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Exilednight

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111. And no one has answered my coalition question.

Reply to bettyellen (Reply #85)

Tue Jun 23, 2015, 12:44 PM

Jun 2015

Where is this coalition?

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Hillary Clinton: Good for White Feminism, Bad for Racial Justice [View all] Bonobo Jun 2015 OP

All the candidates records on stand for good, none of them have taken money from white supremacist uponit7771 Jun 2015 #1

As POTUS Obama pointed out recently... Bonobo Jun 2015 #2

Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton are two different people why conflate the two? uponit7771 Jun 2015 #3

I reject the idea that Hillary takes credit for the good accomplishments Bonobo Jun 2015 #4

I reject the strawman that she takes credit for the good accomplishments, when has she done that? ti uponit7771 Jun 2015 #22

She touts her role as First Lady as part of her experience. Exilednight Jun 2015 #27

That's good, doesn't mean she was Bill Clinton as the article intimates in its conflation of the uponit7771 Jun 2015 #29

Bill's economic "success" is part of the reason Exilednight Jun 2015 #37

...riiiiight, Bill gave Ol George Bush a mess... Clinton raising taxes on the rich had nothing to... uponit7771 Jun 2015 #41

Two for the price of one, ready on day one is her motto. Exilednight Jun 2015 #47

WaPo from 2007: Hillary Clinton Embraces Her Husband's Legacy RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #5

...and that still doesn't mean they're the same being. This line of thinking is crazy, the article.. uponit7771 Jun 2015 #23

Let's call this line of thinking what it is: sexism. okasha Jun 2015 #114

For one thing, they sold themselves that way. For another, they are NOT that different. For a third, merrily Jun 2015 #9

Any intimations they're the person is irrational at best. Conflating one with another as if they're uponit7771 Jun 2015 #24

The post to which I linked you does not say they are the same person. merrily Jun 2015 #25

Then who gives a damn, I agree with 90% of what Clinton did too and I'm not married to the uponit7771 Jun 2015 #26

Boy, you sure did a180. merrily Jun 2015 #28

This is false, Clinton was a damn good liberal president and Hillary and Bill are a team (hopefully) uponit7771 Jun 2015 #31

AGAIN, I never said they were the same person. Please stop repeating hyperbolic talking points that merrily Jun 2015 #36

Strawman, no one said you did. The article conflates the two beings and so do itimations uponit7771 Jun 2015 #43

Yet, you keep posting that comment to me, not to the OP. I did not write or post the article. merrily Jun 2015 #46

Merrily,that's an awesomely researched & powerful OP! Divernan Jun 2015 #30

Wow, I didn't know you were all those things. Thanks for such kind words, but it didn't take much merrily Jun 2015 #34

Yes, they are and it was well known that she was one of his most influential advisers. This she can jwirr Jun 2015 #110

She used race against Obama in 2008 again and again. merrily Jun 2015 #7

I would post the fake accent video, but I just ate chili... nt Bonobo Jun 2015 #8

I'll do it for you: marble falls Jun 2015 #18

you seem desperate! stonecutter357 Jun 2015 #6

To be fair, when you lift up women, you lift up all women. merrily Jun 2015 #10

To some extent gollygee Jun 2015 #11

I agree. It's to an extent. But, when you fight for equal pay for women and control of women's merrily Jun 2015 #14

I agree that some women's issues are about all women gollygee Jun 2015 #15

I didn't say it was an unfair criticism. My post is in the context of this thread, again, merrily Jun 2015 #16

After reading this and your thread in AA gollygee Jun 2015 #12

What coalition of women? Exilednight Jun 2015 #32

You must have reading comprehension issues gollygee Jun 2015 #40

Not at all. You said "the coalition many", did you not? Exilednight Jun 2015 #44

I said "many women and many people of color" gollygee Jun 2015 #58

Again, what coalition? Please show me these Exilednight Jun 2015 #66

You're playing games with the defintion of "coalition" gollygee Jun 2015 #69

Pretending that this imaginary coalition for Hillary Exilednight Jun 2015 #70

I don't care if it helps her as I'm not voting for her gollygee Jun 2015 #112

there's been an informal one here for years, and it seems to piss off the op bettyellen Jun 2015 #72

You can say it exists all you want, but I'm not seeing it. Exilednight Jun 2015 #75

You can downplay my life's experiences here- bettyellen Jun 2015 #85

And no one has answered my coalition question. Exilednight Jun 2015 #111

I get that none of what I said is real- or matters much to you. bettyellen Jun 2015 #113

It's called The Democratic Party. lovemydog Jun 2015 #119

That's not a coalition. The Rainbow Exilednight Jun 2015 #122

What is your final answer? lovemydog Jun 2015 #123

I keep asking and no one has the answer to this fictitious coalition. Exilednight Jun 2015 #124

Women are over 50% of the population. I would not set the standard of speaking with 1 voice. merrily Jun 2015 #45

Speaking with one voice is the definition of a coalition. Exilednight Jun 2015 #48

Bingo ... Trying to drive a wedge between women and PoC. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #35

Sowing division and distrust is a game he tried in the AA group. bettyellen Jun 2015 #64

I make a practice of following the very few ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #98

Indeed. n/t JTFrog Jun 2015 #77

And yet, according to her supporters... shaayecanaan Jun 2015 #13

that's not only her supporters. It's polls. merrily Jun 2015 #17

And which of the other candidates would be better for black feminism? JaneyVee Jun 2015 #19

I know which one would be better for racial justice. Bonobo Jun 2015 #20

Which Democratic candidate would be bad for African American feminism? merrily Jun 2015 #39

Take it to Red State dot com,,,,,geez Cryptoad Jun 2015 #21

Intersting article and interesting website ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #33

OP has a long history of "concern" for feminists. sufrommich Jun 2015 #38

The sincerity of his concern drips like melted ice cream... LanternWaste Jun 2015 #53

Hahahahahaha Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #68

Speaking of hahaha...."Socialist"...for Hillary? Romulox Jun 2015 #73

Letting the USSC fall to conservatives will Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #74

We haven't had primaries, yet, remember? You're supporting Hillary over Bernie while you still have Romulox Jun 2015 #76

And? Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #78

We all have a right to "evolve". But you support the corporate candidate over the more progressive Romulox Jun 2015 #79

Your opinion. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #80

Reality. You support the $2.5 *BILLION* candidate. Over the socialist. nt Romulox Jun 2015 #81

Yeah, I'd like my candidate to win. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #83

There are no atheists in a foxhole, I guess. nt Romulox Jun 2015 #84

Great, glad we got that cleared up for you. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #88

You're a regular revolutionary for the status quo. Romulox Jun 2015 #90

When the USSC strips collective bargaining Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #92

Supporting Wall Street's candidate (while we still have a choice!) doesn't help that. Romulox Jun 2015 #93

Yeah, seriously. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #94

Have the last word, if you like. Just disappointed to see another not walk the talk. nt Romulox Jun 2015 #95

I know who walks the talk around here. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #97

As a Trekkie, I'm still laughing at this. Beacool Jun 2015 #115

Her actions over many years were kind of consistent with each other. To me, they are far merrily Jun 2015 #42

Funny ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #51

And I responded to your post. Funny, rather than address what I said about Hillary, you attack the merrily Jun 2015 #52

But it's ok for you to refer to Hillary's supporters as a single entity? JTFrog Jun 2015 #82

Actually, I don't do that anywhere near in every post. That's false. merrily Jun 2015 #87

Oh there you go again, doing to others as you hate done to yourself. JTFrog Jun 2015 #89

Try again. My Reply 42 had relevance to the thread topic. merrily Jun 2015 #91

Good thing about discussion boards.... JTFrog Jun 2015 #96

There was an on topic comment in that post. Not so any post since. merrily Jun 2015 #103

You are hilarious. n/t JTFrog Jun 2015 #104

Come to think of it JTFrog, I cannot think of a single post of yours to me that was about any topic merrily Jun 2015 #99

I will post however the fuck I want. JTFrog Jun 2015 #102

Sorry, I ten to omit the sarcasm emote when I think any reasonable reader could figure it out. merrily Jun 2015 #105

Oh, I've figured it out just fine. n/t JTFrog Jun 2015 #106

No doubt the irrational mind allows a handful of examples to act as the standard. LanternWaste Jun 2015 #55

Neither irrational nor biased. There is no reason on earth that I would have started out merrily Jun 2015 #57

Easy there... Adrahil Jun 2015 #60

The broad brush of Bernie's supporters was OK with you, though? merrily Jun 2015 #61

Nope, I criticize that too, though there are plenty of others... Adrahil Jun 2015 #62

So, your response to my pointing out YOUR highly selective double standard is condescendingly merrily Jun 2015 #63

And we all know that people who care about economic justice are racists (nt) shaayecanaan Jun 2015 #117

More bullsh!t from the peanut gallery. No one has said that. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #118

Here. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #49

... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #50

+1...nt SidDithers Jun 2015 #54

... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #56

... SidDithers Jun 2015 #59

A very interesting article. Autumn Jun 2015 #65

. Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2015 #67

Actually, Hillary style triangulation/corporatism is horrible for women and children. nt Romulox Jun 2015 #71

Yes. Puts increasing numbers in poverty... HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #101

These posts are getting more and more ridiculous...nt joeybee12 Jun 2015 #86

Haiti. n/t L0oniX Jun 2015 #100

Benghazi !!! n/t obnoxiousdrunk Jun 2015 #107

Yes, Hillary is a strong advocate on women's issues, all over the world and I am very happy someone Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #108

Well I'm glad to see you finally care about feminism ismnotwasm Jun 2015 #109

Well, this is what he thinks of Obama. Beacool Jun 2015 #116

Yes, and? nt Bonobo Jun 2015 #120

Read "Women, Race and Class" by Angela Davis McCamy Taylor Jun 2015 #121