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SunSeeker

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57. I said the 14th Am does, not the Texas decision.

Tue Jun 23, 2015, 04:26 PM

Jun 2015

I said the Texas decision stood for the proposition that license plates are government speech. Government speech is not protected by the 1st Am. Government speech is further constrained by the 14th Am equal protection clause.

I don't deify law professors. They’re just lawyers working in academia. I don't think a state could refuse a pro-choice plate if it allowed a "pro-life" plate. I think that would violate the equal protection clause and the 1st Am. Because once the state decides it is going to allow license plates to in essence be used as a public forum on certain issues, it needs to respect all non-offensive speech equally, within the limits afforded government speech. I think displaying the Confederate Battle Flag is offensive hate speech that a state not only has a right to ban, whether or not it allows abortion plates, but arguably is required to ban since it in essense gives government sanction to the terrorizing of African Americans. IMO a state allowing Confederate plates violates the 14th Am. So sue me.

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BREAKING - Gov. McAuliffe orders Confederate flags off Viriginia license plates [View all] underpants Jun 2015 OP

I have not been able to understand why displaying of the Confederate Flag SheilaT Jun 2015 #1

I hate the display of that flag but I think displaying the flag say, on a bumper sticker is diffent CTyankee Jun 2015 #9

I just want to say I see it similarly. It's one thing for a private citizen to make, produce, Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #18

Exactly. And government speech is not protected by the 1st Am. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #43

Where do you find anything about state governments being required to treat all citizens equally onenote Jun 2015 #45

I noticed that too. Jamastiene Jun 2015 #54

I said the 14th Am does, not the Texas decision. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #57

You clearly don't know much about Equal Protection Clause jurisprudence. onenote Jun 2015 #58

That's your opinion. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #59

Care to explain how the court would apply existing Equal Protection jurisprudence onenote Jun 2015 #60

I just did. But I did not say the Equal Protection Clause requires "a particular message." SunSeeker Jun 2015 #61

Agree. cui bono Jun 2015 #64

The answer to your question: No, you don't understand the First Amendment onenote Jun 2015 #20

but the state cannot espouse a political view officially. The state must be neutral. CTyankee Jun 2015 #34

THIS! Raine1967 Jun 2015 #40

Or how they win a free-speech case regarding government-issued license plates. arcane1 Jun 2015 #52

K & R Iliyah Jun 2015 #2

Thank you, Gov McAuliffe! PunkinPi Jun 2015 #3

Thanks from me, too MBS Jun 2015 #4

You're welcome! PunkinPi Jun 2015 #13

Maybe they can apply public nuisance laws and the like. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #44

GTMA, SunSeeker... PunkinPi Jun 2015 #50

Thanks. Mine was from the Richmond Times-Dispatch underpants Jun 2015 #6

You're welcome, PunkinPi Jun 2015 #12

From that article: FSogol Jun 2015 #7

I am surprised it is that low underpants Jun 2015 #8

I'm not surprised. There a less of them every year, a portion of them hide their FSogol Jun 2015 #10

The Mus. of the Con website now says The American Civil War Museum with a 'union' subtitle among appalachiablue Jun 2015 #46

Appomattox - where America reunited underpants Jun 2015 #53

I hope so! appalachiablue Jun 2015 #55

Where Our Nation Reunited underpants Jun 2015 #56

Good riddance indeed. PunkinPi Jun 2015 #14

That is true underpants Jun 2015 #47

Is their a prepper plate yet? And the Gadsden Tea Party movement is another new spawn unfortunately. appalachiablue Jun 2015 #48

K & R. Good job Governor McAuliffe. n/t FSogol Jun 2015 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author Cheese Sandwich Jun 2015 #11

I would not be surprised if terrorist/racist Roof was aware of the SCOTUS decision on banning the Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #15

"Dixie Swastika"? Brilliant! Proud Public Servant Jun 2015 #23

Killer Roof's attack was commited on the very date, June 17 that freed slave leader Denmark Vesey appalachiablue Jun 2015 #51

The Supremes ruling on Texas gave him cover malaise Jun 2015 #16

That's like saying there are 8 justices that have no problem with Fred Phelps and his motley crew of onenote Jun 2015 #21

What then are the specific, objective and relevant legal fallacies you perceive in the ruling? LanternWaste Jun 2015 #41

I'll let Prof. Geoffrey Stone of the U of Chicago Law School answer that question onenote Jun 2015 #42

What's really ironic about this sarge43 Jun 2015 #17

Great point underpants Jun 2015 #19

Karma and schadenfreude in one satisfying explosion n/t sarge43 Jun 2015 #24

These rw/racist nuts do everything to cause their demise but they keep popping up erronis Jun 2015 #35

Hopefully a wrecking ball to Monument Ave will be next. chalmers Jun 2015 #22

Do you want all of the statues on Monument Ave destroyed? N/T gladium et scutum Jun 2015 #29

Just the 5 confederate leaders chalmers Jun 2015 #32

Good, make sure the statue of Arthur Ashe is safely removed before the wrecking ball comes thru, tx. appalachiablue Jun 2015 #49

All well and good. But Gman Jun 2015 #25

The real issue to those being killed is racism, but the issue of guns sure is important. randys1 Jun 2015 #27

Racists with guns kill Gman Jun 2015 #28

I tend not to tell a group I am not part of what their problems are or are not. randys1 Jun 2015 #30

^^This BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #62

K&r... spanone Jun 2015 #26

Excellent. Get ride of the overt symbols of racism, then get to work on the subtle ones. Hoyt Jun 2015 #31

Watch - tomorrow Fox News will parrot that there's a war being declared on the confederate flag. Initech Jun 2015 #33

no, they can't spin it that way, it would have to be hollysmom Jun 2015 #38

I can see it now durablend Jun 2015 #39

Kick and R BeanMusical Jun 2015 #36

"but the law specifically banned the stars and bars image." AlbertCat Jun 2015 #37

What the hell is going�. zentrum Jun 2015 #63