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NanceGreggs

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105. No other candidate?

Mon Jun 22, 2015, 02:39 AM

Jun 2015

What did you think was the thrust of Obama's campaign in 2008? What did you think, "Yes, WE can" was all about?

What did you think, "WE are the ones WE'VE been waiting for" meant?

The problem was that the minute Obama was elected, "we" became "him" for many here. "Why isn't HE doing something about this? Why isn't HE achieving everything he said he'd do?"

This need for Sanders supporters to believe that he is the first politician to promote the idea that it takes "the people" to effect change is absolutely startling.

"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what YOU can do for your country." I guess you've never heard of that one either?

Bernie is very adept at highlighting the importance of the wheel - there's no need to pretend he invented it.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] bigtree Jun 2015 OP

Why the umm...? catnhatnh Jun 2015 #1

that has to be the stupidest defense of his jackass statement that anyone will ever offer. bigtree Jun 2015 #2

Why didn't you make those phrases and words part of your OP? cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #38

why should they have been? bigtree Jun 2015 #44

I feigned? Where did I feign? Show me where I feigned. Feign? cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #70

first you complain about my opinion I expressed bigtree Jun 2015 #73

Did you just feign? cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #74

You know what, I was 100% behind you and followed your Ferguson commentary with interest... ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2015 #39

yeah, well if I base my politics on Sanders supporters here bigtree Jun 2015 #43

No YOU save it! I don't care about any of that shit. I'm not bashing Hillary or you so your ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2015 #45

no actual defenses on this thread from Sanders supporters bigtree Jun 2015 #48

If you're getting attacked, it's probably because you're asking for it! YOU STOP IT! Not ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2015 #49

No, your behavior is your own responsibility bigtree Jun 2015 #51

My behavior isn't the subject here, yours is. I'm not getting attacked for attacking Hillary. And ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2015 #61

bullshit bigtree Jun 2015 #67

This was sarcasm, right? Raine1967 Jun 2015 #80

Just when I thought I was getting over my repulsion for Hillary supporters up pops a bigtree. Snotcicles Jun 2015 #3

joke's on you and your personal attack bigtree Jun 2015 #4

I'll correct it. Make it Sanders Basher's. nt Snotcicles Jun 2015 #7

I haven't seen ONE criticism of Sanders that his supporters have accepted bigtree Jun 2015 #11

It's the inflammatory language you use that repulses me. Snotcicles Jun 2015 #15

I was just laughing out loud bigtree Jun 2015 #21

Most find it imagintive and funny. And I want to apologize for hurting your feelings earlier. nt Snotcicles Jun 2015 #42

it is funny bigtree Jun 2015 #50

Can you elaborate? Raine1967 Jun 2015 #81

That's what so many love about Bernie. He isn't afraid whopis01 Jun 2015 #5

Huh? I think you are way over-analyzing some pretty innocuous campaign rhetoric. Vattel Jun 2015 #6

How did I over-analyze it by pointing out that it had, indeed been said by the others? bigtree Jun 2015 #10

Calling what he said a "jackass statement" Vattel Jun 2015 #14

oh, I thought you actually meant 'over-analyzing' bigtree Jun 2015 #22

my bad, I should be nicer. Vattel Jun 2015 #64

I also liked this part of O'Malley's speech Andy823 Jun 2015 #8

It's a catchy hook whatchamacallit Jun 2015 #9

Wow MFrohike Jun 2015 #12

Well, sad for you.. you "think" wrong. Cha Jun 2015 #17

Clearly MFrohike Jun 2015 #19

so he didn't actually tell his crowd that the other candidates won't tell them bigtree Jun 2015 #25

Comedy MFrohike Jun 2015 #27

oh, so you just insinuated that I was a paid operative bigtree Jun 2015 #32

No, I was pretty clear MFrohike Jun 2015 #41

oh, I get your intent bigtree Jun 2015 #54

Heh MFrohike Jun 2015 #56

so, no actual setting the record straight for Bernie? bigtree Jun 2015 #23

No one accused you of being a paid troll MFrohike Jun 2015 #26

no, you just insulted me personally, up and down bigtree Jun 2015 #33

Up and down? MFrohike Jun 2015 #40

I'm not your 'bud' bigtree Jun 2015 #55

Awesome MFrohike Jun 2015 #65

and, I'm certainly not your 'pal' bigtree Jun 2015 #68

Really? MFrohike Jun 2015 #72

I believe Bernie and O'Malley. SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #13

+1 nt Snotcicles Jun 2015 #16

Thanks bigtree.. Bernie got that one wrong. Cha Jun 2015 #18

Do you want a count of how many wrongs who did when? SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #20

oh, god bigtree Jun 2015 #24

what? SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #53

Bernie said the others would not say it treestar Jun 2015 #60

Bernie is less wrong than his opponent right now. Pay Attention. SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #62

Yes, Bernie made a "self-serving" statement and he's not perfect in other areas and some of his Cha Jun 2015 #103

Asinine OP. nt Bonobo Jun 2015 #28

Good lord, that's weak parsing of a pretty standard stump line. AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #29

Great OP ismnotwasm Jun 2015 #30

You have no idea how delighted I am to see you putting yourself "out there". Bonobo Jun 2015 #47

it's one of those things just about everyone says and shouldn't be taken so literally JI7 Jun 2015 #31

I think I need a guide bigtree Jun 2015 #34

Reaching for the popcorn nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #35

May I suggest a hobby? Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #36

I see you're doing something constructive with your time bigtree Jun 2015 #57

Don't be silly. Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #97

I heard on DU that Bernie is a bigot who humps gunz & eats baby brains!!! U4ikLefty Jun 2015 #37

You should delete this OP. Bonobo Jun 2015 #46

because you disagree with it? bigtree Jun 2015 #58

Wow, you have a short memory. No, it is because I THOUGHT you Bonobo Jun 2015 #66

that was about politically exploiting murders bigtree Jun 2015 #77

I'm afraid you have lost any chance for respect from me. nt Bonobo Jun 2015 #82

What on Earth is going on DU? Tea Potty Jun 2015 #104

God, the rage over this fairly innocuous sufrommich Jun 2015 #52

Bigtree said of Sanders" ."..the arrogance, egotism, and self-delusion in that statement..." Bonobo Jun 2015 #69

This is absolutely silly sadoldgirl Jun 2015 #59

it's great oratory bigtree Jun 2015 #71

Well, I have not heard any of the other sadoldgirl Jun 2015 #75

I posted similar statements about running for the people who would vote for them bigtree Jun 2015 #78

You still don't get it, I think sadoldgirl Jun 2015 #84

Trash the thread, put OP on ignore. Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #63

FFS Separation Jun 2015 #76

I love the way defenders of Sanders throw Hillary into the mix bigtree Jun 2015 #79

Pssst....dude.... TM99 Jun 2015 #85

EVERY candidate says that kind of thing. At the firefighters union event, O'Malley stated that no merrily Jun 2015 #83

--Most of them are saying the same things Bernie has been saying for 40 years -- SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #87

Campaign rhetoric is based in some measure on how issues poll. Polls try to merrily Jun 2015 #89

Steadfast and true, yes they have been. SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #90

I hope and believe that one of them will be the nominee and will win the general. merrily Jun 2015 #92

Lol! that got me laughing out loud. SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #93

Small point JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #108

Just to be fair to O'Malley, that's not what he said. herding cats Jun 2015 #88

Okay, the article I read may have paraphrased that. Sincere apologies, but, to be fair to merrily, merrily Jun 2015 #91

For what it might be worth, I didn't read you as trying to bash O'Malley at all. herding cats Jun 2015 #94

It never occurred to me that you were trying to bash me and I do very much appreciate the merrily Jun 2015 #95

This is another reason why I will be voting for Sanders in 2016. jmarston1914r Jun 2015 #86

bigtree I think I'm falling in love! William769 Jun 2015 #96

There's a bit more to what he said than what you selected, he told us that Autumn Jun 2015 #98

Thanks for the rest of the quote. morningfog Jun 2015 #99

No other candidate told us that we the people would have to create Autumn Jun 2015 #100

No other candidate? NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #105

"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what YOU can do for your country." Well done, Nance. Cha Jun 2015 #107

You, too, ignored the part about taking the country back from the billionaires. morningfog Jun 2015 #109

Of course a Clinton supporter TM99 Jun 2015 #101

You. Nailed. It. Admiral Loinpresser Jun 2015 #102

Next time try to write down the full quote please. Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #106

I'm going to take Bonobo's advice and end this thread. It's a mess bigtree Jun 2015 #110