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SheilaT

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145. I keep on hearing or reading the prediction of the forthcoming death of real books,

Mon Jun 22, 2015, 05:01 PM

Jun 2015

so much so that I'm pretty much a closet anti e-reader person. And your information about people returning back to real books from the electronic ones is quite interesting.

Children's books are one of the kinds I often think about when I hear people say that some time in the future there will be no more real books. Especially things like pop-up books.

I have gotten so I try very hard to patronize my local independent bookstore, and I don't care that I could buy a book more cheaply on Amazon. I want those wonderful people to stay in business.

It is very cheering to hear that the independents are doing well these days.

I am also rather frustrated at to what extent newbie writers self publish electronically, without getting all the editing and so on they need. There's a popular perception that anyone can write as well as anyone else and if you just self publish you'll make a ton of money. I simply refuse to even look at self-published books any more, unless an already established author is behind it.

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Priced Out [View all] edhopper Jun 2015 OP

a similar thread on this topic IcyPeas Jun 2015 #1

It's crazy in this area abelenkpe Jun 2015 #53

If by "this area" you mean Cal. or the SW dixiegrrrrl Jun 2015 #141

Certainly seems likely should the drought persist. abelenkpe Jun 2015 #162

There was post here on DU dixiegrrrrl Jun 2015 #163

Maybe it's not all where, but how we live. Intentional communities, self-organized groups mahina Jun 2015 #154

Well, Get the HELL out of NYC! And the rest of the East Coast. AllTooEasy Jun 2015 #161

I don't know how my son and dtr in law manage in Manhattan... CTyankee Jun 2015 #2

I'm on the West Coast and have to get by on SS. Cleita Jun 2015 #3

I feel for you. edhopper Jun 2015 #6

See my post # 90 Cleita Jun 2015 #91

...... daleanime Jun 2015 #39

See my post #90. Cleita Jun 2015 #92

My wife and I are in the same situation DJ13 Jun 2015 #84

This is why Bernie Sanders is not just a comic candidate like the Cleita Jun 2015 #90

truth heaven05 Jun 2015 #158

OH man, I hear you so clearly. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2015 #142

I'm in the midwest heaven05 Jun 2015 #150

I find that problem too, putting grocery purchases at the end of the month on a Cleita Jun 2015 #153

Yep, I have pets heaven05 Jun 2015 #156

We're in it altogether. I hope Bernie will be able to get that raise through Cleita Jun 2015 #157

That's what happens when you have stagnant wages and everything else increases davidn3600 Jun 2015 #4

Yes edhopper Jun 2015 #7

Same here, and I have a degree now (and didn't back then) laundry_queen Jun 2015 #96

Yep. Every year I work my tail off awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #139

There has been lip service about affordable middle class housing here edhopper Jun 2015 #5

We were lucky enough to buy in 2009-2010 geek tragedy Jun 2015 #8

You mean if you DON'T need public transportation edhopper Jun 2015 #10

I meant that if you need public transportation geek tragedy Jun 2015 #12

Okay edhopper Jun 2015 #13

The way things are nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #9

We are selling our 4 br 2 ba here in SoCal and are moving to WA SoCalDem Jun 2015 #19

Yes and many of us in Washington are suffering from the same shit Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2015 #57

You must be moving to somewhere other than the Seattle area HeiressofBickworth Jun 2015 #97

Probably Longview/Kelso area SoCalDem Jun 2015 #98

How soon can you sell? dixiegrrrrl Jun 2015 #144

Where we are, they are building like crazy and our house would be a bargain SoCalDem Jun 2015 #164

husband and i are damned near priced out of where we live fizzgig Jun 2015 #11

No one should beat up on you edhopper Jun 2015 #14

posters here have proclaimed couples don't need two bedrooms fizzgig Jun 2015 #20

I tolerated that little space in college. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #29

this place was a shit hole all around fizzgig Jun 2015 #50

College dorm life 1939 Jun 2015 #130

I don't think my roughly 5000 books at the time would have fit on your 3 ft shelf. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #140

You need what you need. SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #30

my folks were better off when i was growing up in the 80s than husband and i are now fizzgig Jun 2015 #55

Yep. SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #65

NM is nice PasadenaTrudy Jun 2015 #40

NM is quite nice. SheilaT Jun 2015 #44

Interesting. SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #66

I was 60 when I moved here. SheilaT Jun 2015 #69

Oh wow. SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #73

Haven't a clue, but here's SheilaT Jun 2015 #77

Oh thank you so much. SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #79

Good luck to you. SheilaT Jun 2015 #80

New Mexico is a horrible, desolate, sphincter sucking place.............. NM_Birder Jun 2015 #106

Haha, very funny n/t PasadenaTrudy Jun 2015 #122

Please don't lump everything Southern together. Stonepounder Jun 2015 #46

I have relatives in the South edhopper Jun 2015 #62

I read you. mahina Jun 2015 #146

I feel your pain a la izquierda Jun 2015 #99

And that's the kind of place edhopper Jun 2015 #105

If one is a law professor or in the sciences... a la izquierda Jun 2015 #110

we have two or three new student housing complexes fizzgig Jun 2015 #117

And the univewrsity doesn't build dorms for all the undergraduates? 1939 Jun 2015 #126

In the mid-west safeinOhio Jun 2015 #15

I don't want to insult others who live there edhopper Jun 2015 #16

Seems we can't win. safeinOhio Jun 2015 #22

On the other hand, there are places that have a reputation SheilaT Jun 2015 #17

i would live in santa fe fizzgig Jun 2015 #21

I moved here in 2008 from Overland Park, KS. SheilaT Jun 2015 #52

i was there once in the early 2000s and fell in love fizzgig Jun 2015 #59

Sam Brownback has thoroughly trashed the Kansas state avebury Jun 2015 #26

I'm really interested in some of the small houses that are becoming popular, at least on TV. Hoyt Jun 2015 #18

If I could digitize all of my textbooks, magazines, pleasure reading... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #31

They do, at least with the new books. SheilaT Jun 2015 #70

That's good to know. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #100

So much comes out electronically, SheilaT Jun 2015 #102

I must just not be buying the kind of things they have bothered to provide an e-version for yet. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #103

If you only go to independent bookstores, SheilaT Jun 2015 #104

That's simply not true Cal Carpenter Jun 2015 #137

I keep on hearing or reading the prediction of the forthcoming death of real books, SheilaT Jun 2015 #145

It's funny Cal Carpenter Jun 2015 #151

To make a tiny house liveable Trajan Jun 2015 #160

Thanks. I really think I'd feel cramped too much less than 800 sf. Hoyt Jun 2015 #167

How many in your household? AnnieO Jun 2015 #168

Two. I've seen some of the set ups at Ikea for 200, 300, 400 sf. They are amazing. Hoyt Jun 2015 #169

I felt the same way when I lived in Boston Warpy Jun 2015 #23

It's been my observation that nursing pays SheilaT Jun 2015 #71

Too funny, I drove the same sort of third world junkers I'd driven in Mass, Warpy Jun 2015 #72

My hospital has separate parking for employees, and I've parked in SheilaT Jun 2015 #101

You are lucky to be out of this neck of the woods. Paper Roses Jun 2015 #159

So sorry to hear edhopper Jun 2015 #170

The only affordable places are places I do not want to live alarimer Jun 2015 #24

Everybody wants to live within 50 miles of the east or west coast 1939 Jun 2015 #25

The problem with that is that retired people need access to good health care pnwmom Jun 2015 #27

It's what the TPP will speed up. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #28

+1 840high Jun 2015 #37

I moved from Cambridge to Houston in 1980 for a job and an affordable place to live. DamnYankeeInHouston Jun 2015 #32

I like Houston a lot in theory. SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #67

I must have sunk to its level - it's all fine to me. I'm not touristy. DamnYankeeInHouston Jun 2015 #83

I'm not either, but SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #86

That's the trade off. DamnYankeeInHouston Jun 2015 #87

Exactly. SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #89

really? Lurker Deluxe Jun 2015 #85

I wish. SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #88

Saw this awhile back... Lobo27 Jun 2015 #33

No, you're not.NYC has become a 'luxury city' according to Joel Kotkin, PatrickforO Jun 2015 #34

We will probably need to edhopper Jun 2015 #35

My friends PasadenaTrudy Jun 2015 #48

Great discription. I have been living with family for 10 years now because I cannot afford to live jwirr Jun 2015 #36

And the sad part is edhopper Jun 2015 #38

Well it is expensive in blue areas yeoman6987 Jun 2015 #64

The unfashionable parts of Brooklyn are still affordable Depaysement Jun 2015 #41

Affordability is relative edhopper Jun 2015 #43

Very true Depaysement Jun 2015 #45

Same for us in LA! abelenkpe Jun 2015 #42

I'm in So. Pasadena PasadenaTrudy Jun 2015 #49

Love that area! abelenkpe Jun 2015 #54

My parents purchased 3 houses on a huge lot in Pasadena around the Los Robles/Orange Grove ave area ariesgem Jun 2015 #81

I bet it is! PasadenaTrudy Jun 2015 #123

I'd dying here in SF. My rent was raised $500 a month recently. AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #47

I know way too many people who are forced to work inanna Jun 2015 #61

Just five more months to go AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #63

Better to keep working while you can. Your elderly self will have 32% less to live on mia Jun 2015 #93

Thank you for the advice and link. AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #138

I was "priced out" in 1999. mwooldri Jun 2015 #51

I'm living in Sarasota, Florida. I must say, much to my surprise, I've found the town to be... BlueJazz Jun 2015 #56

I lived in Sarasota in the 70's and loved it. Florida all around is cheap to live in right Nay Jun 2015 #94

And to make matters worse -- more and more of the housing stock pnwmom Jun 2015 #58

so much of Manhattan edhopper Jun 2015 #74

San Francisco, too. And it's even starting in Seattle. n/t pnwmom Jun 2015 #76

Same, but worse; I'd move but I can't abandon the one I'm caring for; Heartbreaking. n/t freshwest Jun 2015 #60

East of Billings sorefeet Jun 2015 #68

Build your own house rickford66 Jun 2015 #75

Unfortunately it is becoming the norm. . DCBob Jun 2015 #78

I live in CT and feel the same way bigwillq Jun 2015 #82

I think it's getting harder and harder to make it... CoffeeCat Jun 2015 #95

Boy, do I recognize THAT description - I could have written that. closeupready Jun 2015 #111

Democracy is also being priced out. L0oniX Jun 2015 #107

no it's not. NM_Birder Jun 2015 #108

We need denser cities Recursion Jun 2015 #109

NY is getting very dense edhopper Jun 2015 #112

Queens is dense without being luxe. Recursion Jun 2015 #113

No we don't. There's plenty of housing in the US. The Fed is currently subsidizing debt Romulox Jun 2015 #114

Sounds like a tidy solution to the problem, then Recursion Jun 2015 #115

Hey, why not *negative* interest rates? Let's pay the haves for having! Romulox Jun 2015 #116

I lived in California most of my life. MineralMan Jun 2015 #118

Thanks edhopper Jun 2015 #119

I really understand. I didn't want to leave my home, either. MineralMan Jun 2015 #121

Right now we are hanging in there edhopper Jun 2015 #125

Yes. That changes a lot of things, for sure. MineralMan Jun 2015 #128

There are nice places edhopper Jun 2015 #131

Yes, I know what you're saying. MineralMan Jun 2015 #135

Thank you MineralMan. mahina Jun 2015 #149

Hayden Heights MineralMan Jun 2015 #165

mahalo! mahina Jun 2015 #171

I'm hoping my landlord forgets I live here Prism Jun 2015 #120

Had a large studio with separate eat-in kitchen edhopper Jun 2015 #129

Reading through Tales of the City Prism Jun 2015 #132

When I lived there edhopper Jun 2015 #133

It's a beautiful city Prism Jun 2015 #136

You're not alone, I think this is happening quite often. MadDAsHell Jun 2015 #124

NY is not just a big city. edhopper Jun 2015 #127

Right - it's Home now. After 30 years. closeupready Jun 2015 #134

I still have a house in rural North Florida madville Jun 2015 #143

What's your industry? jeff47 Jun 2015 #147

I cannot remember when I last had KauaiK Jun 2015 #148

Housing as commodity daredtowork Jun 2015 #152

It just occurred to me, "Priced Out" should be closeupready Jun 2015 #155

The high cost of living ain't like the cost of living high seveneyes Jun 2015 #166