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daaron

(763 posts)
26. "as bigoted as anything I've ever seen here"
Tue May 15, 2012, 09:55 AM
May 2012

Ah. They pull the old "bigot" card, here, too? Ima transplant from Randi.org and the very religious keep that knee-jerk handy there, as well, for use whenever irrational beliefs are questioned.

The fact of the matter is that the hierarchs of Churches have put their believers in this awkward position of defending the indefensible. By inserting the Church into politics at the institutional level, as with Prop. 8 in the Mormon case, or with contraception coverage in the Catholic case, the Churches themselves have provoked this genuine populist reaction against their religiously-based bigotry, bias, and privilege.

I have known many Jack Mormons (having grown up in a neighboring state), and the author of the OP's quote publicly expresses, none-too-eloquently, pretty much the same exasperated, resentful disrespect for their former religion that these others have, in private. More bluntly put, every Jack Mormon I've known left the Church feeling that they'd escaped from a cult in the nick of time, before they were truly lost.

Would you call an escapee from the Branch Davidians a bigot for publicly exposing the cult from which they had escaped? Would you call a mother of 14 who escaped from the Quiverful movement a bigot for exposing the abusive beliefs and practices of that cult? That's how Jack Mormons feel, and in fact it's bigoted to dismiss their direct life experience and claim that you're purely intellectual understanding is the proper one.

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I do believe he should be asked about this particular teaching and Skidmore May 2012 #1
Be it Mormons or a Benny Hinn , Pat Robertson, or other evangelists Ichingcarpenter May 2012 #2
Amen. Skidmore May 2012 #3
This practice of the Mormon Church is greatly disrespectful. Dawson Leery May 2012 #41
OMG. The bringing the Kingdom of God by force crowd. Like fundies wanting to nuke the ME. freshwest May 2012 #46
It would be pointless HeiressofBickworth May 2012 #5
d. Romney is a danger to our nation. Great Caesars Ghost May 2012 #6
he sure a hell is liberalnationalist May 2012 #47
Particularly because of this Icicle May 2012 #15
It sure would be great if somehow all of the evangenitals could read your post. nt left on green only May 2012 #4
Kennedy 1960 Ex-Pat Pats Fan May 2012 #7
Catholic churches are not shrouded in secrecy and cprise May 2012 #35
+1 Dawson Leery May 2012 #40
Big difference Major Nikon May 2012 #42
absolutely correct liberalnationalist May 2012 #50
I tend to be very skeptical of conspiracy theories, but I tend to agree with your assessment Major Nikon May 2012 #61
Sorry, even if I bought that about LDS, I don't believe Romney sincerely believes that (or anything) Recursion May 2012 #8
Yes, but in this case he really would be fulfilling a Morman prophecy CanonRay May 2012 #23
Sorry, I've been both Catholic AND Mormon (yeah, I know)... arbusto_baboso May 2012 #32
I don't worry about this. It seems to me that Mitt believes only in Mitt cali May 2012 #9
No, no ... he has one other belief: MONEY. Mitt believes in MONEY. Bake May 2012 #55
Just wondering out loud.... James48 May 2012 #10
James48 Diclotican May 2012 #11
Mormons for Obama struggle4progress May 2012 #30
Excellent post malaise May 2012 #12
I think it's worth exploring. Instead of Ilsa May 2012 #13
Mitt Romney was a Bishop in his church ... Kerry and Kennedy were not Ichingcarpenter May 2012 #20
Smith prophesied that if the U.S. Congress did not accede to his demands geckosfeet May 2012 #14
I can't seem to just walk away from this thread: It truly troubles me. cali May 2012 #16
Have you read much about the Mormon religion? JNelson6563 May 2012 #17
A fair amount cali May 2012 #18
Interesting. Thanks for your answer. JNelson6563 May 2012 #24
Interesting! Wind Dancer May 2012 #54
"as bigoted as anything I've ever seen here" daaron May 2012 #26
yes, it's bigoted cali May 2012 #29
Nah. Ima pass. Enjoy. nt daaron May 2012 #31
I remember going to a memebers house for some discussion Sheepshank May 2012 #53
I don't see it as bigotry Major Nikon May 2012 #43
You don't seem to understand religious cult brainwashing siligut May 2012 #56
Mitt has visions of his own, and they are radical, wild, visions of ruining the safety nets. Major Hogwash May 2012 #19
Your last sentence is the crux of why religious fundamentalists of any stripe want to eviscerate MH1 May 2012 #21
I had neighbors for years who were Mormons. cr8tvlde May 2012 #38
One of my former bosses for three years home schooled his children and never once did we his jwirr May 2012 #58
I had a good friend who is dead now madokie May 2012 #22
Not to worry TlalocW May 2012 #25
Has the church tried to influence Harry Reid, as Senate Majority Leader, yet? sadbear May 2012 #27
It depends on what you consider the "church" Major Nikon May 2012 #45
K & fookin' R AzDar May 2012 #28
Sounds quite similar to Kennedy rhetoric Bertha Venation May 2012 #33
And Kennedy famously reassured everyone that he was independent from the Vatican lolly May 2012 #39
K & R Scurrilous May 2012 #34
i don't get it....if the goal is to "take over the government and let Laura PourMeADrink May 2012 #36
What separates ohheckyeah May 2012 #37
Not much, really Major Nikon May 2012 #44
I've been in churches ohheckyeah May 2012 #57
Essentially that's what almost all organized religions do Major Nikon May 2012 #60
IMO just size treestar May 2012 #49
They need a lot more than the Presidency if they want to "take over the US government." treestar May 2012 #48
The person who first told me about this prophecy said that this would all happen after the govern- jwirr May 2012 #59
But then they want their follower Rmoney to be President of it treestar May 2012 #62
This needs to be posted on every single RW site. Sheepshank May 2012 #51
So should we also try to remove Harry Reid from the Senate? (nt) Nye Bevan May 2012 #52
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