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ecstatic

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58. Generous financial incentives for anyone willing to

Mon Jun 22, 2015, 03:16 PM

Jun 2015

turn in/report the remaining hold outs. The people turned in would be arrested and charged with a felony. Again, I know it's very harsh sounding. It's an extraordinary solution to an extraordinary problem.

By the way, only 23% of Americans are gun owners. I have friends and family who own guns but I know they'd do the right thing when the time came to turn them in, as would the majority of the 23%.

One in three people in the U.S. know someone who has been shot.

On average, 31 Americans are murdered with guns every day and 151 are treated for a gun assault in an emergency room.

Every day on average, 55 people kill themselves with a firearm, and 46 people are shot or killed in an accident with a gun.

The U.S. firearm homicide rate is 20 times higher than the combined rates of 22 countries that are our peers in wealth and population.

http://www.bradycampaign.org/about-gun-violence

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Step 1: ban the manufacture of handguns [View all] XemaSab Jun 2015 OP

Prohibition doesn't work. Gregorian Jun 2015 #1

I do not see the ideas proposed in the OP as "prohibition". salib Jun 2015 #34

I see your point. It's probably good to work both ends of this, too. Gregorian Jun 2015 #42

Second Amendment LittleBlue Jun 2015 #2

Would they still be manufactured for police forces ? theycallmetrinity Jun 2015 #3

unless the 2nd is repealed rdking647 Jun 2015 #4

Which of those steps actually violates the second amendment? nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #9

An effective ban on guns is unconstitutional the same as Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #10

Where's the effective ban? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #11

You can play coy little semantic games but that's al they'll ever be. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #12

"OMG! We're limited to a maximum of 250 million guns!!! That's an 'effective ban'!!!! Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #13

So, as soon as the number of guns dips below 250 million you'll lift the restrictions? Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #14

Nope. At the point at which gun stores run out of guns to sell, though, Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #16

Why only one? Different types of guns serve different functions. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #18

The vast majority of people don't need 'different functions'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #20

Neither you or anyone else is the arbitrator of what other people need. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #22

It's amazing how poorly you read. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #23

the right to bear arms shall not be infringed rdking647 Jun 2015 #25

You want to ban guns, you just lack the courage and integrity to admit it. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #38

Checkmate. ProgressiveEconomist Jun 2015 #15

"no new guns are allowed into the country" Lizzie Poppet Jun 2015 #26

" with fewer individuals actually wanting guns" former9thward Jun 2015 #75

I think the 2nd Amendment argument for a handgun is weaker than for an AR-15 Recursion Jun 2015 #96

Whoa, you really need to check out this post edgineered Jun 2015 #5

Shakes head nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #6

New technology like 3-D printing will be even easier for making guns and ammo at home Cheese Sandwich Jun 2015 #45

Yup nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #46

"Where do they often get them?" Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #89

I saw a broadcast TV ad for firearms last night ProgressiveEconomist Jun 2015 #7

This is so screen shot worthy. aikoaiko Jun 2015 #8

Seriously? What you suggest has ZERO chance of passing Lurks Often Jun 2015 #17

"No one here wants to ban guns, we all just want reasonable restrictions." LAGC Jun 2015 #19

I know, right! Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #30

Banning guns *is* a reasonable restriction. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2015 #60

I'll wait sarisataka Jun 2015 #21

This is exactly why Lulu Belle Jun 2015 #24

exactly Locrian Jun 2015 #51

"Anything like this would require nothing short of a door to door search..." Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #67

Last I read there are about 90,000,000 residences in the US discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2015 #68

Post #54 is fine with waging war against US citizens. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #73

post #54 Locrian Jun 2015 #77

Thanks for the tip discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2015 #82

How many new prisons are you prepared to build for inner city youth? Township75 Jun 2015 #27

And throw open the doors... HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #28

a lot of ranges don't sell ammo Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #29

And those that do charge a fucking FORTUNE for it. For shitty ammo. n/t Adrahil Jun 2015 #52

I am sorry, but all I can say is this... Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #31

Add a license to possess guns to your steps.... Sancho Jun 2015 #32

Better than OP chemp Jun 2015 #37

Maybe if a license was required for possession... Sancho Jun 2015 #40

Have the registration done by a federally supervised state agency. -none Jun 2015 #85

Step 10: Bundle it all together and call it "The 2nd Amendment Protection Act" -nt Liberal Veteran Jun 2015 #33

Back to the drawing board chemp Jun 2015 #35

Shotguns and rifles would remain under the existing regulation XemaSab Jun 2015 #39

So those evil poor people can't get them. Kurska Jun 2015 #49

Naive to the fullest. romanic Jun 2015 #36

That's more charitable than how I would have described it. n/t Shamash Jun 2015 #43

Hear, hear. I've always despised handguns. raouldukelives Jun 2015 #41

Your step two made me laugh. We have what are essentially open borders, and 20,000 lbs of cocaine cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #44

Initial Step (Step 1) Should be "ban the manufacture of BULLETS"... Herman4747 Jun 2015 #47

There are several problems with your position... Adrahil Jun 2015 #53

let me retort... Herman4747 Jun 2015 #66

Um... beevul Jun 2015 #71

A water gun? really? Adrahil Jun 2015 #97

I have been casting bullets and reloading for over 30 years. oneshooter Jun 2015 #78

Sorry to learn that you believed that... Herman4747 Jun 2015 #99

"mandatory felony" Hooray our prison industrial complex is already salivating. EOM Kurska Jun 2015 #48

Man sounds like you've got a great plan. ileus Jun 2015 #50

We need something more drastic, immediate ecstatic Jun 2015 #54

How do you propose we do that Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #55

I own firearms which I inherited. There is no record of them. Throd Jun 2015 #56

I agree with you Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #86

Generous financial incentives for anyone willing to ecstatic Jun 2015 #58

You're forgetting paying fair market value for all those "non-hold-out" guns. beevul Jun 2015 #61

More people for the prison industrial complex!!!!!! Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #87

Once, I "thought" I had read the most unrealistic, NM_Birder Jun 2015 #57

"all guns bought back" Lizzie Poppet Jun 2015 #64

Then utilize tax credits etc. The current situation is not sustainable at all ecstatic Jun 2015 #92

"will only get worse with each passing year" Lizzie Poppet Jun 2015 #98

"the militias would view it as war. Fine." Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #70

Your police state fantasy is very frightening. tritsofme Jun 2015 #72

More frightening than the inevitable daily/weekly massacres? ecstatic Jun 2015 #91

We would all be much safer if we repealed the entire Bill of Rights tritsofme Jun 2015 #93

So the countries with strict gun control/bans are police states? ecstatic Jun 2015 #94

You made some specific proposals in #54, that's what I am responding to. tritsofme Jun 2015 #95

Step 3: Buy more guns for the forces being relied upon to accomplish steps #1 & 2, oh wait... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2015 #84

No, ban the sale Matrosov Jun 2015 #59

You can't ban the sale of something that is constitutionally protected. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #74

Tax the hell out of guns and ammunition like we do alcohol and tobacco JCMach1 Jun 2015 #62

Make them so expensive that only the rich and priviledged can own them. Throd Jun 2015 #63

Now your talkin' discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2015 #69

Step 3 and 9 violate the 5th Amendment Glassunion Jun 2015 #65

I like the insurance idea better. tridim Jun 2015 #76

The NRA will thank you Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #79

Another idea that has no basis in reality Lurks Often Jun 2015 #81

No, thanks. bigwillq Jun 2015 #83

Forget the 2nd amendment, it fails at step 2; wouldn't fly with NAFTA and GATT. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2015 #88

Just between you and me... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2015 #90