I just heard a minister encourage his congregation that 2008 was important but

[jwirr]

22. You basically pointed out that groups outside the church pay their taxes leaving the impression

that church members do not. That is one of the sticky issues regarding the separation of church and state. Like all other groups members belong in two roles. That is why the rule says that the government cannot do anything to influence religion - that is create a state run religion etc. and says nothing about the citizen.

Unfortunately the rw is pushing the bondaries of the church and state ideal by preaching politics from the altar and by electing representatives who are trying to use the state to make the rest of us follow their religion. That is totally wrong but when I make quilts for distribution by the LWR and the government in disasters I am not breaking the state/church ideal. I am supporting the government in a disaster. I of course have my own reasons for doing that but I can guarantee you that it is not to take over the government so that everyone has to do like I believe. And I would be the first to object to religious laws being forced on me. Or on you.