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87. The implication to which I objected is that Bernie does not speak about these groups He has, he is

Tue Jun 23, 2015, 03:17 PM

Jun 2015

he will and there is no reason to assume otherwise, except for the stuff that gets posted here--well, the negative stuff. He's been stronger for these groups all his life than any of the other candidates.

Meanwhile, I have expressed to this poster that I question how undecided he is. I've seen quite a few DUers claim to be Bernie supporters, yet their posting behavior for about a year has been saying something different to me. Not a year for the OP, though. One of the most acerbic of them finally dropped a pro-Bernie sig line from his or her posts. About fucking time, too. Again, not the OP.

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Here are my concerns about a Bernie candidacy ... [View all] 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 OP

I'll let the O'Malley team know JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #1

Actually ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #3

I wouldn't worry about that. I'd worry about Hillary not winning the GE... L0oniX Jun 2015 #2

Care to address my 3 message concerns? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #4

You actually expect any "convincing"? LMFAO L0oniX Jun 2015 #139

So you are not going to take the opportunity to demonstrate your support for Bernie ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #146

Your first point, regarding candidates like Bernie not having enough funding to reach a national sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #184

Thank you for your response ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #185

Isn't HRC winning with liberals and progressives? JaneyVee Jun 2015 #5

Shhh ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #6

LMFAO ...yea so you noticed they all showed up to vote last fall too huh. L0oniX Jun 2015 #138

If progressives, liberals... Yada yada... Adrahil Jun 2015 #7

Perfect Parody. Love it. nt. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #9

Silly. Presidential year voting nothing like off-year voting HERVEPA Jun 2015 #33

It's good to have hopes. Tried that once before back in 2008. L0oniX Jun 2015 #137

I'll try a little. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #8

Fair enough ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #10

K & R,good post Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #133

I must say I'm disappointed ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #11

You haven't posted your one on Hillary yet. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #14

I suspect as much ... Selling vs Trashing! n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #15

I think this is why people are not responding to your OP. n/t demmiblue Jun 2015 #21

??? 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #23

I'm finding better responses from a Bern'd piece of glutin packed toast. L0oniX Jun 2015 #140

For some reason, I keep thinking of Soren Kierkegaard's BainsBane Jun 2015 #26

Kierkegaard ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #48

Or it could be that LWolf Jun 2015 #122

Could be; but, the number of posts on other threads suggests otherwise. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #123

Response in 135, below. LWolf Jun 2015 #136

I can't speak to that, not having been "here," but LWolf Jun 2015 #135

Thank you for your reasoned and reasonable response ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #142

Help me understand, then. LWolf Jun 2015 #162

What is the real concern? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #163

I don't agree LWolf Jun 2015 #172

So what is it that I am unable or unwilling to accept? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #175

I accept that. LWolf Jun 2015 #177

I have very similar concerns about the general election viability of Sanders Gothmog Jun 2015 #12

And sadly ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #17

I am very impressed with your neutrality. SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #34

I didn't say I was neutral, I said I was undecided ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #49

As have I, and the response were just as nonproductive and contentious as this one. nt procon Jun 2015 #44

See reply #135 GoneOffShore Jun 2015 #144

"It would be nice if sufficient funds could be raised $40 at a time, to fund a national campaign" KamaAina Jun 2015 #13

Not true ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #19

Thanks for your concern. nt Romulox Jun 2015 #16

Thank you for the kick. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #20

Okay. I'm not afraid of your ideas being debated. nt Romulox Jun 2015 #24

It shows. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #47

For the imbalance of funds issue: I think Bernie's many public appearances SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #18

I don't think so; but, okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #22

Well, that was productive wasn't it. SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #25

This is his schtick. You pour your heart out, he responds: "Okay. nt" nt Romulox Jun 2015 #27

Thanks for the kick. n/t frylock Jun 2015 #141

Probably because your post involves more than a little wishful thinking without adequate backup stevenleser Jun 2015 #37

As does yours SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #40

Where is my backup? Polls, prior performance (a virtual tie against Obama who creamed two GOP stevenleser Jun 2015 #41

With all due respect ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #62

Oh, you poor fragile thing ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #54

Oh Okay. This fragile thing will wait for you to grant me an opinion other than yours. SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #57

Thanks for the kick. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #58

I dont think so either, I travel a bit and many I talk to have still never heard of Bernie randys1 Jun 2015 #35

The TV viewership in Columbus, OH is about 1,000,000 brooklynite Jun 2015 #45

It's not only 5000 a speech, that is the number for people attending. SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #46

Social media is useful for an active and engaged electorate... brooklynite Jun 2015 #67

It'ls like that old shampoo commercial. Tell someone and they tell someone and so on and so on. SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #70

I would love for social media to have as much clout as all the billionaires supporting politicians. SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #113

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2015 #115

The only way he's going to do it, as far as I can see, Ron Green Jun 2015 #28

I have concerns that he won't be able to win a general. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #29

Yep, see my #37 above. nt stevenleser Jun 2015 #38

Well put! hrmjustin Jun 2015 #39

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2015 #116

Well we disagree on this issue. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #119

The only concern is that he's a socialist Matrosov Jun 2015 #30

Start with this fact of American electoral politics: each major party's candidate starts the KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #31

And so it will come down to turnout. immoderate Jun 2015 #50

I think Sanders' brand of prairie populism can inspire people to vote. I find his message KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #59

I agree. Bernie's strength is that he is believable. immoderate Jun 2015 #71

This here ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #110

Here's what I'd say Proud Public Servant Jun 2015 #32

Okay. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2015 #36

#3 Raising the Pay for women JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #52

Both of those measures sound good. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2015 #65

That's my point - JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #72

Not in your pay range - but other than that, you told the story of my life. freshwest Jun 2015 #95

You posted something to me a few weeks ago JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #121

You said a mouthful, JAG! greatauntoftriplets Jun 2015 #102

Pure truth, right there, and wise as well. n/t freshwest Jun 2015 #108

You do understand that women also are subject to the minimum wage and drowning with kids to support? TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #150

Oh - I understand that clearly JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #161

Nobody is solely focused on the minimum wage, wages in general are a huge problem TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #186

Item #1. $40 million leaves him $2.46 billion short of what Clinton will raise. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2015 #56

Well, fuck. Why have elections? Let's just sell offices to the highest bidder. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2015 #66

$2.5 billion is to $40 million... lumberjack_jeff Jun 2015 #73

Just an observation that I raised the same question yesterday... brooklynite Jun 2015 #42

Teddy Roosevelt One_Life_To_Give Jun 2015 #43

You've already made your decision. It's obvious. Dawgs Jun 2015 #51

Thank you for the kick ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #76

If you pick a candidate because they can raise $2.5b to get elected - you're part of the problem. nt lumberjack_jeff Jun 2015 #53

Very well said MissDeeds Jun 2015 #60

word up frylock Jun 2015 #68

Well Let's See.. whatthehey Jun 2015 #55

What is the estimate for the 2016 election? postatomic Jun 2015 #61

Depends on the party HassleCat Jun 2015 #63

I strongly suspect that Democrats ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #77

I think that your questions come far too early, sadoldgirl Jun 2015 #64

here is my case virtualobserver Jun 2015 #69

good response BainsBane Jun 2015 #75

Thank you for your considered response. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #83

I don't think most POC, LGBTs, and women can be manipulated Vattel Jun 2015 #74

Your concerns make no sense... MellowDem Jun 2015 #78

Wow. You're response couldn't be any better. Dawgs Jun 2015 #80

It's definitely the kind of response BainsBane Jun 2015 #81

Well, that was convincing ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #85

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #88

Please go away ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #91

I'm trying to convince you... MellowDem Jun 2015 #97

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #100

I have actually laughed out loud reading this subthread Number23 Jun 2015 #134

Thanks for the kick. n/t frylock Jun 2015 #147

Point one is relevant to the primary, not the general. merrily Jun 2015 #79

I guess the implication with #3 is the groups he named won't vote, or will vote Republican if Bernie smokey nj Jun 2015 #84

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #86

The implication to which I objected is that Bernie does not speak about these groups He has, he is merrily Jun 2015 #87

There is a difference between talking ABOUT and ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #89

As my earlier post said, he has done so when and as appropriate. merrily Jun 2015 #90

Okay. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #92

Forgot to mention, though I think I have mentioned this before: merrily Jun 2015 #94

Okay; but there's that "ABOUT" word, again. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #96

I've seen you post a lot against Bernie, even against Bernie's supporters. I haven't seen anything merrily Jun 2015 #98

I like his passion. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #99

Yeah. don't be undecided any longer. Passion alone is no reason to vote for a President. merrily Jun 2015 #101

I know this ... that is why I posed the questions I have. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #106

Seriously, if that's all you've found to like about him all this time, just cross him off your list. merrily Jun 2015 #111

like a screen door.. frylock Jun 2015 #149

This message was self-deleted by its author merrily Jun 2015 #93

You are really reaching deep behind you for that ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #105

Sometimes, one errs. I self deleted. However, I have told you before that, to my mind, you don't merrily Jun 2015 #109

Being undecided on a matter ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #112

Again, if all you have to date found to like about Bernie is his passon, merrily Jun 2015 #114

Thank you; but, it is MY time to "waste" ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #118

I gave you a considered answer. I think it was Reply 79. Not sure. merrily Jun 2015 #120

I didn't see Post #79 ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #126

Come on now. I hardly expect anyone to swoon over my posts especially you. merrily Jun 2015 #131

Okay. n/t. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #132

Okay. Thanks. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #128

he isn't running to win JI7 Jun 2015 #82

Moderates Sean23 Jun 2015 #103

He would probably make a number of key SCOTUS appointments... cascadiance Jun 2015 #104

How would he get those presumably very liberal appointments through Congress? pnwmom Jun 2015 #124

Well if they want to get elected by a very fed up public they might think twice about blocking them. cascadiance Jun 2015 #129

I have answers, but will wait to read about the other 2 prospects. Rex Jun 2015 #107

If he can't "mount a national campaign" he won't win the nomination, and the issue will be moot. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2015 #117

I'm anxious to hear how he would ... That's all. ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #127

I am anxious to see your post on Hillary and will respond the best I can. leftofcool Jun 2015 #125

It's up ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #145

It doesn't matter whether or not you see a clear path to a Sanders win. Read on... DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2015 #130

I completely misread me; but, thanks anyway. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #143

That's a winning strategy BainsBane Jun 2015 #152

But that's okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #154

Too much drama for me. Sorry about the whole disenfranchised voter thing I caused. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2015 #155

You don't cause disenfranchisment BainsBane Jun 2015 #156

Nobody is buying into the undecided voter act. frylock Jun 2015 #159

Well, that is on you! But thanks for the kick, anyhow. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #174

Okay n/t frylock Jun 2015 #176

Thanks for the kick ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #178

Thanks for the kick. n/t frylock Jun 2015 #179

See? I can do this with my eyes closed ... watch! Kick. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #181

Okay n/t frylock Jun 2015 #182

Shh, don't give them free advice. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #158

I think his biggest problems are #1, and also being too far left for a GE. DanTex Jun 2015 #148

Noted: A Constant Hillary Supporter is "concerned" about Bernie's chances. Concern noted. peacebird Jun 2015 #151

Post a single link to a thread in which I have been supportive of/advocated for a HRC's candidacy .. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #164

I agree, I haven't seen you support anyone. Just working on the factors. n/t freshwest Jul 2015 #187

Regarding #1, I think Bernie is getting enough exposure now goldent Jun 2015 #153

Thank you for your response ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #165

I have similar questions and concerns. lovemydog Jun 2015 #157

Yeah ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #166

I'll try and answer them as best I can. lovemydog Jun 2015 #160

Thank you for your response ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #167

not an active supporter, but weighing in bigtree Jun 2015 #168

I don't think ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #173

Your concerns are noted. n/t tazkcmo Jun 2015 #169

Why do Bernire supporters treat the undecided with such disdain? great white snark Jun 2015 #180

NEWSFLASH: One of DU's most conservative posters has "concerns" about Bernie, leaning Hillary! nt Romulox Jun 2015 #170

Do you have something constructive to add, or are you happy showing your ass? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #171

I just like to skip to the ending of formulaic dramas. nt Romulox Jun 2015 #183

As far as the concerns you say you have, he has addressed them all through actions and words mmonk Jul 2015 #188