General Discussion

boston bean

(36,912 posts)

38. Honor killings could include men who feel they have been dissed by

Mon Jun 22, 2015, 08:09 AM

Jun 2015

their wife, and then kill the entire family off.

I think the reason we don't see much outrage is because we are use to seeing females being murdered on a daily basis because men feel they have been somehow wronged.

It probably has less to islam than it does the way the way women are viewed as victims in these crimes... They don't get the coverage they deserve.. Here in the US or anywhere else. Common link is they are women.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

68 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Two girls murdered in Texas taxi: Were they honor killings? [View all] arely staircase Jun 2015 OP

Just a lone wolf.... brooklynite Jun 2015 #1

K&R & a small sob nt riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #2

"Science flies you to the moon and back. hifiguy Jun 2015 #3

One wonders if the victims of the Charleston church shooting would have agreed with that sentiment.. LanternWaste Jun 2015 #6

And another thread about women in America drops like a stone riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #4

+1000 smirkymonkey Jun 2015 #10

Such as post 21, "Papa whacked his kids" NO he murdered his DAUGHTERS Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #22

No. Brickbat Jun 2015 #5

yeah, 'honor' doesn't belong in the term for what this is nr arely staircase Jun 2015 #8

Just disgusting. n/t prayin4rain Jun 2015 #7

Vanity can be really really dumb some times. lpbk2713 Jun 2015 #9

The narcissistic injury makes no sense from the outside (nt) Recursion Jun 2015 #32

Even Yahoo has more outrage about this than we do here. smirkymonkey Jun 2015 #11

The accused perp is Muslim Ex Lurker Jun 2015 #12

Of course, cultural relativism and all that. smirkymonkey Jun 2015 #17

Yes. Thank you. whathehell Jun 2015 #26

There's been some discussion here in the past struggle4progress Jun 2015 #21

What more can be said?! chervilant Jun 2015 #30

This behavior is not exclusive to Islam okasha Jun 2015 #13

I shit on your post. "Crimes of Passion" are between jilted LOVERS, not dads and their daughters Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #14

You can shit in tbe middle of your livingroom rug for all I care. okasha Jun 2015 #15

Okasha: "This behavior is not exclusive to Islam or to Third World cultures." Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #16

+1000 smirkymonkey Jun 2015 #18

Agreed 100% romanic Jun 2015 #19

+100. nt whathehell Jun 2015 #27

Because we call them "family annihilators" here (nt) Recursion Jun 2015 #34

Sort of. When it happens in an Islamic context we call it an honor killing Recursion Jun 2015 #33

"I know how to invent an "Honor Killings" equivalent for the WEST - A new MADE UP word!!! Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #52

If you think I coined it you should probably read up on the subject (nt) Recursion Jun 2015 #53

The "I'm smarter than you" argument. CLASSY! Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #54

Not true, actually. Honor killings = domestic violence often. yardwork Jun 2015 #37

"Honor" killings are perpetrated because the killer believes the women are being unchaste. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #41

A USA dad can "honor kill" his daughter for refusing the husband he picked for her? Really? Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #50

Honor killings could include men who feel they have been dissed by boston bean Jun 2015 #38

Was just waiting for the leftynyc Jun 2015 #20

Clean 180 degree miss. okasha Jun 2015 #23

No -it's just more deflection leftynyc Jun 2015 #24

three women a day are murdered by their boyfriend or husband... boston bean Jun 2015 #39

Compare and contrast...objectively... tkmorris Jun 2015 #49

It takes a herculean effort to clean up after your falsifications Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #25

Again, "honor" killings are all but unheard of in the West, so whathehell Jun 2015 #28

No, they really aren't. Google "family annihilators" (nt) Recursion Jun 2015 #35

Family annihilation in the West is rare, and perhaps whathehell Jun 2015 #47

You are giving cover to the asshole honor besmirched killers here in the US. Why? boston bean Jun 2015 #40

I have no idea what you're talking about whathehell Jun 2015 #45

So, the types of killing I describe aren't committed against a woman? boston bean Jun 2015 #46

So now we're broadening the topic to include the entire subject of violence against women? whathehell Jun 2015 #56

But it does happen... boston bean Jun 2015 #57

Um, no. American and European families of non-Islamic heritage don't murder their kids for "honor" whathehell Jun 2015 #59

This thread is the conversational equivalent of an M.C. Escher lithograph Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #60

'The mind bending futility of modernity'. Yes, I agree! whathehell Jun 2015 #62

... Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #64

+1 Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #58

Given this egregious response, chervilant Jun 2015 #29

Very chilling Separation Jun 2015 #31

“Family Annihilators”: Understanding What Drives Fathers to Kill Recursion Jun 2015 #36

Family annihilators kill because they feel they are no longer the head of the household. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #42

That's the exact same thing Recursion Jun 2015 #43

I see a difference. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #44

I guess I see the "sin" in the Islamic case as secondary: he does it from shame Recursion Jun 2015 #51

PC precludes further comment. WinkyDink Jun 2015 #48

Honor Killings = Girls killed. Family Annihiliation = Boys and Girls killed. Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #55

You do realize Muslim fathers sometimes kill their sons, right? Recursion Jun 2015 #61

Yes, but again, this is not sanctionred, legally OR culturally in the West. whathehell Jul 2015 #65

Where is it "sanctioned" in southwest Asia? Imams issue fatwas against it Recursion Jul 2015 #66

Obviously, soutwest Asia is a small part of the Islamic World.. whathehell Jul 2015 #67

No, they were hate crimes. Gender-based murders should carry Federal penalties, as hate crimes. pnwmom Jun 2015 #63

They used to.. whathehell Jul 2015 #68