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301. One of my two brushes with future fame.

Tue Jun 23, 2015, 04:23 PM

Jun 2015

The other was playing bass guitar in a band with Dez Dickerson for a couple months back in the 1970s. Dez went on to be the lead guitarist in Prince's Revolution band, which I found strange because Dez was a hard-rockin' disciple of Deep Purple's Ritchie Blackmore and not much into funk or soul when I knew him. It is also a very widely circulated rumor in older Twin Cities music circles that Dez actually wrote most of Prince's early hits, and that he was very well paid to allow the tunes to come out with Prince's name as the writer. No idea whether it's "true" but the number of insiders who tell the story give it a pretty hefty dose of believability.

Last I heard of Dez he was retired from the music biz and owned an assload of apartment buildings and other real estate developments. He was a really cool dude back in the day.

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Still don't think he's a used-car salesman? [View all] WilliamPitt Jun 2015 OP

Nope. Nor do I think he is going to sell us into slavery or the TPP will be as bad as some assert. Hoyt Jun 2015 #1

Of course you dont! Nt Logical Jun 2015 #2

And any relevance of your reply is still underwhelming. LanternWaste Jun 2015 #18

Hey, my buddy! Nt Logical Jun 2015 #78

Lol! BeanMusical Jun 2015 #87

! pintobean Jun 2015 #166

good catch! :-) Logical Jun 2015 #192

I agree. BeanMusical Jun 2015 #257

"Christening the sloop!" Great analogy. maddiemom Jun 2015 #471

BULLSHIT! House DEMS(Pelosi leading them) voted down TAA and... AllTooEasy Jun 2015 #303

Because it stole from zentrum Jun 2015 #363

"This machine kills jobs..." Romulox Jun 2015 #5

+1 appalachiablue Jun 2015 #431

Oh, please. You are on record as hoping the TPP will be bad for Americans. djean111 Jun 2015 #9

Would love to see where I hope it's "bad for Americans." I am disgusted with xenophobia used to Hoyt Jun 2015 #19

Xenophobia? All I see, and all I have criticized, is the way that global corporate profits djean111 Jun 2015 #30

Yes, other countries will "get raised up," and not at America's expense. Hoyt Jun 2015 #35

You believe that. I do not. We both will have to wait and see. When the TPP is released in all djean111 Jun 2015 #49

Gotta wonder if it will be released. Stryder Jun 2015 #318

right after that pile of corporate crap gets signed into law, of course Fast Walker 52 Jun 2015 #465

Sure, and there's a pot of gold at the end of each rainbow. BeanMusical Jun 2015 #107

each CORPORATE rainbow. nt Plucketeer Jun 2015 #113

No other "free" trade agreement that Obama has gotten through congress has done that fasttense Jun 2015 #122

What, you think the Korean trade agreement has hurt the USA. I get the uniformed think Hoyt Jun 2015 #134

A billion dollar increase in the GDP druidity33 Jun 2015 #272

Small businesses who are involved in export/import business are supporting TPP. Hoyt Jun 2015 #375

Yes, we pumped crap into the air and water for a long time dflprincess Jun 2015 #432

I think of it that we took more than our share of the world's wealth and resources, and now want to Hoyt Jun 2015 #436

Besides, holding them to the same standards would cut into the profits of the corporations who are dflprincess Jun 2015 #441

It will keep corporations from taking a chance there, and that's what some Americans want. Hoyt Jun 2015 #446

So we should adopt the President's hokey math? Mnpaul Jun 2015 #343

Trade deficits aren't always as bad. Hoyt Jun 2015 #477

I can tell you directly as a result of the KFTA more American products are showing up in Korea davidpdx Jun 2015 #473

Thanks for the update. Hoyt Jun 2015 #476

If we just wait long enough. If we just suffer lost jobs and decreased living standard long enough Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #130

Exactly fasttense Jun 2015 #188

Bingo. kath Jun 2015 #193

Quit bringing up actual, provable, extrinsic facts. hifiguy Jun 2015 #208

Just point us to the part in the TPP that says that! sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #227

It's a zero sum game tularetom Jun 2015 #262

I just hope you're young enough to live with the consequences. Fuddnik Jun 2015 #281

Isnt "rising tide lifts all boats" Reagan favorite economy theory? snagglepuss Jun 2015 #415

There's no reason for it not to work with proper taxes,minimum wage, Hoyt Jun 2015 #417

How will they get raised up? Countries where right now, people can actually truedelphi Jun 2015 #455

Really? Doesn't seem to have worked that way thus far. Live and Learn Jun 2015 #459

Hello Hoyt...... clarice Jun 2015 #44

I consider an attitude of America First, the heck with foreign poor, part of the definition. Hoyt Jun 2015 #91

I like to play with words, too, Hoyt. However: chervilant Jun 2015 #190

gawd, not that tired piece of SHIT repuke meme Skittles Jun 2015 #337

+1000 BeanMusical Jun 2015 #344

+ another Scuba Jun 2015 #398

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #405

I swear Skittles Jun 2015 #430

Exactly! ctsnowman Jun 2015 #467

It is the fear of people from other countries, which has nothing to do with the TPP. Rex Jun 2015 #278

We have seen the leaks and WE KNOW it will be bad for Americans. Now please tell us what you sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #69

I've seen as much as you, I've seen the goals for the agreement, and I see no reason to Hoyt Jun 2015 #100

What do you mean 'it won't be presented to Congress' if it isn't the best Obama can do? sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #112

+1 BeanMusical Jun 2015 #118

Some people just REFUSE to see the forest for the trees... truebrit71 Jun 2015 #121

It's willful ignorance. BeanMusical Jun 2015 #204

You really need to think about what you just posted. TPP goes to Congress, the will vote No or Hoyt Jun 2015 #129

What does 'fast tracking' mean to you? Why did Democrats REFUSE to give it to BUSH who tried sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #135

Wow....talk about just not getting it.... truebrit71 Jun 2015 #136

It includes criteria the TPP must meet, or they can withdraw FT authority, if it is similar to the Hoyt Jun 2015 #157

Thanks, I give up trying to explain this to people who are determined to protect their sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #233

What are you talking about? ... aggiesal Jun 2015 #143

You guys really need to keep up with the TPA passed. Honest to goodness, you should be embarrassed. Hoyt Jun 2015 #169

Oh boy. BeanMusical Jun 2015 #214

Read the darn thing if you don't believe it. Hoyt Jun 2015 #223

Fox Mulder, is that you? BeanMusical Jun 2015 #232

Read the darn bill. Hoyt Jun 2015 #313

It's classified and those leaks are all fake, dontcha know? BeanMusical Jun 2015 #320

And they're voting on what today? aggiesal Jun 2015 #274

If it is bad it will fail. More likely, Obama won't submit it. Actually, the House did not Hoyt Jun 2015 #314

If it is bad it will fail. ... aggiesal Jun 2015 #361

This message was self-deleted by its author azmom Jun 2015 #433

They can revoke fast track if reporting requirements aren't met Mnpaul Jun 2015 #353

And they don't even consider for an instant that we will again have a right wing president. Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #147

I'm sure Scott would have our best interests in mind. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #158

I have faith that Obama does!1! BeanMusical Jun 2015 #325

They don't even consider that this puts Orrin Hatch and Paul Ryan in charge Mnpaul Jun 2015 #367

Well, Ed, we better stop trying to undermine the candidate that can keep that from happening. Hoyt Jun 2015 #371

yes Angry Dragon Jun 2015 #206

You write "... leadership of all the other countries party to the TPP and aggiesal Jun 2015 #132

Sorry I meant TTIP. If you knew what it meant, you'd have recognized my error and YOURS. Hoyt Jun 2015 #137

Why do you keep saying 'selling us into slavery'? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #228

Nobody mentioned slavery. This poster have a wild imagination BeanMusical Jun 2015 #243

Because by throwing out "slavery" and "xenophobia" he can paint LondonReign2 Jun 2015 #277

No, most folks posting in this thread and the hundreds of others have posted about corporations Hoyt Jun 2015 #378

I don't think you'd win that bet, unless you really stretch the definition of 'darn close'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #461

http://tradetreachery.com/ turbinetree Jun 2015 #475

OK, let's just talk a moment about 'free trade.' As a labor economist, I can tell you that PatrickforO Jun 2015 #183

Well, as an economist, you are aware that some jobs - like "buggy whip makers" - Hoyt Jun 2015 #211

buggly whip makers? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #237

Ah yes, his "buggy whip" lie, oft repeated LondonReign2 Jun 2015 #279

Sorry, I don't buy that. PatrickforO Jun 2015 #414

Thank you! kath Jun 2015 #426

"insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."Albert Einstein sulphurdunn Jun 2015 #306

Did you get your bonus yet? Spirochete Jun 2015 #324

Woody Guthrie would never back any corporate trade deal. n/t. Ken Burch Jun 2015 #392

It's not a corporate trade deal, and it is good for foreign countries too. Hoyt Jun 2015 #404

It's good for the rich in other countries. Ken Burch Jun 2015 #424

NAFTA put my father out of business. azmom Jun 2015 #434

Sorry about your dad. There are Mexicans getting jobs at foreign auto plants at $8 an hour vs. Hoyt Jun 2015 #440

You should be ashamed of your ignorance. azmom Jun 2015 #469

2500 trade agreements since 1959 have had those same tribunals in them. But, now it's suddenly an Hoyt Jun 2015 #438

Most of us didn't know about them until recently. Ken Burch Jun 2015 #447

Well the tribunal is run under UN and WTO rules. And, Hoyt Jun 2015 #450

I hope you got a taste for crow... gregcrawford Jun 2015 #413

did a flashing light go off on your monitor Joe Turner Jun 2015 #453

What we have to come to grips with is this: corporate control is what rightwingers support. Romulox Jun 2015 #3

Reconstruct the tent, then! Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #131

Shame on us for allowing the corporatists into the "big tent". FiveGoodMen Jun 2015 #315

I am not sure that "we" had anything to do with it. truedelphi Jun 2015 #457

POSUCS has attained acronymic status. KamaAina Jun 2015 #4

I like to pitch in. WilliamPitt Jun 2015 #12

i bet you can't find the courage are fortitude stonecutter357 Jun 2015 #460

Ah yes: "The POSUCS saved my eye. Again." That was an excellent use of the term. Hekate Jun 2015 #146

What, pray tell, is a POSUCS? I've been away from DU for a couple weeks. Erose999 Jun 2015 #269

From an old OP by Will Pitt dreamnightwind Jun 2015 #308

No, in this thread, he's calling him simply a "used-car salesman". KamaAina Jun 2015 #317

My bad, a UCS then, not a POSUCS dreamnightwind Jun 2015 #327

Not going to yell. MineralMan Jun 2015 #6

+1 Hoyt Jun 2015 #8

Are you absurd? You think your Reps really listen to you? chalmers Jun 2015 #15

Well, my congressional representative MineralMan Jun 2015 #38

You equate a positive response to them glad handing you? chalmers Jun 2015 #46

You do not know me, clearly. MineralMan Jun 2015 #48

That is one thing that MM can be sure of. Both Amy Klobuchar and Al Franken voted no on every jwirr Jun 2015 #115

Betty McCollum is my rep. She has voted Nay as well MineralMan Jun 2015 #201

I figured it was either her of Keith Ellison. Both very good reps. jwirr Jun 2015 #238

Yes, they are, absolutely! MineralMan Jun 2015 #240

Some do. hifiguy Jun 2015 #216

Yes. They're both very accessible and willing to listen. MineralMan Jun 2015 #242

One thing is great about living in the Twin Cities. hifiguy Jun 2015 #254

I only moved to MN in 2004. MineralMan Jun 2015 #259

That is surprising. hifiguy Jun 2015 #266

Hmm...I was the same in CA. MineralMan Jun 2015 #291

A Minnesotan-born hifiguy Jun 2015 #293

Heh WilliamPitt Jun 2015 #24

And while I am at it... 99Forever Jun 2015 #26

While you're at what? MineralMan Jun 2015 #50

Calling bought and paid for corporate tools... 99Forever Jun 2015 #55

If our MN senators are bought it is by our unions. Notice I said OUR. jwirr Jun 2015 #125

I'm from Minnesota MineralMan Jun 2015 #221

Did it matter? 99Forever Jun 2015 #241

Matters to me. MineralMan Jun 2015 #244

Treason? 99Forever Jun 2015 #390

I usually agree with you, 99, but not here. hifiguy Jun 2015 #246

Did either Klobachar or Franken put a hold on the TPA vote? 99Forever Jun 2015 #389

Will it? Do you believe a few hundred or a few thousand contacts out of a population of merrily Jun 2015 #57

I can tell you this much: Posting on DU has less chance of influencing MineralMan Jun 2015 #62

That is not an answer to the question I asked. merrily Jun 2015 #66

See, I can't answer your question. MineralMan Jun 2015 #71

You could have answered it had you chosen to. My question was about what YOU believe. Never mind. merrily Jun 2015 #75

Yes, I believe they listen to me. I don't believe that mine is the only voice MineralMan Jun 2015 #80

I communicate as well, but I don't think it does a thing. Warren is one of my Senators. I even merrily Jun 2015 #93

I think that getting the right people elected is the key. MineralMan Jun 2015 #99

Well, I do that, too. The Massachusetts delegation is not shabby. merrily Jun 2015 #104

I'll say this, in closing: MineralMan Jun 2015 #117

Markey and Warren are not as accessible as you might think. merrily Jun 2015 #197

Well, with my legislators, I rarely want them to change their minds MineralMan Jun 2015 #199

The same with me, for the most part. But, I've been trying to make a very different point merrily Jun 2015 #203

Are you from MN? That is where both MM and I are from. From my experience with my elected jwirr Jun 2015 #127

Right about what? He's said he doesn't know if calls and emails change votes. merrily Jun 2015 #189

Well you might be right but the last time I called the worker who answered the phone listened and jwirr Jun 2015 #236

GTFO... Adrahil Jun 2015 #79

I've never found anger to be of much use in MineralMan Jun 2015 #83

Yeah, but you can't be a DU celebrity that way! Adrahil Jun 2015 #85

Yabbut, being a DU celebrity isn't really a goal of mine. MineralMan Jun 2015 #90

The part about the corporate tribunals lark Jun 2015 #98

What and ruin a good speculative frenzy? +1. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #159

if what has already been shown of TPP courtesy of wikileaks isn't enough magical thyme Jun 2015 #209

Will I? No, I won't. MineralMan Jun 2015 #226

well here's a part to take a look at right now... magical thyme Jun 2015 #251

I've already looked at everything that is available, thanks. MineralMan Jun 2015 #255

My two Senators and my rep are all Democrats and they gave me bullshit rhetoric. rhett o rick Jun 2015 #449

Oh, Brother! ProfessorGAC Jun 2015 #7

Almost reptilian... kentuck Jun 2015 #195

The Purity Police are at it again....."we make the laws AND we enforce them" is the motto, I believe Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #10

It is a bit easier to be serene. hifiguy Jun 2015 #261

You go with that...I love a calm man, angry men are a dime a dozen. Calmness has driven the GOP mad. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #472

No, but I'm starting to think your "I was really upset" excuse is total bullshit. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #11

You're starting to think. WilliamPitt Jun 2015 #14

Preferably not about agony and torture fantasies. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #23

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #28

Oops. Pitt posted an ugly image MineralMan Jun 2015 #207

You seem happy. BeanMusical Jun 2015 #229

I'm neither happy nor unhappy. MineralMan Jun 2015 #230

No, you dislike that poster and it's extremely obvious. BeanMusical Jun 2015 #235

I dislike name-calling posts about President Obama. MineralMan Jun 2015 #239

No, it's obviously personal and was happening before the car salesman post last year. BeanMusical Jun 2015 #253

Lot of people have careers selling used cars. Ever bought a car from a used car salesman? Autumn Jun 2015 #340

I agree Mnpaul Jun 2015 #379

To be fair, I think that was a bad hide. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #260

Actually, it's a very offensive photo, IMO. MineralMan Jun 2015 #263

It's Photoshopped, and it's not even well made. BeanMusical Jun 2015 #342

I agree with you... Adsos Letter Jun 2015 #385

That was a bullshit hide. /nt Marr Jun 2015 #275

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jun 2015 #280

That was a bullshit post. MineralMan Jun 2015 #288

Oh, brother. Marr Jun 2015 #299

Your dislike of the poster is showing. 840high Jun 2015 #428

He should have gotten two. pintobean Jun 2015 #297

Such a terrible thing to do.. what was he thinking?!!! Cha Jun 2015 #484

That shouldn't be funny... but it is. LanternWaste Jun 2015 #25

Because anyone who dares to disagree with you... Adrahil Jun 2015 #81

Poor Pitt pintobean Jun 2015 #149

Ad hom, typical response of someone with a weak position or someone who full of shit uponit7771 Jun 2015 #393

Call the president this is.....i wont say what it is, but it is randys1 Jun 2015 #13

The funniest part of this post alcibiades_mystery Jun 2015 #16

"Next up, Keystone, and his legacy will be secured" is right up there on the hilarity scale....maybe Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #22

Let's see how fucking funny it is when that passes shall we? truebrit71 Jun 2015 #109

A few more EIRs should get us all the way to 2017 and it still won't be passed Hekate Jun 2015 #258

Well yeah, there is that Hekate Jun 2015 #142

Obama the Republican strikes again. Broward Jun 2015 #17

Yeah, Republicans fuckin' LOVE this guy.... Adrahil Jun 2015 #151

Best Republican President ever. Broward Jun 2015 #234

Thank you for not saying "piece of shit" this time (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #20

Don't roll over. Keep calling. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #21

I called my DINO Senator this morning dreamnightwind Jun 2015 #311

Didn't that used car salesman save DUers lives? JaneyVee Jun 2015 #27

Before selling them to the Pacific Rim WilliamPitt Jun 2015 #29

Is that where NYC SKP went? JaneyVee Jun 2015 #33

We'll never know. merrily Jun 2015 #97

Could be. The Pacific Rim is apparently teeming with unwashed hordes yearning to steal anything American. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #106

Does your president work for you or for the countries of the Pacific rim? Last I checked they Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #160

So yes...thanks randys1 Jun 2015 #155

Actually, no. The people like me whose annuals went up by $8000/year did that Doctor_J Jun 2015 #39

Someone should inform NYC SKP then, because... JaneyVee Jun 2015 #41

We've had several posts like that here; thanks for bringing up NYC_SKP's experience. nt Hekate Jun 2015 #154

I know. He never thanked me. And if Candidate Public Option had actually insisted on Doctor_J Jun 2015 #245

It expanded single payer. JaneyVee Jun 2015 #268

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #270

well actually passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #381

Ya know the fact Alittleliberal Jun 2015 #252

Truly lark Jun 2015 #110

And private insurers. n/t Orsino Jun 2015 #63

I would not have to say treestar Jun 2015 #248

flame bait... attention seeking post.. boston bean Jun 2015 #31

After the church shooting? WilliamPitt Jun 2015 #34

oh you know very well what that comment intimated to people last time boston bean Jun 2015 #45

"Not even a week after the church shooting..." frylock Jun 2015 #111

Really? tkmorris Jun 2015 #123

+1,000,000 nt Andy823 Jun 2015 #167

You should read the story about the boy who cried wolf once too often. nm rhett o rick Jun 2015 #451

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jun 2015 #32

Heh WilliamPitt Jun 2015 #36

No yelling from me Will. It's not the first time Autumn Jun 2015 #37

Bill Moyers, whom I respect very much, has done about an article a month, first merrily Jun 2015 #40

Know what`s crazy? democrank Jun 2015 #42

Democrats also support TPP. It's the Democratic Party Platform Freddie Stubbs Jun 2015 #52

That was cute, wasn't it? No one knew what the hell it was, yet it was part of the platform. merrily Jun 2015 #102

Do you really believe that the AFL-CIO was ignorant of what the TPP was? Freddie Stubbs Jun 2015 #138

? My post was about my vote. But yes, I believe that was a possiblity, given what members of merrily Jun 2015 #144

If the top brass at the AFL-CIO didn't know what the language in trade plank of the Freddie Stubbs Jun 2015 #148

The language in the plank did not detail what the TPP said and, again, what was the union to do? merrily Jun 2015 #153

At least now they can back Bernie. Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #168

Let's see if they do. Some unions have been backing some Republicans. merrily Jun 2015 #185

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #43

up front? G_j Jun 2015 #47

So when was he against the TPP? That's my point. randome Jun 2015 #51

as up front as the used car salesman who tells you G_j Jun 2015 #56

Thank you, randome.. that was such a bad hide.. you only told the truth and they can't handle it. Cha Jun 2015 #408

He knows he was wrong about what he posted last time Renew Deal Jun 2015 #54

I know, that was about the extent of any 'yelling' I'm going to do. randome Jun 2015 #65

Precisely. Cha Jun 2015 #410

I dont think there is a hyphen in the phrase GusBob Jun 2015 #53

Even a salesman has to show you the goods n2doc Jun 2015 #58

It's still a stupid analogy. The TPP is more akin to a car being built in the factory. randome Jun 2015 #68

You get to see under the hood years after you buy it n2doc Jun 2015 #72

That is bullshit. The negotiating steps are secret, not the treaty itself. randome Jun 2015 #76

you might try to educate yourself n2doc Jun 2015 #94

So we should never give Congress anything more complicated than a paragraph or two? randome Jun 2015 #116

Wouldn't secret treaty enforcement be part of the secret court function? Fumesucker Jun 2015 #152

Yes. they have to lift the hood and show us what's under it. Cleita Jun 2015 #119

That Documentary "Lifting the Veil" Early On "Clued Me In"...what has followed hasn't been a comfort KoKo Jun 2015 #396

Thanks KoKo for the reminder. eom Cleita Jun 2015 #397

I believed you marym625 Jun 2015 #59

No, but I think you are... Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2015 #60

The list is getting long, isn't it? Some people don't learn from bad experiences. randome Jun 2015 #73

When you're wrong and called out, Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2015 #77

You beat me to it Andy823 Jun 2015 #124

And the more recent JTFrog Jun 2015 #165

I don't either... Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2015 #171

Of course not. He's been overall a good president. DanTex Jun 2015 #61

Obama has been a great Pres and is loved by many.. I couldn't care less about the "disappointed" on Cha Jun 2015 #411

Obama has been a huge disappointment. City Lights Jun 2015 #64

For sure, we'd have been so much better off with McCain/Palin redstateblues Jun 2015 #82

Oh boy, better than McCain and Palin Mnpaul Jun 2015 #383

+1 nt snappyturtle Jun 2015 #401

You mean like every politician? Oneironaut Jun 2015 #67

Um...Bernie has done nothing by OPPOSE the TPP. Maedhros Jun 2015 #328

But holds some 2A water!? Yeah, that'll play well in South Side KC uponit7771 Jun 2015 #394

Change on the outside... FlyByNight Jun 2015 #70

Personally I think he makes sandwiches at Subway. Shit sandwiches. n/t cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #74

Of course you do. Anything to avoid acknowledging his legitimacy geek tragedy Jun 2015 #128

What a STUPID notion. He won two uncontested elections. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #156

You do have an emotional investment in him, it's just a negative one. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #162

Sometimes I wonder who they hate more? JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #174

Hating Bush didn't allow them to feel like Extra Special Premium Super Progressives. nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #175

Yeah - there's that . . . n/t JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #177

Spot on Hekate Jun 2015 #179

geek tragedy is killing it n/t JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #217

I still can't believe they were voting for something they couldn't even study in full. C Moon Jun 2015 #84

They're not voting on anything until the treaty is put in front of them. randome Jun 2015 #88

Okay. Thanks. Now I understand. C Moon Jun 2015 #95

And then they have, what, 90 days to vote on it? randome Jun 2015 #105

They who? The TeaPubliKlans? Oh ye of too much faith. TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #391

Grrrrrrrrr lark Jun 2015 #86

No, not a used car salesman. lark Jun 2015 #89

at least that's not offensive to people who sell used cars... Phentex Jun 2015 #103

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #92

Perhaps if he stopped insulting people mythology Jun 2015 #133

The George Carlin/George Clooney/Alec Baldwin/Chris Brown School Of Journalism. randome Jun 2015 #140

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jun 2015 #250

An embarrassing number of people rec'd his first pos thread too. JTFrog Jun 2015 #271

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It is simply delish the irony of that one and their insults to the OP. Rex Jun 2015 #283

Tacky Bobbie Jo Jun 2015 #321

Too many people lancer78 Jun 2015 #96

The U.S.A. is an old clunker of a used car, so why the hell not? hunter Jun 2015 #101

Yes, and the only protection the workers will get is TAA a program that has not been all that jwirr Jun 2015 #108

Big time... truebrit71 Jun 2015 #114

It's a lemon, this time, for sure. eom JEB Jun 2015 #120

This message was self-deleted by its author Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #126

Nope Hekate Jun 2015 #139

Wow, he's no longer a piece of shit sharp_stick Jun 2015 #141

That statement was never retracted nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #176

Oh I know sharp_stick Jun 2015 #191

well, if it accurately reflects their feelings, why retract it? geek tragedy Jun 2015 #196

No. madamesilverspurs Jun 2015 #145

This thread is fucking ridiculous YoungDemCA Jun 2015 #150

The sheer entertainment value lies in the number of people who are flat-out disagreeing with Will... Hekate Jun 2015 #181

Nope - I'm not a spoiled brat who didn't get her pony - win some lose some n/t JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #161

Spoiled brat is being too kind, given Obama's TWO HUNDRED AND NINETY ONE ACCOMPLISHMENTS randys1 Jun 2015 #170

Now I'm not saying anyone else is being a spoiled brat JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #173

Shame about the fourth amendment though, eh? truebrit71 Jun 2015 #210

wouldn't it be just too sad if G_j Jun 2015 #200

You win some, you lose some n/t JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #215

And our food sources Duppers Jun 2015 #310

"Spoiled brat?" "Pony?" Maedhros Jun 2015 #331

Not that stupid JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #346

All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. [n/t] Maedhros Jun 2015 #350

In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends. JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #356

You're just not worth the effort. Maedhros Jun 2015 #357

Thank heavens JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #366

I find you worth the effort. truedelphi Jun 2015 #454

What a pile of garbage. Action_Patrol Jun 2015 #163

K & R Omaha Steve Jun 2015 #164

No, I still do not. zappaman Jun 2015 #172

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #178

Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #180

Turn out the lights... kentuck Jun 2015 #182

Several weeks ago, I called Obama a "Hawaian car salesman" and then was briefly banned by DU. DrBulldog Jun 2015 #184

Who banned you?... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #219

Even when what he's doing is starkly un-Democratic? [n/t] Maedhros Jun 2015 #334

At least spell it right when you are repeating what got you in trouble Hekate Jun 2015 #377

Everything is peachy until it's your ox that gets gored, isn't it? Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #186

Mr. Pitt: It's obvious that your calling our President names MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #187

Well, spreading falsehoods like geek tragedy Jun 2015 #198

"Record number of homeless children enrolled in US public schools (+video)" MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #285

"homeless" in that study means moving in with relatives and staying in hotels geek tragedy Jun 2015 #296

When the insults start... MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #319

In other words, you have no factual rebuttal. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #332

Insults are the mark of a low person MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #352

Funny. Points for unintentional irony. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #359

Yay, Third Way Manny! It's good that you've got your mind right. He IS the best prez in the history kath Jun 2015 #220

I bet our President never threatened to beat a homeless woman. n/t JTFrog Jun 2015 #326

I'll bet Will Pitt never tried to extend the Iraq War MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #345

What, no mention of death panels? JTFrog Jun 2015 #355

Are you accusing me of posting BS? MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #358

You've made your own reputation here. JTFrog Jun 2015 #360

You tried to equate a lie with verified truths MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #362

You don't need my help with that. n/t JTFrog Jun 2015 #365

No, you lied when you said that Obama tried to "help Wall Street at every turn." geek tragedy Jun 2015 #370

You got busted posting lies in your initial post. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #364

You rebutted something I didn't state in my post. MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #368

You blatantly lied when you wrote this: geek tragedy Jun 2015 #374

He's everything we want him to be! Maedhros Jun 2015 #336

How very sensible of you! ibegurpard Jun 2015 #445

Ancient Alien Theorist? Sheepshank Jun 2015 #194

It is such a great trade bill that they have to hide it so the Angry Dragon Jun 2015 #202

Yes! Yes! That's it!!! Along with all of his other seventy billion accomplishments!!! truebrit71 Jun 2015 #218

All we need is to clap louder Mnpaul Jun 2015 #384

We were had. Royally had. hifiguy Jun 2015 #205

Yup. truebrit71 Jun 2015 #222

"Nothing central in foreign policy has changed." geek tragedy Jun 2015 #339

I should have said "little" in foreign policy has changed. hifiguy Jun 2015 #347

Iran agreement doesn't need to be ratified. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #351

No. panader0 Jun 2015 #212

Thanks for that observation Hekate Jun 2015 #382

.. kentuck Jun 2015 #213

I would far rather have him sell me a used car. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #224

K and R. And kath Jun 2015 #225

Amazing what loops and twirls some will do truebluegreen Jun 2015 #231

I suspect that 90% of them would've supported the Iraq War if it was Obama doing the bidding. Broward Jun 2015 #249

Oh, absolutely. kath Jun 2015 #267

I'm sure you are right. truebluegreen Jun 2015 #323

They supported blasting Libya into the stone age, leaving a chaotic nightmare in the aftermath, Maedhros Jun 2015 #338

They still cheer away on that one and are Ready for More. TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #402

Not quite so fearful after this DU discussion Android3.14 Jun 2015 #247

I bought the car twice. abakan Jun 2015 #256

We didn't have a choice the second time BuelahWitch Jun 2015 #307

I Really Wonder colsohlibgal Jun 2015 #264

Used-car salesman? BeanMusical Jun 2015 #265

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Interesting to see that that so many criticizing you here, Will, hifiguy Jun 2015 #276

Pitt has his Fanboys. Rex Jun 2015 #284

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Sub-cults Underground. Rex Jun 2015 #289

Always have been an outlier. hifiguy Jun 2015 #294

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Yep. Same graduating class as Michelle Obama. hifiguy Jun 2015 #298

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One of my two brushes with future fame. hifiguy Jun 2015 #301

Actually, I am probably one of Will's "fanboys." hifiguy Jun 2015 #287

Hmm, I guess I should have said his anti-fanboys and fanboys Rex Jun 2015 #290

Well, yeah, if one agrees with the hate, then the hate seems rational. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #305

You are really going here again? passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #292

No I do not think that DeeDeeNY Jun 2015 #302

You've got that backward. Maedhros Jun 2015 #349

A very bad one. n/t PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #304

His turbo tax was probably hacked Egnever Jun 2015 #309

I think you orignally referred to the POTUS as a PIECE OF SHIT used car salesman itsrobert Jun 2015 #312

Shame on Obama for screwing over the American people. Broward Jun 2015 #316

he doesn't care what con's call him stonecutter357 Jun 2015 #322

YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND CHESS, WILLIAM Skittles Jun 2015 #329

Will never really loved him1!!1!! QC Jun 2015 #330

I KNOW! Skittles Jun 2015 #333

You can't deny that it's true. JackBeck Jun 2015 #373

+ yeah, that's the ticket, lol Electric Monk Jun 2015 #388

Next thing you know, a Democrat will propose that every citizen alive nationalize the fed Jun 2015 #335

He won't sign without TAA. joshcryer Jun 2015 #341

He's not. DCBob Jun 2015 #348

You can always just complain about his policies without insulting him you know. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #354

No, the president is not a used car salesman CreekDog Jun 2015 #369

Nothing like a democrat chev52 Jun 2015 #372

Wow, Will.....my thread about my sight got to you? msanthrope Jun 2015 #376

**** Hekate Jun 2015 #387

Not even close ... seveneyes Jun 2015 #380

Ah yes. More subtle racism from the left. Drunken Irishman Jun 2015 #386

Nah....Will is just pointing out that Obama isn't what we thought we were voting for in his latest KoKo Jun 2015 #395

"Promise and Cave" That pretty much sums up his legacy. BeanMusical Jun 2015 #406

He's using GOP right-wing racist language... Drunken Irishman Jun 2015 #437

Oh is used-car salesman a racist connotation? ibegurpard Jun 2015 #443

You're going to need to...you know...explain what you're talking about. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2015 #412

Cool story, brah. How is calling someone a used car salesman racist? TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #416

LOL are you kidding me? Drunken Irishman Jun 2015 #435

Or it just might be an old and well worn thing people say about politicians TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #444

Your username makes that statement seem strange. Rex Jun 2015 #420

Rec for the subthread in which a TPP-backer gets his ass handed to him. Scuba Jun 2015 #399

And Bravo for the subthread in which Bobbie Jo Jun 2015 #409

car salesmen are justifying to make a living elehhhhna Jun 2015 #400

Yeah, but where are you going to go? Aerows Jun 2015 #403

His legacy, not what he said but what he sold, us . orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #407

"Obama's approval rating among liberal democrats rises to 86%" Cha Jun 2015 #418

The Gallup Poll! sheshe2 Jun 2015 #482

Yeah, DU is a little microcosm of seething Cha Jun 2015 #483

I still don't think so.... Spazito Jun 2015 #419

I expect a mea cupa thread in a few weeks. Rex Jun 2015 #421

We didn't get a genuine mea culpa thread after the first time, imo... Spazito Jun 2015 #423

This one Rex Jun 2015 #425

I never thought differently. LWolf Jun 2015 #422

I see the same shills are here to explain why us taxpayers should be happy to give away our jobs GoneFishin Jun 2015 #427

....x10 840high Jun 2015 #429

I'm starting to almost find it complimentary. raouldukelives Jun 2015 #439

He's been selling us a shitty bill of goods ibegurpard Jun 2015 #442

The ones who don't see don't want to see LittleBlue Jun 2015 #448

No. Not in the least. lovemydog Jun 2015 #452

I used to like your posts here and elsewhere! akbacchus_BC Jun 2015 #456

While I am disappointed in the TPA vote it is a done deal now davidpdx Jun 2015 #458

This is mild compared to what some others say nationalize the fed Jun 2015 #462

It maybe true, but as far as we know Mr. Lendman is not on DU and Mr. Pitt is davidpdx Jun 2015 #463

I'd rather own it than a share of the corporate defeat of democracy. raouldukelives Jun 2015 #470

+1000~ sheshe2 Jun 2015 #480

Briliant post, davidpdx! Thank you so much! Cha Jun 2015 #481

Would you consider deleting your OP? nt boston bean Jun 2015 #464

No, I don't... Blue_Tires Jun 2015 #466

No. mountain grammy Jun 2015 #468

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If Bernie was POTUS, deadly global socio-economic viruses like the TPA would be eradicated. Zorra Jun 2015 #478

K & R Owl Jun 2015 #479