun 2015 #261

... whatchamacallit Jun 2015 #263

Jury results from an earlier alert, for those interested. nc4bo Jun 2015 #269

Thanks for posting that. ucrdem Jun 2015 #273

That was cowardly. Marr Jun 2015 #285

I love watching these dishonest OPs push away people they pretend to be trying to get on their side. Rex Jun 2015 #319

#4 got it right. HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #281

Are you saying Sanders voting record is dishonest? leftofcool Jun 2015 #303

Examples cited in OP, where Sanders voted with majority of Dems... HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #310

Epic and tragic fail. L0oniX Jun 2015 #274

How I long for an UNREC button - nt KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #291

He represents his state well madville Jun 2015 #292

Really? That bill affected the entire country. leftofcool Jun 2015 #304

Groups were trying to sue gun manufacturers out of business madville Jun 2015 #325

Here's partial list of House Dems who voted to fund DOD like Sanders in the same Oct 10, 2002 vote Depaysement Jun 2015 #314

In 2003, Rep. Sanders voted AGAINST Head Start, AGAINST a jobs bill-- THE ORIGINAL POST hobbit709 Jun 2015 #315

Read the bill and look at the sponsors nt Depaysement Jun 2015 #316

Ah, I love watching a few 'dedicated' people push more and more folks into the Bernie camp! Rex Jun 2015 #318

Best example of Crash and Bern I've seen yet. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #322

You left out the first AUMF authorization in 2001. Only Barbara Lee voted against in 2001: freshwest Jun 2015 #327

Holy wow, this onion has many layers! ucrdem Jun 2015 #342

I keep remembering a line: 'The world is not a nice place. And these are not nice people.' Speaking freshwest Jun 2015 #346

Jeez matt819 Jun 2015 #328

Sums up my feelings as well. Neither are perfect, but will gladly support the primary winner Elwood P Dowd Jun 2015 #330

Spot on ucrdem! William769 Jun 2015 #332

Thanks William! ucrdem Jun 2015 #340

I think it took me an hour to get thru the thread. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #351

Bottom line: Sanders has an F rating from the NRA and this is nowhere near advocating for a merrily Jun 2015 #355

Why doesn't this post show it's edit history? Marr Jun 2015 #367

The Hillary borg breached the space-time continuum and folded GD into a mojogon. ucrdem Jun 2015 #369