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22. The only thing that will fix this is fewer people trying to be professors

Mon Jun 22, 2015, 07:08 PM

Jun 2015

More people want to be professors than universities need to hire. Unionizing won't help that, unless the organizational process excludes a lot of current adjuncts.

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I am an adjunct professor who teaches five classes. I earn less than a pet-sitter [View all] KamaAina Jun 2015 OP

I have a full time job and worked as an adjunct on the side. Evergreen Emerald Jun 2015 #1

Saddest story I ever read Blus4u Jun 2015 #72

Similar To Me ProfessorGAC Jun 2015 #107

My university is getting rid of adjuncts yeoman6987 Jun 2015 #2

I am not the author. KamaAina Jun 2015 #3

.Oh wow. First of all congratulations on Yale yeoman6987 Jun 2015 #4

What job? KamaAina Jun 2015 #5

Oh....sorry. yeoman6987 Jun 2015 #6

Oh I see. I reread your previous post yeoman6987 Jun 2015 #8

Do what you can to "cobble" together a Masters. That would help. nt ladjf Jun 2015 #13

Never have been sure what subject to specialize in KamaAina Jun 2015 #14

What is your major field. What elated Masters might get you a better job? ladjf Jun 2015 #20

Major was psychology (computer science track) KamaAina Jun 2015 #23

I thought the same thing SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #28

CS in high school?! KamaAina Jun 2015 #29

We did CS in elementary school Recursion Jun 2015 #34

That was my first computer, SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #37

Oh yes. SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #35

If you don't enjoy social interaction with students and their parents you probably ladjf Jun 2015 #70

This is why I'm not looking to become one KamaAina Jun 2015 #90

If you're good with statistics get a Business Analytics degree tammywammy Jun 2015 #118

My advice, don't choose economics or an MBA. Everyone Exilednight Jun 2015 #116

The article reports that 76% of U.S. university instructional staff is now adjunct. pnwmom Jun 2015 #59

That's good to see. Adrahil Jun 2015 #112

I am a 13 university staff person who works in a library. Adjunct and staff are abused and exploited RadiationTherapy Jun 2015 #7

may I ask Skittles Jun 2015 #15

Where I am is very red and they hate taxes, state employees, and contemporary education RadiationTherapy Jun 2015 #16

My gosh that's disgusting. nt SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #33

This is so wrong! Left coast liberal Jun 2015 #9

Read a report that said the administrative side of colleges had quadrupled. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2015 #10

So that's where the money's going. A student I know just told me that pnwmom Jun 2015 #61

And the vast majority is going to the "CEO"s of these money-making schemes. erronis Jun 2015 #122

sickening ...this is the way to watch a country self destruct . olddots Jun 2015 #11

Another symptom of American Anti-Intellectualism. nm philly_bob Jun 2015 #12

The opposite. It's a symptom of too many people wanting to be in academia Recursion Jun 2015 #24

That's why I became a bricklayer (kidding) panader0 Jun 2015 #51

Depends on the field..... paleotn Jun 2015 #68

Not so, it's administrators pushing a business model that exploits labor JCMach1 Jun 2015 #79

I was offered an adjunct position the year after I returned to the states... I did the math JCMach1 Jun 2015 #80

How do you keep pay high with thirty applicants for every job? Recursion Jun 2015 #81

it's actually worse than that for every job... but the point is... adjunct positions JCMach1 Jun 2015 #84

Yeah I meant "thirty" Recursion Jun 2015 #85

Nope. Hissyspit Jun 2015 #92

Pay is a reflection of the value society places on an activity. philly_bob Jun 2015 #120

It's a pyramid scheme Recursion Jun 2015 #121

I grew up in a time when schools were expanding... philly_bob Jun 2015 #123

Yes with budget cuts all over the nation. They go after schools, any program to help women Rex Jun 2015 #45

This is why adjuncts need to unionize. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #17

The only thing that will fix this is fewer people trying to be professors Recursion Jun 2015 #22

I make twice what the adjunct in the OP makes for half the units. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #25

And the adjuncts aren't willing to risk not teaching at all Recursion Jun 2015 #26

Adjunct unionization is at an all-time high. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #30

Besides the 'too may teachers' is garbage RWing dogma. Rex Jun 2015 #47

The universities are doing the hiring. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #53

And those of us who are facing adjunct status for life... DeadLetterOffice Jun 2015 #106

((Hugs)) Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #115

You can put your fingers in your ears and call it dogma... MadDAsHell Jun 2015 #91

well, you can put your fingers in *your* ears and pretend we don't need nashville_brook Jun 2015 #100

There's too many people for every job arikara Jun 2015 #86

You've certainly got the whole make-allegations-lacking-any-objective-or-supporting-evidence thing d LanternWaste Jun 2015 #119

and the head of UMCP a state college earns about 1/2 million a year...... burfman Jun 2015 #18

i know someone who was a professor of philosophy DesertFlower Jun 2015 #19

Too many people want to teach at the University level Recursion Jun 2015 #21

You keep saying this, but it's only true if universities are businesses with a fiduciary duty to Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #32

State legislators d_r Jun 2015 #43

Unless they're also micromanaging, they can slash the budget somewhere else. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #46

What happens is d_r Jun 2015 #49

This also happens in private colleges. former9thward Jun 2015 #65

Then the fault is with the state for cutting budgets they should be expanding on. Rex Jun 2015 #50

Yes it is d_r Jun 2015 #52

It's not true at all, the poster must have got their news from a RWing rag. Rex Jun 2015 #48

Well, as long as admin can get away with increasing class sizes and bbgrunt Jun 2015 #54

Righty HATES education and HATES teachers. randys1 Jun 2015 #27

And they bow to the Gods of Idiocracy! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2015 #31

Exactly. The Reich Wing wants a nation of Faux Spews sheep. Education is lethal to ignorance. kairos12 Jun 2015 #40

And they truly believe teachers go in late, leave early, get all summer off, have a grand life randys1 Jun 2015 #42

The rich don't know a damn thing seveneyes Jun 2015 #36

Adjunct's continue to union organize around the US Omaha Steve Jun 2015 #38

And University coaches are making millions per year. Tells you where their priorities are. YOHABLO Jun 2015 #39

My teaching load is d_r Jun 2015 #41

Adjunct/part-time instructing as a main source of income is like AA minor league baseball. aikoaiko Jun 2015 #44

That's an interesting topic right there, what may happen with CCs stopwastingmymoney Jun 2015 #58

So much work ahead of us.... daleanime Jun 2015 #55

so you could hire four people like this professor for < 1 yr private univ cost 6chars Jun 2015 #56

Bwahahahaha DeadLetterOffice Jun 2015 #71

this is a puzzle 6chars Jun 2015 #74

I don't know where the $$ is going... DeadLetterOffice Jun 2015 #76

it should be possible to both pay profs and to make school affordable 6chars Jun 2015 #78

I was offered that from a SUNY starting off tenure line alcibiades_mystery Jun 2015 #83

I suspect my particular field gets paid bupkis compared to others... DeadLetterOffice Jun 2015 #99

Dang alcibiades_mystery Jun 2015 #103

For tenure track faculty positions... DeadLetterOffice Jun 2015 #104

So where is the sky-rocketing tuition going? At many private colleges, the tuition pnwmom Jun 2015 #57

You should see the doors and other amenities yeoman6987 Jun 2015 #63

When I was at BU they announced a tuition increase and the new Lazy River Recursion Jun 2015 #64

Admins. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #69

Thanks for the link. n/t pnwmom Jun 2015 #75

Everyone makes more than adjuncts The Wizard Jun 2015 #60

it will probably be moot soon enough restorefreedom Jun 2015 #62

It will probably be hard to get paid to teach 20 years from now Recursion Jun 2015 #66

agreed. i for one am glad restorefreedom Jun 2015 #67

MOOCs have been only partially successful and have their drawbacks. Hissyspit Jun 2015 #98

And supposed education intellectual liberal minded tenured professors are all talk about changing it Township75 Jun 2015 #73

Sounds like they need to make a different career choice boomer55 Jun 2015 #77

would you say that to a Medical Doctor... most of us have trained 8-12yrs for our positions JCMach1 Jun 2015 #82

If there were no non-poverty positions for him, yes Recursion Jun 2015 #87

But, they haven't starting turning all heart doctors magically into part-timers as old ones retire JCMach1 Jun 2015 #88

No, clearly you had a character flaw or were just stupid about the wonderful invisible hand of the Hissyspit Jun 2015 #96

Great post. +1 Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #97

There's no limit on the number of people who can get humanities PhDs Recursion Jun 2015 #102

Really. You think so? DeadLetterOffice Jun 2015 #105

Yes. The AMA limits how many medical schools the county as a whole can have Recursion Jun 2015 #108

Ugh. Hissyspit Jun 2015 #95

This message was self-deleted by its author Hissyspit Jun 2015 #93

omg. thank you for posting this Liberal_in_LA Jun 2015 #89

Our society is sick sellitman Jun 2015 #94

My night school adjuncts were some of the best One_Life_To_Give Jun 2015 #101

Education in general is deliberately undervalued by Conservatives and I think George Carlin stevenleser Jun 2015 #109

You should consider getting a job as a summer intern at Apple. pogglethrope Jun 2015 #110

colleges are 'for profit' now, they can fill with the wealthy, those who can get a loan & foreigners Sunlei Jun 2015 #111

Yes. Once again we must wonder WHERE PatrickforO Jun 2015 #113

My wife is a Professor Emeritus from a private COLGATE4 Jun 2015 #114

We can't sacrifice all workers in our society to greed, *except* adjunct professors... Romulox Jun 2015 #117