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16. Clearly you are not familiar with Bernie. There is a reason why Hillary and ALL the Republicans are

Mon Jun 22, 2015, 11:23 PM

Jun 2015

afraid to debate him

Eg, what on EARTH makes you think he will 'belie his nature'??

Now THAT is funny actually.

Just watch him in 2003 with Greenspan. In Congress where there is supposed to be 'comity' no?

Bernie tells the TRUTH no matter WHERE he is or who he is talking to.

And THAT is what will any debate, TRUTH.

Hillary cannot debate Bernie because she cannot defend her record, on War, on Torture, yes she even vacillated on torture, and she sure cannot defend her position on the TPP. How will she do that? She says she wants to be the 'people's champion', no? Then explain why she isn't jumping at the chance right NOW to do just that?

Every labor organization is against the TPP and over 2000 Liberal Orgs, all reprensting THE PEOPLE but the would-be people's champion remains silent.

Bernie will eviscerate her on that alone, not to mention her pro-war, pro-Wall St, pro- 'reaching across the aisle' policies where, she says, she can work with Republicans.

She will NOT debate Bernie as he has requested, I am willing to bet on that.

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Hoping not to sound facile... (wish me luck!) [View all] OilemFirchen Jun 2015 OP

I think there will not be a clear winner. leftofcool Jun 2015 #1

Oh hell. I forgot about the others. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #5

By speaking the truth. People want to hear it. bluesbassman Jun 2015 #2

Historical empircal evidence about the public's shallow perceptions flies out the window? OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #3

Quite the opposite. Because he is not a demigod. bluesbassman Jun 2015 #8

All right, then. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #10

I told you how, you just don't like the answer. bluesbassman Jun 2015 #13

the carefully structured rhetoric of the average politician.... virtualobserver Jun 2015 #34

Al Gore spoke the truth and he didn't do just fine. pnwmom Jun 2015 #11

Yeah, the debates did old Al in. Supreme Court had nothing to do with it. bluesbassman Jun 2015 #15

The election might not have been a squeaker if the media hadn't attacked him pnwmom Jun 2015 #17

There's no doubt that the media's portrayal of Gore was amplified during the debates. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #27

I love Al, but his speaking style did him in. virtualobserver Jun 2015 #39

Sanders has won 14 elections. That's a lotta debates. How many elections has Clinton won again? cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #4

One. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #6

Do debates come in varying degrees? cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #7

Hell yes. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #9

Thanks for making me spit my wine out. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #19

YOU ARE LEAVING SOMEONE OUT. elleng Jun 2015 #12

I apologized upthread. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #23

But people everywhere across the country just love that Brooklyn accent. pnwmom Jun 2015 #14

Clearly you are not familiar with Bernie. There is a reason why Hillary and ALL the Republicans are sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #16

Hillary has said she is not supporting the TPP as is. n/t pnwmom Jun 2015 #18

His nature is aggressive. His nature is passionate. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #21

Lazio was an ineffective moron. I saw him once, by accident, at a local fair on LI. I have never met sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #35

Bernie problem is his message, voters think messing with the banking system CK_John Jun 2015 #20

That's not facile. Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #22

I think that particular Rubicon has already been crossed. (n/t) OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #24

Two points of interest. Exilednight Jun 2015 #25

Yes he can, the way he will win is by Autumn Jun 2015 #26

Unresponsive. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #28

Unresponsive? No, just the answer you don't like. Autumn Jun 2015 #31

You're missing the point ... NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #61

Indeed. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #65

I guess I am still somewhat astoundigast ... NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #66

I was inspired earlier with a game-changing notion: OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #67

Then why don't you start an OP on the Obama vs Romney debate? Autumn Jun 2015 #72

No, I'm not missing the point at all nance. We all know YOU don't see him that way. Autumn Jun 2015 #71

Thank you for confirming ... NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #73

Ho hum matt819 Jun 2015 #29

Interesting question. No answer! oldandhappy Jun 2015 #30

Not a facile question. But it would be facile to believe that Bernie's - or anyone's - supporters djean111 Jun 2015 #32

Hillary has her own issues spinbaby Jun 2015 #33

Anyone can win a debate at any time. bigwillq Jun 2015 #36

Can he win? If they host it in Mississippi and Clinton deploys the appropriate accent, then yes. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2015 #37

Killer strategy! OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #44

I take it you abandoned your quest to avoid being seen as facile at some point upthread. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2015 #48

Not at all. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #49

How can he win? In a word, HONESTY. eom. JEB Jun 2015 #38

"Winning" is in the eye of the beholder. Orsino Jun 2015 #40

Gosh, if we can't have the superficial ... GeorgeGist Jun 2015 #41

I'm convinced. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #42

It's telling LWolf Jun 2015 #43

Substance alone cannot win. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #45

The visual contrast will be striking. DCBob Jun 2015 #46

That's not necessary. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #47

Bernie Sanders Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #50

Yeah.. I guess the "f" word was inappropriate. DCBob Jun 2015 #70

a grumpy, pointing, aggressive guy picking on a woman? Kalidurga Jun 2015 #51

Yet another infrequent poster inspired to speak out firmly. That's so cool. merrily Jun 2015 #52

Who has been here almost a decade longer than you. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #55

I said infrequent. Didn't say new. Read as much as you want, but comprehension counts. merrily Jun 2015 #58

Sorry if I misunderstood. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #60

No worries whatsoever MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #53

Thanks, pal! OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #56

isn't O'Malley, Chafee and probably WEbb going to be up there also ? JI7 Jun 2015 #54

Addressed upthread. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #57

This video you "dedicated" to the "Bernouts" is really quite surprising. More racist implications. madfloridian Jun 2015 #59

I said nothing about Sanders being racist. I implied nothing of the sort. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #62

That is baloney. madfloridian Jun 2015 #63

What's obvious? (n/t) OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #64

Of course you don't have a reason. But you understand that this vile 'talking point' has been 'going sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #68

..... madfloridian Jun 2015 #69