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limpyhobbler

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27. Such slogans are used to pit working people against each other and benefit only the bosses.
Tue May 15, 2012, 03:51 AM
May 2012

The bosses and owners like it when native born workers fear immigrants and see them as the enemy.

Reality is it would be much better for US-born workers to join forces with Mexican-born workers to demand a better deal for all of us.

Not only Mexicans but the same is true for exmaple for US high tech workers and workers in India, who work over the Internet so they don't even need H1-Bs for that, in some cases.

Debates about H1-B's and immigration controls are legitimate. But in my opinion that is not going to end well if we base our struggle as US-born workers around the issue of keeping foreigners out.

Money is always going to go where wages are cheap. If we build a giant electric fence to keep Mexicans out, it's just going to increase the misery. It's not going to keep them out if they are determined to come.

Instead we ought to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with the Mexican-born workers, or workers in India, and demand a better deal for all of us. As a side benefit, we'll feel much better about ourselves than we would if we used our energy vocally complaining about foreigners all the time.

Just my 2 cents.

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My view is that your view plays nicely into the hands of those who want to drive down wages HiPointDem May 2012 #1
there is no mention of driving down wages. Sea-Dog May 2012 #7
See, that's how the union-busters and wage cutters try to get people to stop talking about HiPointDem May 2012 #15
Any argument that subordinates the interests of American workers is inherently failed at its core Zalatix May 2012 #34
Immigrants are citizens or are seeking citizenship. lumberjack_jeff May 2012 #9
It's been used in a racist context, but at face value rucky May 2012 #2
It's a phrase used by the right in doublespeak liberal N proud May 2012 #3
Then what is "Free Trade" FreakinDJ May 2012 #4
It is. It's just that the right poisoned the saying with racism, so now anyone who says it is HiPointDem May 2012 #5
that's because it is Sea-Dog May 2012 #8
Nope, it's not. But the union-busters and wage-cutters would like you to perpetuate that meme. HiPointDem May 2012 #14
So why don't you give up your American job and give it to someone outside the country? Zalatix May 2012 #20
So you're saying Trillo May 2012 #6
that's what your saying Sea-Dog May 2012 #11
You just don't like American workers having jobs. Admit it. It galls you. Zalatix May 2012 #19
My view? Damn right. lumberjack_jeff May 2012 #10
what you've got against them is that they are foreign. Sea-Dog May 2012 #12
I doubt he has anything against "them" at all. But he probably has something against the HiPointDem May 2012 #16
What you've got against Americans is that they're American. Zalatix May 2012 #18
Couldn't have said it any better myself :) Rochester May 2012 #13
The alternative is to discriminate against American workers and cut them out of the global economy. Zalatix May 2012 #17
I get the sense that this OP is sarcastic flamebait RZM May 2012 #21
Ever notice how the free traders never answer you when you ask Zalatix May 2012 #22
It's something of a sore spot here RZM May 2012 #26
Free trade sucks. white_wolf May 2012 #23
Yup, free trade is pro slavery. Zalatix May 2012 #24
Exactly. Starry Messenger May 2012 #31
couldnt have put it better myself Sea-Dog May 2012 #39
American jobs for American and resident alien workers. ingac70 May 2012 #25
Such slogans are used to pit working people against each other and benefit only the bosses. limpyhobbler May 2012 #27
Foreigners do a damned good job of keeping American workers out. Zalatix May 2012 #29
Unfortunately, there's a deep racist, nativist vein running through America that this taps into. baldguy May 2012 #28
Beware the Corporatist Neo-Liberal framing. Odin2005 May 2012 #30
It's anti-illegal immigration WinniSkipper May 2012 #32
Too over the top. 2/10. nt Romulox May 2012 #33
American jobs for American workers Hubert Flottz May 2012 #35
What other kind of jobs could there be for American Workers? cherokeeprogressive May 2012 #36
American workers need American jobs jp11 May 2012 #37
This is a play on the British Jobs For British Workers thing, right? Bluenorthwest May 2012 #38
.... maria2 May 2012 #40
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